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We had players in that England squad. Weird.

Absolute bo**ocks, these players seem to manage it when playing for some of the best teams in Europe, all the team on the weekend play for teams that get to the final few in the CL, theres nothing wrong with their mentality. What we saw was Tuchel do what he has done with his teams for years, score and shut up shop, get deeper and more compact, pull wide attackers back and in. It worked against Mexico and Norway, just, the difference is Argentina are better and if you just concede all the pitch and ball to a team like them then they will score. Tuchel said he was brought in to "fix" all that, and yet didnt, he was as bad if not worse than all our other coaches. Not even surprised hes blaming players again, its his go to when things fail.

A loss? His book value is between 60m and 70m.

Barco probably didn't realise that Jude speaks Spanish and over heard what he was saying.

100%. Tuchel was brought in to get us over the line. If we were happy with cowardice and a Semi final we should have just kept Southgate. What Tuchel did with the reputation that follows him is unforgiveable. For me there's no way back from this, he needs to walk or be sacked.

That's more accurate.

Tuchel made a point of ciriticising Southgate when he got the job, saying how he knows what were missing and how to get us playing to win. He then did everything Southgate used to do multiplied by 10, I would love to see Southgate come out and just say "Hey Tuchel, f**k you"....

Tuchel believes its the DNA of English players and they should share the blame. from sky news.. It wasn't his formation that was wrong in Atlanta, the problem instead is a weakness in the English football DNA which means the players struggle to keep possession when under pressure. "In this moment my feeling was no structure in the world could have helped us," Tuchel says, "because actually we were too passive and we were not physical enough, we didn't stop runners arriving in our box and the deliveries were wrong too. "I haven't seen the data yet, but I think just right after the goal the momentum swings completely and ball possession drops dramatically. "We couldn't find any duels anymore, that's why we dropped deeper and deeper, it was never the plan, but it happened. "(We) couldn't stop the runners from second line, the midfielders, through our gaps, and the deliveries were on the highest level. You need to get back on the ball, otherwise you cannot break the pressure and you cannot get the momentum back. "I think ball possession plays then a crucial role, it's maybe not in our DNA like it is in our Spanish DNA or in our Argentinian-Brazilian DNA, to take the ball and control the game with the ball."

Your hours poring over the Moldovan league over a pint and a Marlboro had to pay off.

Yes.

Didn't Palmer do a similar thing to the Spanish players when England won the Euro U21? After he scored he went in front of the Spanish bench to celebrate, if I recall correctly.

Looks like Dragojevic will get over the line this week, definitely an intriguing signing with the potential there. Then it’s whether we still chase that Hjerto-Dahl with the fee seeming to continue to rise. Probably ends any hope of getting Mikey Moore back for a second season unfortunately though.

X (formerly Twitter)UtdArena (@UtdArena) on XLook at what England did straight after scoring:BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS TUCHEL

The players have all come out and said they wanted to keep playing, Tuchel got them to drop and sit deep. He’s done it with teams his entire career.

Think we’re all still w**king over that 2021 Reece James with him and Chilwell causing absolute havoc as wing backs. This season had me questioning and the World Cup has just backed it up unfortunately, his body cannot do it anymore. He’s lost a yard of pace, his confidence appears shot and he’s just not the same player. The Reece James of old would’ve been bombing up and down that touchline, this one seems to look sideways/backwards for the easy pass as his first option. As has been said before, he’s probably the best Cobham has ever produced, he’s just absolutely riddled and can’t play a full intensity season anymore. Maybe a move into midfield is the answer? But even then he just appears so much slower than a Caicedo. We’ll see, give him this season under a proper manager but if it’s a game every other week and slow in possession again then a move to a warmer climate and less demanding league might be on the table.

Not one to defend the SD’s but the sale of Cucu isn’t something we should be lamenting. He’s an OK LB, nothing special, over the course of a full PL season I think we’d all admit his errors and lack of positional awareness outweigh his Hollywood moments. He’s a YT Highlight player, not a serious footballer. We looked a lot better toward the end of the year with Hato at LB, whose trajectory is on the increase as opposed to Cucu who is already at his peak. The sale isn’t an issue. What is an issue is if we go and spend the same amount on an inferior player who isn’t PL proven (see Pep Chavvario)

Typical though,sadly!

Toldya

Whether he belongs in the midfield or at full back, where you’ll usually find him is on the treatment table.

He belongs in midfield. Just as Bayern did with Lahm then Kimmich, or Inter did with Zanetti.

So BlueCo to sell a European champion, World Cup finalist Spanish full back and replace him with a B rated unheard of Spanish full back that isn't even an international for roughly the same money. So BlueCo, can easily see this happening now. These are the deals they are good at, the ridiculous pull your pants down deals.

He’s had a really poor World Cup. I was very excited to watch England with Reece James and O Reilly as full backs, two very complete players. I thought it will be so fun to watch… Jamee played nothing like himself. I think based on the World Cup it’s time for England to start looking for a replacement.

Ginger people are always very weird. Imagine thinking, you’ve just reached the World Cup final. You’re absolutely buzzing. Instead of going to celebrate in front of the fans, or celebrating with your team mates, your very first thought was to be a c*nt and run to the England players. Says a lot about him really. A weird ginger c*nt. It won’t be long until he gets snapped in half in Premier league. Such a small and weak bitch.

It would be very funny if he can’t get a move. He’ll get dogs abuse every game and he completely deserves it. I mean, fair enough he scored a good goal. Should have left it at that. Doing that celebration, posting Oasis song with laughing picture, saying he has nothing against English people, his servants at home are English, he loves them… C*nt.

For the most part this is true though? Argentina and Spain always bring through groups of players that played at youth and Olympic level, and have being doing so since the 1980s. England have had a great run of producing talent but it has come at the cost of other, possibly better talents. Forget Musiala, England could have started Semenyo and Olise (both born in West London FFS) instead of Gordon and Madueke. France and Spain have rarely lost a starting-quality player to heritage countries - can only think of Laporte for France, and Hakimi for Spain.