Top 10 most hated teams, according to Virgin Media (apparently) but I can't find the link:

1. Chelsea, Amazing arrogance, buying the Premier League title, celebrity 'fans' like Tim Lovejoy, David Mellor and Damon Albarn, 70s hooligans, John Terry's attitude to refs, Ashley Cole. Need we go on?

2. Mancs, Fans everywhere in the world but not even the biggest club in Manchester (so the legend goes), the Glazers, injury time goals and Old Trafford penalties, megastores and the Theatre of Dreams.

3. (surprisingly) MK Dons, Being Franchise FC, laying claim to the history of the club they destroyed, Pete Winkelman.

4. Leeds, Revie's hard men and the legacy it left, hooligans, Bowyer and Woodgate, Wise and Bates, sacking Cloughie. (defo not done by a Red then with the bighead reason).

5. Lazio, The club's relationship with and tolerance of extreme right-wing views, as exemplified by Paolo Di Canio's stiff-right-arm salute in 2005. (I like Lazio after 1984, when they were cheering for us).

6. Celtic AND Rangers, The cabal that cannibalises Scottish football while actively seeking to undermine it by leaving it: both Celtic and Rangers are despised by more than just each other, regardless of any non-football issues that may exist.

7. Millwall, No-one likes them, but they don't care. The UK's most enduring reputation for bone-headed thuggery among fans, whether it remains true or false. (Used to be top of everyones list)

8. Luton, Well-liked for their entertaining side until getting into bed with Sports Minister Colin Moynihan over compulsory ID cards, and then their plastic pitch, blighted the mid to late 1980s and made them a hate club.

9. Newcastle, "Massive club" and "loyal fans" - the "Geordie Nation" has won nothing since Elvis was a teenager, and most of their fans were mysteriously absent from the paltry 11,000 that used to turn out in Division 2 in 1991. See also: Bowyer/Dyer/Bellamy/Bramble/Shearer all in one team, and fat fans with no shirts who weep on cue for the TV. (Oh how I laughed when I read that.)

10. Real Madrid, In a country with several semi-autonomous regions, Real represent the heart of Castilla, the Kingdom of Spain, and always seem to get what they want, making them loathed by the rest of the nation - and Europe, once they went global with their 'Galactico' poli

cy.

And the top 10 most hated players:

1. Didier Drogba - But Drogba makes number one thanks to his unfailing devotion to diving, moaning, haranguing refs and - the clincher - his petulance, epitomised by that rather unseemly slap on Nemanja Vidic in the Champions League final.

2. Ashley Cole - "Only number two!" - 'Cashley' might swerve off the road in anger if he knew he'd been beaten to the top slot, despite his track record of whingeing, childishly turning his back on refs and of course THAT passage in THAT book.

3. Cristiano Ronaldo(my most hated) - Some say he's a twinkle-toed genius and the best player in the world - and while this may be true, his very greatness (and more importantly, the fact that he clearly KNOWS he is) along with that infamous wink in World Cup 2006, makes Ronaldo number three.

4. Joey Barton - With a list of 'real-life' wrongdoings longer than anyone else on this list, Barton's on-field lunges and temperamental outbursts were always going to help him to a high placing in the loathing list.

5. Robbie Savage - Yes folks, he's still going.. he's been loathed for so long now that he's almost loved in some ways. Still the pre-eminent Premier League nagger and over-the-top actor.

6. Craig Bellamy - A keen golfer - just ask John Arne Riise - he's had more than his fair share of clubs, thanks to his unfailing ability to fall out with his managers and fellow pros.

7. John Terry - Some (mainly Chelsea fans and diehard patriots) love England's 'man's man', while others find his attempts to referee matches boorish, not to mention his various nightclub scrapes and THAT 9/11 incident.

8. Emmanuel Eboue - Even Arsenal fans don't like this man. He whinges, he nags, he dives to win free-kicks (cf: Champions League final) and moans when rejected.

9. Lee Bowyer - Not as regular a court attender as he once was - but still no longer welcome in Leeds nightclubs or McDonalds nationwide - Bowyer remains an unpleasant figure to many. Ok, to most.

10. El Hadji Diouf - Spitter extraordinaire, and renowned fan-baiter - but the Bolton striker only just scrapes into our top ten.

I thought I'd post this for Qaz and anyone else who thinks the anti-Chelsea feelings prevalent in the UK have been exaggerated.

Even regarding the non-Chelsea comments, that is a pathetic peice of journalism.

A 5 year old could have done it.

For example, Real Madrid? How are those good reasons to hate them?

Yes they always seem to 'find' money, and try to get the best players, but is'nt that every top European Club?

Garbage.

I thought I'd post this for Qaz and anyone else who thinks the anti-Chelsea feelings prevalent in the UK have been exaggerated.

I didn't say it was exaggerated, only that I don't give a flying f*ck what opposition supporters think of Chelsea and that caring (by playing the "everyone's out to get us" card) makes us look weak and plastic.

If your completely at ease with your choice of club, would it matter if every single person in the world other than you thought you were wrong?.

The whole thing reads to me as if it was written by a Scouser. Liverscum themselves being notable by their absense.

On one level, of course it doesn't matter what any other f**ker thinks. On the other hand, a sizeable percentage of people in this country are thick enough to lap up that kind of drivel and regurgitate it at every conceivable opportunity.

Know your enemy.

The whole thing reads to me as if it was written by a Scouser. Liverscum themselves being notable by their absense.

My exact thoughts

My exact thoughts

Me too

What a load of cr*p and who cares.

How about a shed end top ? I'll start, we'll sort out the order later

Team

1. Liverpool - Seem to think they have a god given right to win things, completely obsessed with Chelsea for some reason, the worst scum low life fans ever.

Player

1. Stevie Gerrard... cant do anythign wrong even though he is a serial diver when things dont go his way, was gonna come to Chelsea till Liverpool came in with a better offer then claimed he was a loyal scouser

Must be written by a Scouser, and not just because they put us tops, but becuase surely LFC would be on there before frigging Luton town if this was truly an objective piece

And yeah, Drogba and Cashley are more hated than a sorry excuse for a HUMAN BEING in Joey Barton. Riiiight. Only if he gets bonus points for being a bloody scouser

Oh...but surely everyone loves Liverpool because they have the best fans in the world who are so passionate about their club that they force their way into stadiums when they haven't been able to steal a ticket from one of their own fans.

Me too

What a load of cr*p and who cares.

How about a shed end top ? I'll start, we'll sort out the order later

Team

1. Liverpool - Seem to think they have a god given right to win things, completely obsessed with Chelsea for some reason, the worst scum low life fans ever.

Player

1. Stevie Gerrard... cant do anythign wrong even though he is a serial diver when things dont go his way, was gonna come to Chelsea till Liverpool came in with a better offer then claimed he was a loyal scouser

And some bloody cheek to call Terry a 'ref'.

Christ, have you seen the way Gerrard and Mark Clattenburg get on?

On one level, of course it doesn't matter what any other f**ker thinks. On the other hand, a sizeable percentage of people in this country are thick enough to lap up that kind of drivel and regurgitate it at every conceivable opportunity.

Let the thick people lap up and regurgitate the drivel then. Their thick, why bother wasting your time getting mad about it?.

Know your enemy.

By calling them your enemy your giving them relevance. By ignoring them completely and not getting upset over stupid sh*t like this, your taking that relevance away.

Here are links to the lists(in case your interested):

Most Hated Clubs

Most Hated Players

I crafted a response, but I dont think it got posted. They seem to be removing all the comments that dont lap it up. I also found the picture they used for Man United to be a racial jab of a not-so-subtle variety

But nobody knows what Virgin Sport is anway anyway, so what does it matter

Let the thick people lap up and regurgitate the drivel then. Their thick, why bother wasting your time getting mad about it?.

By calling them your enemy your giving them relevance. By ignoring them completely and not getting upset over stupid sh*t like this, your taking that relevance away.

If you imagine I'm in any way upset by this crap, then you seriously misunderstand, or maybe underestimate me; or both, I really don't know.

As for ignoring them? That's like telling someone who's stuck in the middle of a swamp to ignore the quicksand. and the alligators.

Just ignore the nasty snappy things and they'll go away.

If you imagine I'm in any way upset by this crap, then you seriously misunderstand, or maybe underestimate me; or both, I really don't know.

As for ignoring them? That's like telling someone who's stuck in the middle of a swamp to ignore the quicksand. and the alligators.

Just ignore the nasty snappy things and they'll go away.

Top. top reply Lofty.

Qaz, you're on a loser here. I'm afraid you really don't know what you're talking about in respect of the Chelsea hating English media.

PS. The piece was 100% written by a mouser.

On one level, of course it doesn't matter what any other f**ker thinks. On the other hand, a sizeable percentage of people in this country are thick enough to lap up that kind of drivel and regurgitate it at every conceivable opportunity.

OK, no humour contained in that post, but Lofty has hit the nail on the head.

It's totally representative of the public bar "football fan", who learns all he needs to know about football from the daily papers. The type of bloke we all bump into on a Saturday night down our local.

Can I nominate it for the memorable quotes section?

Edited July 11, 200818 yr by just

Top. top reply Lofty.

Qaz, you're on a loser here. I'm afraid you really don't know what you're talking about in respect of the Chelsea hating English media.

PS. The piece was 100% written by a mouser.

whole thing is utter bollocks. have another look at number 6 in the teams top ten as utter proof as someone who quite clearly knows nothing about, well nothing.

Edited July 11, 200818 yr by bjd

I'm surprised they didn't use the "no history" -card against Chelsea, but choose to mention 70's hooliganism instead. :lol:

OK, no humour contained in that post, but Lofty has hit the nail on the head.

It's totally representative of the public bar "football fan", who learns all he needs to know about football from the daily papers. The type of bloke we all bump into on a Saturday night down our local.

Can I nominate it for the memorable quotes section?

The perfect opportunity for me to remind people they can now submit memorables themselves - just click on iQuotes at the top of the page Just.

oh dear, what a pity, never f**king mind.

Any such work that does not have Liverpool as 'at least' second is highly suspect. Whenever you talk to opposition fans when going away they all say they hate the feral and loud-mouthed self-professed "best fans in the world", and the lemon-eating face of Saint Steven Gerrard.

We are disliked but no'1? Nahhh.

If you imagine I'm in any way upset by this crap, then you seriously misunderstand, or maybe underestimate me; or both, I really don't know.

As for ignoring them? That's like telling someone who's stuck in the middle of a swamp to ignore the quicksand. and the alligators.

Just ignore the nasty snappy things and they'll go away.

The difference is that the nasty snappy things and the quicksand will actually hurt you, maybe kill you, therefore they are relevant.

Unless you find yourself in a Scouse bar somewhere with a bunch of eleven toed scousers threatening to beat the sh*t out of you, they aren't really relevant or important. By comparing them to quicksand and alligators, your giving them a relevance and an importance I don't.

Once again, if their idiots, why do you care what they think (or say or do)?. It only affects you if you let it affect you and by letting it affect you, your giving those idiots exactly what they want......relevance.

Edited July 12, 200818 yr by Guest

It only affects you if you let it affect you

Nonsensical argument. It's up to me if that baseball bat swinging my way affects me? The scumbag trying to nick my money only affects me if I let him? The lowlifes storming the gates, trying to get in with forged tickets, used tickets etc are only relevant if I or someone like me gives them relevance?

You don't get a lot of Scousers down under, do you Qaz.

qaz, you need to come to england and spend some time with the lovely dippers. i guarantee within an hour you`ll detest them as much as we do. there self indulgent, sickly, victim mentality will have you as wound up as we get. then you would understand why we hate them so much. the fact the media play it up and completely ignore anything bad the club or the fans do just adds to our ire.

Nonsensical argument. It's up to me if that baseball bat swinging my way affects me? The scumbag trying to nick my money only affects me if I let him? The lowlifes storming the gates, trying to get in with forged tickets, used tickets etc are only relevant if I or someone like me gives them relevance?

You don't get a lot of Scousers down under, do you Qaz.

Has a souser swung a baseball bat at you yet?, stolen your money or your tickets to a game yet?

Qaz. If you want to start a Scousers are ok really fan club, do it somewhere else.

But to answer your questions:

Baseball bat, no - Stanley knife yes

I've never had a ticket for a Chelsea v Liverpool game. In my day you could turn up on the day.

And yes the bar stewards would have nicked my cash given half the chance.

Edited July 13, 200818 yr by Lofty