Hi folks,

 

I'm a new one here and this is my first post. I have been reading a lot of discussions on Chelsea formations for next season and how we should incorporate Mata, Hazard, Oscar and De Bruyne in the same line-up, and decided to share my opinion on that. We still don't know whom we will get for the center/defensive midfield role as we need an upgrade to Mikel/Romeu and a striking upgrade to Torres/Ba. Nevertheless, given the players we have I came up with 2 alternative line-ups, one of which is the stronger one and the other is the weaker. I think the ideal formation for us is 4-3-3, not 4-2-3-1. Our strongest line-up is:

 

 

---------------------Lukaku-----------------------
Hazard-----------------------------------------Mata

------------Oscar----------De Bruyne--------------

---------------------Mikel----------------------------

Cole-------Luiz-----------Ivanovic---Azpilicueta--

----------------------Cech-----------------------------

 

I think this formation and line-up has a great potential to control the midfield. A lot of work is on the shoulders of Oscar and De Bruyne as they're the ones to take the ball from the defense and deliver to the final third. But I think both of them are capable of doing that and since both of them are only 21, they can only improve on their positions, especially the defensive side of their duties. If we can get an upgrade to Mikel in the holding role, there will be no more to ask for. I would prefer Asier Illarramendi as a replacement to Mikel.

 

 

The alternative/rotational line-up for next season is:

 

-------------------Torres/Ba------------------

Schürrle-------------------------------Moses

----------Lampard-------Ramires------------

--------------------Romeu-----------------------

Bertrand----Terry-------Cahill-----Wallace--

----------------Cech/Blackman-----------------

 

This is a pretty good line-up to have as your second choice. Since we'll have hell of a lot of games next season, we'll be able to keep happy the whole squad and keep fresh everyone. I am all for giving Wallace 1 year at the club before loaning him somewhere in England or continental Europe, if there is a need for that at all.

 

So what's your opinion on all this?

Edited June 16, 201313 yr by Football Manager

Hi Jose.  I would be only too happy to meet to discuss my ideas with you.  Shall we say nine o'clock tonight in a little bar I know in Knightsbridge?

Hi Jose.  I would be only too happy to meet to discuss my ideas with you.  Shall we say nine o'clock tonight in a little bar I know in Knightsbridge?

 

Hi Moi. It would be pleasure for me but unfortunately I am a bit busy right now. Maybe in the following months.

What it essentially comes down to, is that a 4-3-3 may benefit Oscar and Ramires more, but a 4-2-3-1 benefits Mata as he can stay in the #10 role.

What it essentially comes down to, is that a 4-3-3 may benefit Oscar and Ramires more, but a 4-2-3-1 benefits Mata as he can stay in the #10 role.

I think we should prioritize the team rather than individuals. Besides, Mata and Hazard can pop up anywhere in the final third. I don't think that we will miss Mata's skills in 4-3-3.

Edited June 16, 201313 yr by Football Manager

What it essentially comes down to, is that a 4-3-3 may benefit Oscar and Ramires more, but a 4-2-3-1 benefits Mata as he can stay in the #10 role.

 

4321 is another possibility.

Interchange players as much as you want with this formation, but a '4-1-3-1-1', although a little unorthodox, seems to fit everyone in.

 

-------------- Torres ---------

--------- Mata ----------------

 

Hazard -- Oscar -- Schurrle

 

------------ Luiz --------------

 

Cole -- Terry -- Ivan -- Azzi

----------- Cech -------------

 

I must point out that I am slightly insane.

Interchange players as much as you want with this formation, but a '4-1-3-1-1', although a little unorthodox, seems to fit everyone in.

 

-------------- Torres ---------

--------- Mata ----------------

 

Hazard -- Oscar -- Schurrle

 

------------ Luiz --------------

 

Cole -- Terry -- Ivan -- Azzi

----------- Cech -------------

 

I must point out that I am slightly insane.

 

This line-up seems too adventurous to me. The center-midfield with Oscar and Luiz is too light.

Edited June 16, 201313 yr by Football Manager

4-3-3 (When mata is not playing and we are going for counter attack. Brazilian midfield magic)

 

Azp---------Iva------Cahill----------Cole

 

-------------------Luiz----------------------

---------Oscar----------Ramires---------

 

Hazard------Lukaku--------Bruyne/Schurrle

 

 

4-2-3-1 ( Against 80% of the teams in PL who "park the buss")

 

Azp--------Cahill-------Iva---------Cole

 

----------Luiz--------Lampard-----------

 

Hazard---------Mata--------Schurrle/Bruyne/Oscar

 

------------------Lukaku-------------------

4-3-3 (When mata is not playing and we are going for counter attack. Brazilian midfield magic)

 

Azp---------Iva------Cahill----------Cole

 

-------------------Luiz----------------------

---------Oscar----------Ramires---------

 

Hazard------Lukaku--------Bruyne/Schurrle

 

 

4-2-3-1 ( Against 80% of the teams in PL who "park the buss")

 

Azp--------Cahill-------Iva---------Cole

 

----------Luiz--------Lampard-----------

 

Hazard---------Mata--------Schurrle/Bruyne/Oscar

 

------------------Lukaku-------------------

 

So Ramires is out of 80% of games and Mikel with Romeu are sold. Hmm..

We would get completely overrun in midfield with that formation.

 

While I prefer 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 is fine. 

So Ramires is out of 80% of games and Mikel with Romeu are sold. Hmm..

 

Mikel is Rotation at best. 

 

Ramires and Lampard can switch. 

How about 4321?

 

           Cech

 

Azpi   Luiz   Ivanovic   Cole

         

Ramires  Mikel   Oscar

 

     Mata   Hazard

 

          Lukaku

Edited June 16, 201313 yr by jack_super_class

How about 4321?

 

           Cech

 

Azpi   Luiz   Ivanovic   Cole

         

Ramires  Mikel   Oscar

 

     Mata   Hazard

 

          Lukaku

 

Ramires and Oscar as wingers. It might work but the center is weak, I think.

We would get completely overrun in midfield with that formation.

 

While I prefer 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 is fine. 

 

Why? Oscar and De Bruyne can both press and defend.

Ramires and Oscar as wingers. It might work but the center is weak, I think.

 

They wouldn't be wingers they would be in a narrow three in midfield. A system Carlo Ancelotti used quite alot here.

Why? Oscar and De Bruyne can both press and defend.

 

I was referring to the 4-1-3-1-1.

Can I do mine now? 

 

4-3-3 assuming we get matic and Van Ginkel. What good would this be without making transfers?

 

                Cech

 

Azpi  Chalobah  Terry  Cole

 

                  Matic

 

Van Ginkel

                            Oscar

 

Mata       Lukaku          Hazard

Edited June 17, 201313 yr by cfc88

Can I do mine now? 

 

4-3-3 assuming we get matic and Van Ginkel. What good would this be without making transfers?

 

                Cech

 

Azpi  Chalobah  Terry  Cole

 

                  Matic

 

Van Ginkel

                            Oscar

 

Mata       Lukaku          Hazard

 

Very unlikely to get both Van Ginkel and Matic.

Yeah lol. Well Mikel or another DM in that position and Ramires might be in place of Van Ginkel. I put Chalobah because I think it's important the club brings through a player, it doesn't necessarily have to be him but the more youngsters getting experience would serve well during FFP. Especially when you can't go buy as much players in the summer transfer window as previous years, or make an emergency buy in January.

People still selecting Mikel in their fantasy 11? 433 or 4231, we can do a lot better than starting with Mikel reguarly.

Is this thread for a playstation game?

Why would we change from 4231 which we implemented most of last season when our new manager played pretty much the same formation at Madrid.

Who knows if he'll change formations or not. At Inter he tried a couple of formations, 4-2-3-1 is flexible anyway and can turn into a 4-3-3 or a 4-2-4 when attacking

Edited June 17, 201313 yr by cfc88

So Ramires is out of 80% of games and Mikel with Romeu are sold. Hmm..

 

It's just my prefered starting lineup with the squad we have atm. Ramires can replace Lampard when he gets tired and it will probably be less then 80% games against teams playing not to loose. I hope Mikel will be sold and we bring in someone more versitile, while Romeu needs to go out on a loan.