His goals have dried up now that he has been figured out, same thing happened with Gervinho who looked like a world beater in Serie A but now is dreadful. 

His goals have dried up now that he has been figured out, same thing happened with Gervinho who looked like a world beater in Serie A but now is dreadful. 

 

Yeah, 2 goals and 3 assists I think Gervinho has this season. Considering he plays as part of a front three, that is a horrific statistic.

salah is a winger he doesn't have to score every match 

Yeah, 2 goals and 3 assists I think Gervinho has this season. Considering he plays as part of a front three, that is a horrific statistic.

what about willian stats ? same position as gervinho 4 goals and 4 assists in 41 appearances. 

Edited May 10, 201511 yr by ethan355

Yeah, 2 goals and 3 assists I think Gervinho has this season. Considering he plays as part of a front three, that is a horrific statistic.

What's sad is that Willian has 2 goals and 3 assists this season in the league. Talk about dreadful. 

All his goals look the same, loads of space that he wouldn't get with us.

Cheak out the Griezmann goals, tell. Me they are different??

what about willian stats ? same position as gervinho 4 goals and 4 assists in 41 appearances. 

 

What's sad is that Willian has 2 goals and 3 assists this season in the league. Talk about dreadful. 

 

Jesus Christ.

 

I have been very supportive of Willian over the last few weeks. He has put in a real shift but also showed explosiveness going forward.

 

Those stats are horrific though and cannot be defended.

Jesus Christ.

 

I have been very supportive of Willian over the last few weeks. He has put in a real shift but also showed explosiveness going forward.

 

Those stats are horrific though and cannot be defended.

 

To think Kalou had better stats coming off the bench. Hopefully, we do something about this. I'd say its unacceptable for a team trying to compete in several competitions with a player with such low output. Yes you can boast about defensive work and tracking back, but in the end, productivity is necessary.   

 

Compared to our Euro rivals, we're definitely lacking. 

salah is a winger he doesn't have to score every match 

His goals are the only reason why people are contemplating bringing him back, it's worth mentioning. 

I wouldn't want him back, tearing up Italy does nothing to convince me he would make it here

Cheak out the Griezmann goals, tell. Me they are different??

He has far more of a variety of goals -- notice how for Mo Salah his goalscoring form has dried up yet Griezmann has been very consistent all season for Atletico, and not just this season, but for RS last season too (and not a bad tally the season before that).

Griezmann has far more to his game than Salah as well. In addition, him playing for a team like Atletico would mean more teams would play a compact, more deeper defence and hence hehas that kind of experience to help unlock them -- it'd even more of an asset considering it's in the La Liga and you'd require a bit more technical ability to unlock them.

Edited May 10, 201511 yr by MANoWAR

He has far more of a variety of goals -- notice how for Mo Salah his goalscoring form has dried up yet Griezmann has been very consistent all season for Atletico, and not just this season, but for RS last season too (and not a bad tally the season before that).

Griezmann has far more to his game than Salah as well. In addition, him playing for a team like Atletico would mean more teams would play a compact, more deeper defence and hence hehas that kind of experience to help unlock them -- it'd even more of an asset considering it's in the La Liga and you'd require a bit more technical ability to unlock them.

 

 

I had a look at Griezmann's goals this season, the majority of them are breakaway goals. He has a couple of nice ones in the box but then so does Salah. You can tell me he has more to his game and that's fine but we shouldn't make an assesment on the quality of some ones goals when a guy we are looking at for 40 mill has exactly the same type of goals

It's true he does have a lot of similar breakaway goals, as JackSuperClass says, but with this one, he did have to twist past a few bodies for the goal (even though the initial pass was to him on the shoulder of the defender.)

There have been a few where he's played give-and-gos in the box. As for the goals drying up, he was hardly going to keep up the rate he started off with. It's also coincided with Fiorentina's poor run. Thrashed 3-0 by Sevilla, looks like no Champion's league next season unless they pull of a minor miracle.

I don't know about Salah. He's still a little careless for me. I think he's got better, though, with his general play.

Tottenham rumours floating around last few days. (Erikson, Kane in any possible deal please :)

I believe I saw an article where he's spoken about returning to Chelsea to see to see how things go over the summer. A change to the stories he was intent on a permanent move away.

I had a look at Griezmann's goals this season, the majority of them are breakaway goals. He has a couple of nice ones in the box but then so does Salah. You can tell me he has more to his game and that's fine but we shouldn't make an assesment on the quality of some ones goals when a guy we are looking at for 40 mill has exactly the same type of goals

Not my intention to be rude here, but there's nothing in this response that my original comment can't cover; I'll simply rephrase it (but add a few details on too).

his goalscoring record is much better than Salah and he's playing at a big club. Salah has scored goals and then been figured out rather quickly so his form has gone. Griezmann has started good goal scoring form at a mediocre team, improved in it, and now done superb in it this season at a top team. He hasn't been figured out suggesting that's he's not just some predictable player who gets a few goals at the start and performs well (similar to Gervinho or Townsend), but a consistent player that keeps on improving and getting many many goals. Quite a lot of Sanchez's goals have been where Sanchez is in the right place at the right time, rather than lots of individual goals of brilliance (not saying he doesn't get those), yet everyone here is saying they would love to have him in the team.

That, in combination with his many other assets like supreme technical ability (like Sanchez), is why he's worth 40m. Goals should be assessed because he's scored far more than Salah has. He probably would've got nothing in the LL.

Edited May 11, 201511 yr by MANoWAR

Just curious if someone can put up the goal & assist stat for the left vs right flank of Chelsea this season

 

Basically Hazard (minus his goal from penalties) + Apzi       vs       Willian + Ivanovic (minus his goal from set pieces)

 

We may see the number very close

 

My theory is that in order to have Ivanovic to bomb forward, Willian will have less chance to be in a good position to score / assist 

 

Jesus Christ.

 

I have been very supportive of Willian over the last few weeks. He has put in a real shift but also showed explosiveness going forward.

 

Those stats are horrific though and cannot be defended.

well he has just scored with his right foot waiting for moaning about the poor defending and the fact that parma has been relegated to serie B

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4mgw9B-2nA

he's got more Premier League medals than Steven Gerrard

He's always scoring the same type of goals though, Ethan355 - right foot, acres of space. In any case, it doesn't matter how many he scores, we know serie A is a mediocre-poor league where our own Colombian waste of space was a superstar.

Away with Salah. He has no future here... What kind of name is Salah anyway? And these Arab commentators, don't get me started on them...

(This is a wind-up! So don't smash anything!!!)

Edited May 19, 201511 yr by GhostOfDembaPast

He's always scoring the same type of goals though, Ethan355 - right foot, acres of space. In any case, it doesn't matter how many he scores, we know serie A is a mediocre-poor league where our own Colombian waste of space was a superstar.

Away with Salah. He has no future here... What kind of name is Salah anyway? And these Arab commentators, don't get me started on them...

(This is a wind-up! So don't smash anything!!!)

Man you are hilarious   you almost covered it all, you are just missing the shot against Shrewsbury and the europa league player thing and the job is done here    

Edited May 19, 201511 yr by ethan355

Fiorentina are welcome to him. 

 

Still not good enough for Chelsea's starting XI and we have enough players in our ranks to cover the role he played anyway. 

 

If we can make back the £11m we spent then no harm done. 

I'm glad he's doing well, ethan355, but where do you see him fit in at Chelsea, should he not be sold. Do you see Mourinho actually letting him be more than a back-up to Willian?

Considering he has played alongside a striker pretty much, do you think he'll fit in with the Chelsea system?

Personally, for all his goals, I don't see him displacing Willian.

Unless he works hard on his defensive, tactical side, I can't really see him as more than a back-up/ sub - that's if he's not sold of course.

I'm glad he's doing well, ethan355, but where do you see him fit in at Chelsea, should he not be sold. Do you see Mourinho actually letting him be more than a back-up to Willian?

Considering he has played alongside a striker pretty much, do you think he'll fit in with the Chelsea system?

Personally, for all his goals, I don't see him displacing Willian.

Unless he works hard on his defensive, tactical side, I can't really see him as more than a back-up/ sub - that's if he's not sold of course.

the problem for Salah is not Willian the problem is ivanovic. ivanovic as a right back helps in attack line a lot, he can sometimes do the right winger role when even playing as a right back in the formation so he needs to be covered defensively by the right winger and salah can't do that physically and tactically, this problem faced hazard on the left wing last year and hazard complained but it seems he had adapted. ivanovic is headache for mourinho system because if he got injured or left the team or retired ( ivanovic will be 32 in feb 2016 ) mourinho won't easily find RB who can do RW attacking. mourinho thought it could be cuadrado but he disappointed mourinho this season but maybe next season he will get better. if you compared willian stats ( 4 goals 4 assists in 41 game) with ivanovic stats (6 goals and 6 assists in 49 games) you will know what I am talking about and you will know why in two seasons long no one could have replaced willian not salah not shurle not even cuadrado because willian is a defensive RW and he did that role very good as he was originally a defensive Midfielder, so what is salah chances in chelsea ? I think any RW will come to chelsea will suffer from the system even griezmann or raheem sterling who prefers to play as LW and even bale who can fit the system as he played as LB before but also he prefers the left wing and he was a disaster in RW in madrid so what I see that mourinho will change the system next season because mourinho had to stick to this system this season as he was under a great pressure for not winning anything last season and he had to park the bus every game and suffer the comments about chelsea being boring cause he needed a trophy and he has done that this season (winning EPL and capital one cup) so what I see is this system will be changed in next season so salah will fit exactly as the best RW but let's be honest if mourinho buys griezmann, salah will be the second choice and if mourinho sticks with the current system, salah can play as a second striker or as attacking midfielder if mourinho decided to sell oscar who obviously is going to be a Juan Mata situation all over again so any scenario other than that well we all agree that salah will be out.

Edited May 19, 201511 yr by ethan355

mid season loan is the kiss of death, glad hes made an impact in Italy, he'd be a mug to wanna come back and sit on the bench 

the problem for Salah is not Willian the problem is ivanovic. ivanovic as a right back helps in attack line a lot, he can sometimes do the right winger role when even playing as a right back in the formation so he needs to be covered defensively by the right winger and salah can't do that physically and tactically

 

Bolton and Shrewsbury in the League Cup this season.  

 

Salah started both games on the right wing. 

 

The right backs? Azpilicueta and Christensen. 

 

Both matches Salah was the worst player in a Chelsea shirt. He just didn't cut it for us. 

Bolton and Shrewsbury in the League Cup this season.  

 

Salah started both games on the right wing. 

 

The right backs? Azpilicueta and Christensen. 

 

Both matches Salah was the worst player in a Chelsea shirt. He just didn't cut it for us. 

 

 

Really disagree, I fealt his build up play was excellet but his finishing sucked. It's clear since then that he was trying to hard with the final product but even so got an assist