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I'm fairly new to this forum and sometimes wonder what sort of future Chelsea may have.

The things I understand regarding Chelsea are as follows:-

1) Chelsea are 1 of the top 4 London Clubs. The others are Arsenal, Tottenham and West Ham.

2) Chelsea and Arsenal are the 2 top clubs in London, with Tottenham and West Ham in the shadows. Despite this, Tottenham managed to avoid a long trophy drought by winning the FA Cup in 1991 and League Cups in 1999 and 2008. West Ham on the other hand are just like Manchester City, in that both West Ham and Manchester City have sky blue in their clubs colours and an embarrassment to their respective cities of London and Manchester for over 30 years.

3) Chelsea Titles.  Chelsea currently have 4 titles unfortunately, this tallies with Manchester City also, but at least when Chelsea got promoted in 1989 the same year as Manchester City, Chelsea have remained established ever since, whereas Manchester City are just a comedy club/yo yo club.

 

4)Furthermore regarding trophy droughting, as in a way, this is going to be the monkey on the back of any football team serious about challenging for honours. In the South East, there has been the 3 London clubs Chelsea (who had a brief period between 1997-2000 and went from strength to strength since 2004), Arsenal (for nearly 30 years despite the difficulties between 2005-2014), Tottenham (Cup Successes mentioned above in point 2.) and West Ham, they have an extremely long drought, and if they're not careful, the London club QPR could easily overtake them if QPR's owners are ambitious enough to get a new stadium in West London and challenging for honours. Also in the South East, Portsmouth in Hampshire had their cup success in 2008, which was brief. The North West, there has been the 2 Manchester clubs and 2 Liverpool clubs, neither of which have a 25-30+ year drought. The Midlands, there is Aston Villa (League Cups in both 1994 and 1996), Nottingham Forest (League Cups in both 1989 and 1990), Leicester City (League Cups In 1997 and 2000) and Birmingham City (League Cup in 2011). If a club like Aston Villa was to re-emerge or another Midlands or Northern team, Chelsea could find themselves left behind with the likes of Tottenham and West Ham to contend with. Then there's the South West. I don't honestly think clubs such as Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Newcastle are any different from the likes of Bristol Rovers, Bristol City, Plymouth Argyle, Exeter City and Bath City/Salisbury City - It's just England's North-South divide unfortunately, where it's mostly been Northern and Midlands clubs achieving most of the success in English football at the top level. 

 

I've always liked Chelsea and Arsenal, they both play football the way it should be played because they both play to win. Then there was Manchester United who knocked the disgraceful Liverpool off their perch after Heysel in 1985, over the last 20 years, where Heysel affected over a dozen English football clubs until 1990/1991.

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We will we win more titles before Villa and Sunderland do? Well almost certainly yes. Not that I would see such a thing as a bragging right, then i'd sound like some scouse twat.

 

And there are a lot more London football clubs than that.

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I'm fairly new to this forum and sometimes wonder what sort of future Chelsea may have.

The things I understand regarding Chelsea are as follows:-

1) Chelsea are 1 of the top 4 London Clubs. The others are Arsenal, Tottenham and West Ham.

2) Chelsea and Arsenal are the 2 top clubs in London, with Tottenham and West Ham in the shadows. Despite this, Tottenham managed to avoid a long trophy drought by winning the FA Cup in 1991 and League Cups in 1999 and 2008. West Ham on the other hand are just like Manchester City, in that both West Ham and Manchester City have sky blue in their clubs colours and an embarrassment to their respective cities of London and Manchester for over 30 years.

3) Chelsea Titles.  Chelsea currently have 4 titles unfortunately, this tallies with Manchester City also, but at least when Chelsea got promoted in 1989 the same year as Manchester City, Chelsea have remained established ever since, whereas Manchester City are just a comedy club/yo yo club.

 

4)Furthermore regarding trophy droughting, as in a way, this is going to be the monkey on the back of any football team serious about challenging for honours. In the South East, there has been the 3 London clubs Chelsea (who had a brief period between 1997-2000 and went from strength to strength since 2004), Arsenal (for nearly 30 years despite the difficulties between 2005-2014), Tottenham (Cup Successes mentioned above in point 2.) and West Ham, they have an extremely long drought, and if they're not careful, the London club QPR could easily overtake them if QPR's owners are ambitious enough to get a new stadium in West London and challenging for honours. Also in the South East, Portsmouth in Hampshire had their cup success in 2008, which was brief. The North West, there has been the 2 Manchester clubs and 2 Liverpool clubs, neither of which have a 25-30+ year drought. The Midlands, there is Aston Villa (League Cups in both 1994 and 1996), Nottingham Forest (League Cups in both 1989 and 1990), Leicester City (League Cups In 1997 and 2000) and Birmingham City (League Cup in 2011). If a club like Aston Villa was to re-emerge or another Midlands or Northern team, Chelsea could find themselves left behind with the likes of Tottenham and West Ham to contend with. Then there's the South West. I don't honestly think clubs such as Leeds, Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland, Middlesbrough and Newcastle are any different from the likes of Bristol Rovers, Bristol City, Plymouth Argyle, Exeter City and Bath City/Salisbury City - It's just England's North-South divide unfortunately, where it's mostly been Northern and Midlands clubs achieving most of the success in English football at the top level. 

 

I've always liked Chelsea and Arsenal, they both play football the way it should be played because they both play to win. Then there was Manchester United who knocked the disgraceful Liverpool off their perch after Heysel in 1985, over the last 20 years, where Heysel affected over a dozen English football clubs until 1990/1991.

Really?

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Really!  Remember Arsenal's 8-2 pasting by ManU a few years back?  It was due to Arsenal playing to win, and even I have to give them some credit for playing very offensive-minded most of the time.

 

What le arse getting beat down 6-0 to the Chels @ Da Bridge last season? I can't ever remember CFC getting beat down like that. Seriously.

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What le arse getting beat down 6-0 to the Chels @ Da Bridge last season? I can't ever remember CFC getting beat down like that. Seriously.

 

 

Sadly we have had few iffy results in our history. This one springs readily to mind , and as the comments say on the page we were lucky to get nil that day.

 

 

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Sadly we have had few iffy results in our history. This one springs readily to mind , and as the comments say on the page we were lucky to get nil that day.

 

 

 

Ok fair enough but since the Golden Age of Chelsea (since 1998 but you can make the argument it was before this), I haven't seen a result like the 6-0 against CFC. Also keep in mind that le arse were Title rivals up until that point. This was supposed to be the time that le voyeur proved to the World that he wasn't the specialist in failure. Also it was is 1000th match as the gaffer of le arse. Remember the media spin before & after? It was horrible. First Wenger will seek revenge & put Jose in his place. Then afterwards it was the ref's fault for sending off the wrong player. TBH, it was very funny. Even funnier than an episode of Seinfeld

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In the next decade Chelsea will win more trophies, and further cement their place in the elite clubs of the world of football, let alone English football.

 

Aston Villa, Everton and Sunderland... Jesus, they've barely won anything in the last 3 decades have they? Without checking there's probably a couple of FA Cup/League cup wins between all three of them at most. Things change and periods are dominated by certain teams, in the last decade football has been dominated by United and Chelsea, with mentions to City and Liverpool. I honestly can't see it changing, those same clubs including Arsenal will continue to dominate in the next 10 years.

 

As for Chelsea getting hammered, I think Barcelona beat us 5-1 in the Champions League back in 2002 or 2003, and United beat us 5-3 in the FA Cup in the late 90's/Early 2000's.

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Everton have won 9 championships albeit the last one in 1984/5 and the one before that in the mid sixties!  So if you're just talking numbers, we've a bit to go and I think that's what the OP meant.  He could well be an oppo fan trying to put us in our place - but I know which team's record I'd prefer!

 

Similarly Aston Villa seven times (latest 1980/81) and Sunderland 6 - the last time in 1936  :laugh2:

 

But as I say, if you're talking only numbers.... but I think you'll probably agree that 80 years ago is a long time!

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In the next decade Chelsea will win more trophies, and further cement their place in the elite clubs of the world of football, let alone English football.

Aston Villa, Everton and Sunderland... Jesus, they've barely won anything in the last 3 decades have they? Without checking there's probably a couple of FA Cup/League cup wins between all three of them at most. Things change and periods are dominated by certain teams, in the last decade football has been dominated by United and Chelsea, with mentions to City and Liverpool. I honestly can't see it changing, those same clubs including Arsenal will continue to dominate in the next 10 years.

As for Chelsea getting hammered, I think Barcelona beat us 5-1 in the Champions League back in 2002 or 2003, and United beat us 5-3 in the FA Cup in the late 90's/Early 2000's.

Barca bet us 5-1 in 2000 utd bet us in 98 we where cup holders

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Why are we even replying to this c**t?

 

I admit I was hoping it was a gooner & I wanted to remind everyone about our 6-0 trouncing of le arse. They were contenders before kickoff & after 15 minutes they were shown to be true pretenders. I just remember the good laughter that followed that match. So no, I won't forget....I want to World To Remember this. I know I know, it was only last season, but still we can gloat about it right?

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