Tim W Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 As Real Madrid are not playing ball, do we have a plan B and if so, who Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oblivion Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 As Real Madrid are not playing ball, do we have a plan B and if so, who Soccernet says its Kaka. Which, if true, is one HELL of a back-up plan. However, as usual, the question (which will most likely define our season) is: How will ALL our midfielders play together? I'm aware that Kaka and Deco are deceptively fast and possess skills allowing them to slot anywhere across the middle, but what if Scolari is going to use him as a striker? Milan do that on occasion (their forwards are rubbish anyway)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 (edited) now it looks like robinho was targeted as a second striker, we should be making tempting offers for aguero. (and making a cheeky loan offer for eidur, followed by the same for saviola). Edited August 20, 2008 by gullit4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Saviola should definitely be worth considering, but again, i doubt Madrid will want to play ball. Aguero is obviously a terrific player. It would take an audacious bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Some guy from Sporting Lisbon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Saviola should definitely be worth considering, but again, i doubt Madrid will want to play ball. Aguero is obviously a terrific player. It would take an audacious bid. cant see anyone getting aguero till next year at the earliest. hes athleticos jewel and they`re in europe for the first time in ages. if he does go, wether this year or next hes gonna cost a lot of money. but i would love to see him here. he just looks like a young franco zola and of course the obligitory "next maradonna" tag . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 As Real Madrid are not playing ball, do we have a plan B and if so, who I think the answer is no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbzy Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I think the answer is no! The whole Robinho saga looks like a trademark Kenyon mess up. He was arrogant enough to think he could force Madrid's hand and didn't bank on Citeh coming in at the last minute. After the disaster with Sheva though I'm not totally distraught at missing out another record breaking transfer. Robinho may end up working out at Citeh and I would welcome another outsider emerging as top 4 contenders. If anything good comes out of this it would hopefully be that we finally get rid of slimeball Kenyon (isn't he a United fan anyway?). As far as plan B is concerned the answer is simple. There wasn't one as Big Phil did not request any other players. A few weeks ago he was quoted as saying that he was interested in Robinho but didn't need any more players and would be happy with what we had even if we didn't get our man. Big Phil also appears to have some faith in the younger players so I'm hopeful that he will give the likes of Di Santo, Sinclair, and Kakuta a chance before he requests more players. Lets not forget that we have big players gradually coming back from injuries so the team will only get stronger. Drogs is now back having played his first reserve match. Ballack, Essien and Mikel will hopefully be back to full fitness by our next game too. I'm comfortable with our current squad and hope that less will prove to be more in terms of new signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethicalstrategy Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 You say he didn't bank on City coming in at the last minute. Well even his worst enemy would forgive him not expecting that! You also criticise him for not having a plan B but go on to say that Scolari didn't want anyone else except Robinho. If that's true then he didn't need a plan B. Kenyon's failing was in not getting the man his manager wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forbzy Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I'm not criticising Kenyon for having no Plan B. As I said before there was no plan B as Big Phil didn't have any players on his list. However I do think Kenyon made a mess of this deal. Before City came in he was playing cat and mouse with Calderon and continually upping our offer. No wonder Calderon kept on asking for more. Then we had the whole farce of printing the shirts before the deal was concluded. At that point I doubt Calderon would have sold to us at any price. If Citeh had not come in do you think he would have sold to us for the same price? I doubt it. There has been some dicsussion over why we continue to be pushed around in the transfer market by the big names of Europe and I think we have a case to answer. We need to be tougher even if it means failing to sign players from time to time. Rather than these summer long games of increasing the price until we get our man how about walking away from the table earlier before the price gets out of control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 As Real Madrid are not playing ball, do we have a plan B and if so, who apparently we dont have a plan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 I wouldve been very happy with Saviola in lieu of Robinho. And I bet Madrid wouldve let us have him for nothing. Its this lack of a Plan B that irks me. Its no wonder we get robbed by everyone with transfers. Aulas, Moratti and that c*nt from Milan mustve been giggling before bed last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomW Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Even stoke had a plan B, had 2 teams working at once to make sure they got there player and we had Kenyon. Lucky us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Even stoke had a plan B, had 2 teams working at once to make sure they got there player and we had Kenyon. Lucky us for the last f**king time, kenyon didnt have a lpan b because scolari only wanted robinho. or did you want kenyon to sign someone scolari didnt want, because that didnt work out too well last time it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHedges Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 (edited) for the last f**king time, kenyon didnt have a lpan b because scolari only wanted robinho. or did you want kenyon to sign someone scolari didnt want, because that didnt work out too well last time it happened. I have a hard time believing that Scolari "only wanted Robinho." Yes...he may have REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted Robinho, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have had other options in mind, ESPECIALLY considering we sold players of that similar position. If Scolari told Kenyon that he only wanted Robinho, and that since he wanted Robinho he would want to sell Sheva and SWP...Kenyon should have done one of two things: 1) Sold SWP and Sheva after we get Robinho 2) If we need to sell SWP and Sheva first...make Scolari tell you who he wants 2nd, 3rd, etc. and if he says nobody since he is getting Robinho, then you damn well better get Robinho and/or someone of that position even if Scolari doesn't personally request them. Have the best interest of the team at heart. Edited September 3, 2008 by MHedges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chelsea Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 it doesnt matter any more robinho went man city we have to work with the squad we've got now until january i feel confident the squad can do a good job and will still be in contention on 4 fronts when the transfer windows in january then if th squad needs boosting with a few players i'm sure it will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 I have a hard time believing that Scolari "only wanted Robinho." Yes...he may have REALLY REALLY REALLY wanted Robinho, but that doesn't mean he shouldn't have had other options in mind, ESPECIALLY considering we sold players of that similar position. If Scolari told Kenyon that he only wanted Robinho, and that since he wanted Robinho he would want to sell Sheva and SWP...Kenyon should have done one of two things: 1) Sold SWP and Sheva after we get Robinho 2) If we need to sell SWP and Sheva first...make Scolari tell you who he wants 2nd, 3rd, etc. and if he says nobody since he is getting Robinho, then you damn well better get Robinho and/or someone of that position even if Scolari doesn't personally request them. Have the best interest of the team at heart. in that case, if he only wanted robinho then its scolari at fault, not kenyon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 in that case, if he only wanted robinho then its scolari at fault, not kenyon. Scolari wasn't to know we'd leave it til the last minute then get out bid by a minnow - he thought he was at a big club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Scolari wasn't to know we'd leave it til the last minute then get out bid by a minnow - he thought he was at a big club. but he should have had a plan b just in case..... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 but he should have had a plan b just in case..... ;) He should have done and we should have been persuing it weeks ago after Robinho hadn't signed, there's little you can do with a couple of hours left in the transfer window weither you have another player targeted as a runner-up or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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