Modern day football - pet hates

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What don't you like about it?

I'll start us off........

Ridiculous kick off times. Thank you SKY

Celery ban. Political correctness gone mad.

All seater stadium - I miss the 'real shed!! Atmosphere across the whole of football has suffered, especially lower leagues!

Samsung win when you're singing competition Has there ever been anything more embarassing done at Stamford bridge? It really is cringe worthy!

Players shaking hands to that ridiculous music prior to kick-off - They are going to kick lumps out of each other regardless of the music and handshake. There was no need to 'jazz it up!'

The FA They just come across more and more as a bunch of money grabbing arseholes as time goes on. Still paying Sven, they promoted McClaren after a shocking WC. They couldn't organise the new Wembley. Blackmailed England fans (for bonus WC points) to travel to Denmark to watch us play Argentina in a HOME friendly!! The ticket prices and no doubt the refreshments at Wembley are blatently ripping the arse out of the average supporter. Ticket allocations for the final

I'm sure I'll think of some more soon!

[jemchelsea]

I dont like the fact that the chelsea dudes have to shake hands with the other teams players yuk he he

On a serious note, I dont like the fact that it is always aimed at boys!!!

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I dont like the fact that it is always aimed at boys!!!

It is a man's game!!

Neil Barnett - The way he introduces the teams RRRRrrrrrreeeppprrrreeesenting CHHEELLLLLLsea Foooootttball club

Ticket office/sales Was run more effeciently when it was a clapped out porta-cabin!

[jemchelsea]

That is just sexist! I dont even know who Neil Barnett is lol. I play footy with my friends and we all think it should be more appealing towards girls.

I think this should become a proper debate!!!

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YOU DONT WANNA SEE THIS THREAD THEN

http://www.csrforums2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=3248

[TT]

Players being allowed to usher the ball out of play, and no obstuction is given.

[midlandblue]

Liverpool.

[Nibs]

Football has moved on so much in the last decade or so and most of it we just have to accept. The kick off times / Sky TV etc - can't ever see that going back to how it was - 3.00pm Saturday or midweek games Tuesdays & Wednesdays 7.30 / 7.45 kick off.

Love the idea of terracing again and being able to "just turn up" on the day, but again - it ain't gonna happen.

The one thing I do hate in games now, is the putting the ball out when a player is "injured" - it's gone way too far. Originally, if one of the opposition went down and you could see it was a bad injury, yeah put the ball out and when play resumes they give you the ball back. All very fair no problem with that.

But now, ANY time someone goes down everyone expects the ball to be put out. It's crazy. Most of the time the player isn't even injured. It was noticeable in the Blackburn semi final how players on both sides got irate when the ball wasn't put out and it's a stupid situation. If say we put the ball out because one of our own players is down, why should the other side give it back? CHANGE IT NOW!!!

And personally I would also like to go back to just having one sub. Again, I know it will never happen - not in these days of massive squads and players who don't play a lot being on ?50k+ a week (I'd also like to see that changed!!), but 11 players and you get 1 sub and that's how it is for everyone. Keeper get's injured? Too bad - it used to happen and you get JT (or Speedie!!!) go in goal. Would make it more exciting AND you wouldn't get those stupid 89th minute wind the clock down substitions.

Good Thread!!

[Elliott]

Players getting booked for celebrating.

[bjd]

Players getting booked for celebrating.

Yep, thats my pet hate too.

I also detest the now common American policy of club announcers shouting the first name of a player over the PA and then crowd then shouting his surname.

Oh, and yes, Liverpool.

[Kev123]

Football has moved on so much in the last decade or so and most of it we just have to accept. The kick off times / Sky TV etc - can't ever see that going back to how it was - 3.00pm Saturday or midweek games Tuesdays & Wednesdays 7.30 / 7.45 kick off.

Love the idea of terracing again and being able to "just turn up" on the day, but again - it ain't gonna happen.

The one thing I do hate in games now, is the putting the ball out when a player is "injured" - it's gone way too far. Originally, if one of the opposition went down and you could see it was a bad injury, yeah put the ball out and when play resumes they give you the ball back. All very fair no problem with that.

But now, ANY time someone goes down everyone expects the ball to be put out. It's crazy. Most of the time the player isn't even injured. It was noticeable in the Blackburn semi final how players on both sides got irate when the ball wasn't put out and it's a stupid situation. If say we put the ball out because one of our own players is down, why should the other side give it back? CHANGE IT NOW!!!

And personally I would also like to go back to just having one sub. Again, I know it will never happen - not in these days of massive squads and players who don't play a lot being on ?50k+ a week (I'd also like to see that changed!!), but 11 players and you get 1 sub and that's how it is for everyone. Keeper get's injured? Too bad - it used to happen and you get JT (or Speedie!!!) go in goal. Would make it more exciting AND you wouldn't get those stupid 89th minute wind the clock down substitions.

Good Thread!!

Other teams would go out to deliberately injure a player then after 1 substitution was made.

[SydneyChelsea]

I also detest the now common American policy of club announcers shouting the first name of a player over the PA and then crowd then shouting his surname.

Actually, it's not American, it's done all over Europe especially Germany. Ultras groups love it.

I think it's great and we're working with Sydney FC to get something like that for our matches.

[Jane]

1) Diving

2) Football being on Sky and not terrestrial TV

3) Sky .

4) Ridiculous money for players.

5) Agree with Elliott on players being booked for celebrating.

Thats for starters, I'll have to clear my head a little more for some more.

jem - football has always been for boys, I'm afraid. I started going to Chelsea when I was a little girl. (My Dad wanted a boy) and however much I knew, felt, dreamed of, etc. for the club, I was always regarded as "only" a girl. I don't think it will change in my lifetime I'm afraid. As for it being a "man's" game - well that's just a big fib chaps and you know it!

[bjd]

I also detest the now common American policy of club announcers shouting the first name of a player over the PA and then crowd then shouting his surname.

Actually, it's not American, it's done all over Europe especially Germany. Ultras groups love it.

I think it's great and we're working with Sydney FC to get something like that for our matches.

Sorry Sydney, American or not i find it utterley cringeworthy.

[bonetti]

I also detest the now common American policy of club announcers shouting the first name of a player over the PA and then crowd then shouting his surname.

Actually, it's not American, it's done all over Europe especially Germany. Ultras groups love it.

I think it's great and we're working with Sydney FC to get something like that for our matches.

Sorry Sydney, American or not i find it utterley cringeworthy.

Dead right - its on a par with some crap DJ cutting the volume on the chorus to Hi Ho Silver Lining and pointing the mike at the crowd

[SydneyChelsea]

I also detest the now common American policy of club announcers shouting the first name of a player over the PA and then crowd then shouting his surname.

Actually, it's not American, it's done all over Europe especially Germany. Ultras groups love it.

I think it's great and we're working with Sydney FC to get something like that for our matches.

Sorry Sydney, American or not i find it utterley cringeworthy.

No worries, I can see what you mean though. And fair enough in an established singing fan culture like you have in Britain there's no need.

I just like it because at Sydney it gets the non-football following Aussies involved.

[ethicalstrategy]

2) Football being on Sky and not terrestrial TV

We could go back to when all the televised matches were on BBC & ITV - basically, the FA Cup Final! I know that ITV did show some live league games for a short period before the Premier League was formed, but fundementally, there was never any live football on terrestial tv apart from the odd international and the cup final.

[midlandblue]

Chelsea's first live game (Dixon rises like a salmon to head in at the far post) away to Man City was on BBC on a Friday night.

[loz]

Quite a few repeats of other people?s here and I am going to restrict it to general gripes rather than Chelsea specific ones.

I hate:

a) Diving ? and not just for penalties, anywhere on the park, be it for a free kick just outside the box of a full back trying to win a free kick because he has just screwed up a clearance.

B) Feigning Injuries ? It is just embarrassing to watch a grown man rolling around clutching his face/arm/leg/gut as if they have just been pummelled by a herd of man hungry rhinos when the truth is a 4 year old child would be embarrassed to cry at such minor contact.

c) Booking for celebrating a goal - Be that lifting off your shirt or hugging your own fans. If that is inciting a riot then I guess we are all hooligans.

d) Football fans who press charges because a player gives them the bird ? How sensitive are we becoming? Obviously not so sensitive to spend 90 minutes hurling abuse but sensitive enough to be tarnished for life by a minor reaction.

e) Refs moaning about players not respecting them but then not having the bottle to do anything about it ? if you don?t want players hounding you for decisions then book them, you have the power to do it after all.

f) Ticket allocation to big games ? every cup final ticket allocation is a joke

g) Venues and times for big games ? we all know what I am getting at.

h) Excessive good manners at games ? I hate being told to sit down at a game every time I stand up because something is happening in the game, bloody crowd looks like jack in the boxes.

i) Prices full stop ? tickets, programmes, merchandise, refreshments etc

j) Lack of terrestrial TV coverage ? the Govt has a role to ensure an acceptable level of sport is available to all on TV and football is the countries most popular sport, so why is such a small % of it on terrestrial TV.

k) The latest incarnation of the offside rule ? tinkering for tinkerings sake

l) Lack of Appreciation - Clubs failing to put in place, and operate, a satisfactory loyalty scheme for tickets.

m) Conflict of interests - The FA allowing key domestic club personnel to sit in positions of considerable power within the FA hierarchy.

n) Inconsistency in rules ? why is a defender sent off for a professional foul (i.e. cheating to prevent a clear goal scoring chance) but a player is not sent off for diving for a penalty (i.e. cheating to create a clear goal scoring chance)

o) Playing the ball out when someone is injured ? leave it to the ref to decide.

p) 30 secs per sub in injury time ? It is a simple rule so why do refs fail miserably to apply it

[Elliott]

c) Booking for celebrating a goal - Be that lifting off your shirt or hugging your own fans. If that is inciting a riot then I guess we are all hooligans.

I really can't get my head around it.

Exactly how long does it take to stick your shirt back on? HELLO?

The one thing that we want to see above all else, is passion.

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c) Booking for celebrating a goal - Be that lifting off your shirt or hugging your own fans. If that is inciting a riot then I guess we are all hooligans.

I really can't get my head around it.

Exactly how long does it take to stick your shirt back on? HELLO?

The one thing that we want to see above all else, is passion.

If you can't take your shirt off - don't do it. I don't know what possesses a footballer to want to rip his shirt of when he scores!?!

But certainly DONT book players for running to the crowd, the bookings for Sheva and Ballack in the game at home this year were a joke!

oh and the music thing made me thing of another one.....

Playing music when a goal is scored - Is it really necessary? People moan about atmosphere then have a song thrown down their throat as soon as theres a chance to sing a players name or something.

Also sometimes at the bridge, especially if there is a late winner, equaliser (ala Arsenal) the sound system kicks in and we get to hear blue day or blue is the colour. Don't get me wrong they are great songs but I'd have liked Stamford bridge to be sending out a chorus os 'ESSIEN' after the Arsenal game. The records can wait a couple of minutes surely.

Fans leaving early It's no longer trendy to wait until the final whistle. On TV you could see Manu fans leaving Villa Park early on Saturday. Some games at the bridge there must be around 25k people left in the ground at the final whistle.

[Liam]

"Shielding" the ball as it runs out for a goal kick

annoys the sh*te out of me. Most of the time the obstruction involved is unbelievably blatant - defenders backing into the attacker as the ball trickles over the line. There is an obstruction rule in football which is ignored here. Defenders should be forced to play the ball in these situations which will lead to more attacking play, something FIFA are supposed to be encouraging.

[Lofty]

A few things that annoy the life out of me:

1. All seater stadiums

2. Being asked to mind your language

3. Even worse, being asked to keep the noise down because some pillock is on the phone.

4. Ticket prices, way beyond my budget.

Nothing new or unusual there?

There is however, one other issue that's really annoyed me lately, and here I have to be extremely careful if I don't want to be branded as racist. And that is the complaints that the complete absence of British Asians (for the benefit or American and other fans, that means Asians from the Indian sub-contintent) in the Premier League, or even in the lower leagues, is down to widespread racism in the game. Garbage. Absolute bloody trash. Look at the wide variety of races/nationalities that are represented within British football - countless black British players; Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Australian, American, Turkish, Israeli, and so on and so on. So why no Indian or Pakistani players? I think I know why, and it's just my opinion of course, but if racism contributes in any way to the lack of British Asian professional footballers, then the origin of that racism does NOT come from within football.

Actually I could put that little lot under the umbrella of political correctness - T*tt*nh*m fans can chant Y*d army, but opposing fans who dare mention the word risk getting branded as Nazi thugs. Then there's Jacqui Oatley's promotion from Radio 5 to Match of The Day,which I strongly suspect is a case of the BBC fastracking her as a woman, in the same way as that Maneesh bloke was given the job as a football reporter - I don't dislike him because he's Asian, I dislike him because he's bloody useless. To me he comes across more as a kid's TV presenter than a football reporter. And it's much the same with Jacqui Oatley. OK she's better looking than Motty and all the rest of them (doesn't take much does it?), and I dare say she'll do her research so that she at least seems to know what she's talking about. But personally, I find her voice irritating - it jars on me.

EDIT: I'm confused. Why was fast tracking, meaning given a short cut to promotion in her career, changed to f*renching?

[Lofty]

And Sepp Blatter

Sepp Blatter sticking his oar in

Sepp Blatter making Mike Parry sound sane and sensible

Sepp Blatter's continual anti-English stance

Sepp Blatter's continued presence on the planet

The sight, sound and actual existence of the Blatter man

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Then there's Jacqui Oatley's promotion from Radio 5 to Match of The Day,which I strongly suspect is a case of the BBC f*renching her as a woman, in the same way as that Maneesh bloke was given the job as a football reporter - I don't dislike him because he's Asian, I dislike him because he's bloody useless. To me he comes across more as a kid's TV presenter than a football reporter. And it's much the same with Jacqui Oatley. OK she's better looking than Motty and all the rest of them (doesn't take much does it?), and I dare say she'll do her research so that she at least seems to know what she's talking about. But personally, I find her voice irritating - it jars on me

They employ Garth Crooks for the same reasons, political correctness cause thats all it can be for! He is a terrible pundit and can't interview to save his life, isn't he the reason Fergie doesn't speask to the BBC anymore?

Chris Kamara is excellent and is on TV due to merit and personality, Crooks on the other hand