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Great window lads......

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View PostBlueSkies, on 31 January 2012 - 10:56 PM, said:

Well that's about that. Hardly shocking that we didn't sign anyone else. We're going to struggle massively. Hopefully we get 4th, but I wouldn't put much money on it at the moment.
Echoed my thoughts there BS.

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Can I just point out to you guys that we lost 67m this financial year.

We still have some enormous wages on the books that are going to have to be culled before we can do anything. A new 100k a week player without removing some of the other wages is a recipe for missing FFP. We can scrape by in 4th this year I think. After all we got a point today after playing as bad as I've ever watched us play post-2003 and having a man sent off.

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State of free fall here... We may not even get 5th playing like we are currently... Liverpool is looking stronger and stronger with Gerrard back and Caroll seems to be reaping all the awards of Gerrard back in the line up too... Really surprised with the state Chelsea is in now and nobody added to the squad.  What's the point of signing Cahill when he doesn't even play?  It's dumbfounding, really!

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View PostDoubleHelix74, on 31 January 2012 - 11:06 PM, said:

State of free fall here... We may not even get 5th playing like we are currently... Liverpool is looking stronger and stronger with Gerrard back and Caroll seems to be reaping all the awards of Gerrard back in the line up too... Really surprised with the state Chelsea is in now and nobody added to the squad.  What's the point of signing Cahill when he doesn't even play?  It's dumbfounding, really!

Oh come off it, it's only been just over a week since Liverpool got skullf**ked against Bolton. We'll get in the top 4 I'm not worried about that.

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Definitely here you Spiller on the wages we have on the books but surely we could've picked up somebody that wouldn't cost that much.  I keep going back to Honda going to Lazio for 11M... He could've been the spark we need...  I understand that we spent lavishly in the past and its biting us in the arse now but if we can't make the CL next season its going to be way worse.  Don't think they needed a superstar but a Honda or Dempsey could've made the difference. I sure hope we can get 4th...

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View PostSpiller86, on 31 January 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Can I just point out to you guys that we lost 67m this financial year.

We still have some enormous wages on the books that are going to have to be culled before we can do anything. A new 100k a week player without removing some of the other wages is a recipe for missing FFP. We can scrape by in 4th this year I think. After all we got a point today after playing as bad as I've ever watched us play post-2003 and having a man sent off.

i see us finishing behind both liverpool and arsenal. ive pretty much made peace with us playing in the europa league next season

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@ Time to waste, but that was w/o Gerrard no?  Perhaps I am panicking too much or giving LFC too much credit but regardless we should be worried...

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I got to say I am pretty disappointed. Chelsea signed 3 players: Cahill, De Bruyne, and Bamford, but I was expecting a move to help them solidify CL for next year. Cahill is a solid CB but Chelsea's problem has been scoring goals. They keep playing 1-0, 1-1, or 2-1 games. Cahill won't help with that. De Bryune looks like a great talent, but he is off to Genk for the rest of the year and likely on loan all of next year. Bamford is very young and nowhere near EPL first team. I really thought Chelsea would look to get another midfielder to help the attack.

I really fear that today's result a 1-1 draw with Swansea, which the Blues lucked into a draw and really deserved to lose, will be a harbinger of what to expect.  I may be overreatcing, but I am now worried they will not even qualify for Europa and will end up around 7th or 8th overall.

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View PostDoubleHelix74, on 31 January 2012 - 11:15 PM, said:

@ Time to waste, but that was w/o Gerrard no?  Perhaps I am panicking too much or giving LFC too much credit but regardless we should be worried...
I think everybody is panicking a bit too much, I'm really angry that we've done nothing to help our season in this transfer window, but I still think we'll get in the champions league. As for Liverpool, I'm going to wait to see what their form in the league is like before I think Gerrard coming back is like the second coming of christ, anything can happen in cup games.

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I fear the club could have shot themselves in the foot by not signing an attacking player. What annoyed me the most is we spent the most money this transfer windown and what do we really have to show for it right now? Cahill who still couldnt get a game yesterday with JT out. All of the signings we made were just uncalled for imo.
If we fail to make the top 4 then i cant see who to point the finger at because there will be so many to blame.

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Awful transfer window for us. We are even weaker now. Anelka has gone, no replacement. Cahill came in, did not get a game for 2 weeks, doubt he will debut against United. Josh went on loan, another creative player out. We signed up some 16 year old who won't play for the first team for at least 2 years, and why loan the young Belgian back when we clearly need some width and creativity on the pitch now. I saw Lucas on the bench last night, any chance he get a few minutes this season?

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View Posticecoolguy22, on 01 February 2012 - 11:29 AM, said:

I saw Lucas on the bench last night, any chance he get a few minutes this season?

he was on the bench just to fill out a spot. with all the injuries and players on ACN we cant even make the bench without bringing in players from the reserves

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Surprised not to see Hutchinson out on loan....

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After this January window the question is have we become any better?

Outs: Alex and Anelka out + loads of youngsters out on loan and prosenik sold.

Ins, Cahill, De Bruyne and Bamford.


In the long term, probably - but now, no.

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View PostAndreas, on 01 February 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

After this January window the question is have we become any better?

Outs: Alex and Anelka out + loads of youngsters out on loan and prosenik sold.

Ins, Cahill, De Bruyne and Bamford.


In the long term, probably - but now, no.

I agree. Before this transfer window I think many here felt that we needed to improve this team to have a shot at the top three. We needed someone who could come in and make a difference.

Instead we basically trade Alex for Cahill and lose Anelka - one of the few who on occasions actually tried to make things happen.

I thought AVB would get a chance to continue to build his Chelsea side now, but that didn't really happen. Instead he got atleast one player he didn't really pick (seems so anyway).

Unless a miracle happens I think we will be in some serious trouble this season and AVB will be lucky to keep his job, unless the Chelsea board for once have decided to give someone a long term chance.

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View PostAndreas, on 01 February 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

After this January window the question is have we become any better?

Outs: Alex and Anelka out + loads of youngsters out on loan and prosenik sold.

Ins, Cahill, De Bruyne and Bamford.


In the long term, probably - but now, no.
You are quite right. I think AVB tried to sign some players, even having bids rejected according to reports, but he couldnt get any quality player. I feel its better to wait for the summer to try to get a class player than a panic buy in January beacause he couldnt get his target.

Moreover, although we didnt strengthened our team, neither any of our direct rivals did(Tottenham, Arsenal, Liverpool) except Saha, who is a very good player in my opinion but i doubt he will get more play time than Pavlyuchenko did.
If you think our team has problems, you should watch Arsenal and Liverpool games

Edited by eldakar, 01 February 2012 - 04:36 PM.


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View Postmrjhay, on 31 January 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

And how thankful we are for Meireles...

Yeah good point. I take it all back because I put the 'I' in Meireles the wrong side of the 'r' Shock Horror

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View Postducavis, on 31 January 2012 - 10:46 PM, said:

Are you sure we need a CB, clearly AVB considers him 4th choice behind Ivanovic. I might be wrong but Ivanovic, Hutchinson, + add Bosingwa, ESsien and Maybe Romeu could all play CB. iMO it was an unnecessary signing.

Now im not as convinced as most on here that Bosingwa is useless and right back, but the idea of him at CB is quite a scary one




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