Droy

Would get dogs abuse if he wasn't an academy lad.
Reputation of a top player but he isn't.

This is true. Essien was very rarely used as the DM, he was box to box.
I think every side we have had that won major titles have had a pure DM.
Makelele/Mikel for Mourinhos titles, Mikel for Ancelottis, Matic for Conte and Jorginho for Tuchel's. All four extremely good players as well but especially Mikel and Jorginho have mostly been extremely underrated
 

An Arsenal side that have won nothing at all should not be the measuring stick with all due respect. Go back five months and you'd be laughed out of the country if you claimed we should aspire to be like Arsenal. 
What Tuchel achieved or even what Lampard achieved in his first season should be the actual measuring stick. They both had to deal with difficult circumstances as well and delivered when it mattered. Both achieved Top 4 in their first seasons despite squads that were lacking and one achieved the biggest title of them all on top of it.
I would strongly disagree with anyone suggesting Potter should have a free shot for a whole year. Maybe you get that at clubs who's won nothing for 20 years like Arsenal or Brighton. Not here.
Because we know what we are and we are better than Arsenal despite Potter claiming we aren't anymore yesterday. 

An Arsenal side that have won nothing at all should not be the measuring stick with all due respect. Go back five months and you'd be laughed out of the country if you claimed we should aspire to be like Arsenal. 
What Tuchel achieved or even what Lampard achieved in his first season should be the actual measuring stick. They both had to deal with difficult circumstances as well and delivered when it mattered. Both achieved Top 4 in their first seasons despite squads that were lacking and one achieved the biggest title of them all on top of it.
I would strongly disagree with anyone suggesting Potter should have a free shot for a whole year. Maybe you get that at clubs who's won nothing for 20 years like Arsenal or Brighton. Not here.
Because we know what we are and we are better than Arsenal despite Potter claiming we aren't anymore yesterday. 

An Arsenal side that have won nothing at all should not be the measuring stick with all due respect. Go back five months and you'd be laughed out of the country if you claimed we should aspire to be like Arsenal. 
What Tuchel achieved or even what Lampard achieved in his first season should be the actual measuring stick. They both had to deal with difficult circumstances as well and delivered when it mattered. Both achieved Top 4 in their first seasons despite squads that were lacking and one achieved the biggest title of them all on top of it.
I would strongly disagree with anyone suggesting Potter should have a free shot for a whole year. Maybe you get that at clubs who's won nothing for 20 years like Arsenal or Brighton. Not here.
Because we know what we are and we are better than Arsenal despite Potter claiming we aren't anymore yesterday. 

At this point last season we were where they are right now. So if Arsenal are challenging right now, then we were for the first half of last season.
I am all for building for the future. But you better have the right man in charge then and I think many fear Potter isn't. Arteta may or may not succeed at Arsenal but he learned from the best in the business. Potter I would compare to Solskjaer who had three whole years at United and took them nowhere except backwards.

An Arsenal side that have won nothing at all should not be the measuring stick with all due respect. Go back five months and you'd be laughed out of the country if you claimed we should aspire to be like Arsenal. 
What Tuchel achieved or even what Lampard achieved in his first season should be the actual measuring stick. They both had to deal with difficult circumstances as well and delivered when it mattered. Both achieved Top 4 in their first seasons despite squads that were lacking and one achieved the biggest title of them all on top of it.
I would strongly disagree with anyone suggesting Potter should have a free shot for a whole year. Maybe you get that at clubs who's won nothing for 20 years like Arsenal or Brighton. Not here.
Because we know what we are and we are better than Arsenal despite Potter claiming we aren't anymore yesterday. 

Oh you got me there Sindre. 

Relax Droy, Sindre. At least we didn't lose 4-0 to them like we did in pre-season.
If you keep getting worked up like this you'll have to get another forum identity again.

He was not in charge of his first transfer window, Marina was. The second one maybe but then why did he never get a real chance to prove he can do it with the players he brought in?
He didn't even have all his signings available before the idiot from the states sacked him. The signings looked good as long as Tuchel was here. Potter is just a fraud that can't get anything out of anyone.

No he doesn't.
Backed and supported it's earned. Did Villas Boas deserve more backing? Did Scolari? 
Or did Nuno at Tottenham? They become a different side completely under Conte. We have seen that time and time at this club as well, if the manager isn't working out we make the change.
Which is why we are 2x European Champions incidentally. Would never had happened if we didn't make the managerial change.

We "huffed and puffed" so it was alright. And Arsenal are a top team and we aren't (basically what he implied).
f**king deer in highlights. And disrespecting the club as well even though he probably doesn't realize it. We were a far better side than Arsenal last year, it's your fault we f**king aren't now Graham.

Not creating enough? There are two teams on the pitch and Arsenal defend well and press well. That's what the top teams do and Arsenal at the moment are a top team. I don't like to say that but it's the reality.
Manager already on the excuse train.

Convinced he's lost the players already. Impressive feat is such a short time but that's how I felt looking at that.

I f**king am though!
It's a disgrace what we are seeing. For the last two months i think we have been as poor as we have ever been for the last 20 years at least. No passion, no energy and no nothing expect a manager who's keeping busy praising Arsenal and how they are such a great team. Being coached by someone who does that is pissing me off to no end. Just last week it was Brighton that was such a classy team when they trashed us.
 

We have also been a genuine disaster since he came in. No new manager at the club have ever looked this bad to start his tenure. And God knows we have had many managers who had to deal with lacking squad. Including the one we recently sacked.
We are usually a pretty patient fanbase but there is a smell of incompetence from Potter in my opinion. And I think many are sniffing that out. Been here two months and we had literally had one decent game in the league and we are now on one of those long winless streaks the man was known for at Brighton. He's now brought that over to this club. Worst part is that we play with no energy and the manager seem to be clueless to how he wants us to play. 
And that's whats worrying me the most. He quite simply looks way out of his depth.
Journos, pundits and supporters all bring up the fact that the players don't know what they are doing out there. And it's quite obvious that they don't and that's entirely down to the manager.

Silva and Jorginho the only players who's been any good for us.

Weren't you one of those who wanted Tuchel sacked because he should get more out of these players?

Weren't you one of those who wanted Tuchel sacked because he should get more out of these players?

Ok but that doesn't matter now does it? This isn't about Tuchel getting the sack or not.
It's about our current manager and he's filling no one with confidence. Including the players. Wolves and Villa have just gone and hired Loptegui and Emery, both are far superior managers to Potter with better CVs and better everything. Why is Potter here is my question?

Did we once in 20 months under Tuchel go four league games without a win? Did we even lose two in a row?
The last question I am not sure about but almost 100% we never went 4 in a row without a win. Everyone can see we are far f**king worse.
 

Weren't you one of those who wanted Tuchel sacked because he should get more out of these players?

Would have to disagree. Of course we had a lot of poor games in that period but we were good enough to comfortably get Top 4. Can anyone see that happening this season with Potter?
And we had some top games against for example Madrid at Bernabeu, Liverpool in the cup finals and trashed more than one mid table side even towards the end of last season with everything going on.

Did we once in 20 months under Tuchel go four league games without a win? Did we even lose two in a row?
The last question I am not sure about but almost 100% we never went 4 in a row without a win. Everyone can see we are far f**king worse.
 

Sterling.