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The whole premise of this piece seems to be that Chelsea managers have 100% control over transfers and that recruitment is a funding source to the plus side of the balance sheet, when it
really should be a means to an end for success on the pitch, with the financial rewards coming as a result of that success
 
CFC managers having control of recruitment is clearly not the case, so at the end of the day it bears no relevance to the departed Mourinho. It appalls me that so called fans of Chelsea slag off the club's MOST successful manager ever- mind blowingly
disloyal and dis respectful, and to be fair its the same BS as slagging off Roman for the very transfer policy that frustrates  us all (its his bloody club at the end of the day to do with as he chooses- that's reality)
 
getting back on point, the recruitment strategy appears to be a 'team effort' with the manager being consulted and the DOF and the board recruiting/ selling with the owner having final veto powers, so 
when playing the blame game please blame all of the parties involved not just the easy target of the twice fired  'individual (lol)' that is now in the red scum's employment and at this point in time the enemy. 
 
 
 
 

Just seen a welcome clip, I think after our fourth goal yesterday, of courtois celebrating madly and running into the fans at his end to join in their celebrations...good to see a rare bit of chelsea emotion, like he was happy to be winning a game with us

I cannot agree. As Jezz says below, 'good things from his perspective.'

One can express gratitude for what we've won on the pitch, what has been built in term of brand, player and infrastructure improvements, but that doesn't solve existing issues with which many supporters are still frustrated:
The lying/hiring of Rafa. The cronyism in the upper levels of directorship (Marina, Tenenbaum, Emenalo.) The underground attempt to buy out the CPO. The expensive ticketing pricing. Failure on many supporters' primary concerns  for any new stadium when built.
Even though I'm not native to the UK, thee issues concern me greatly - as a Chelsea supporter, as a CPO shareholder, member of the CST. As someone who recognizes there's more to football than football, and witnesses the power of our community daily.

The supporters were there as part of the CPO. And if we want to be extremely technical about it, Ken Bates did more to save this club than Roman - Roman built upon what was there. Regardless, there would still be a Chelsea Football Club playing football at Stamford Bridge, albeit it with the chance it's not as successful as the one we know today, because of the supporters that are part of the CPO.
I disagree 100% with your last two lines. Our club is nothing without local supporters. If they stop going, or are priced out, they are not going to be magically replaced by other passionate supporters locally ready to swell the ranks, nor the "millions" of supporters we have around the world. Football dies if local support is treated poorly. This club, this league, this game is nothing without local supporters.
 

I cannot agree. As Jezz says below, 'good things from his perspective.'

One can express gratitude for what we've won on the pitch, what has been built in term of brand, player and infrastructure improvements, but that doesn't solve existing issues with which many supporters are still frustrated:
The lying/hiring of Rafa. The cronyism in the upper levels of directorship (Marina, Tenenbaum, Emenalo.) The underground attempt to buy out the CPO. The expensive ticketing pricing. Failure on many supporters' primary concerns  for any new stadium when built.
Even though I'm not native to the UK, thee issues concern me greatly - as a Chelsea supporter, as a CPO shareholder, member of the CST. As someone who recognizes there's more to football than football, and witnesses the power of our community daily.

The supporters were there as part of the CPO. And if we want to be extremely technical about it, Ken Bates did more to save this club than Roman - Roman built upon what was there. Regardless, there would still be a Chelsea Football Club playing football at Stamford Bridge, albeit it with the chance it's not as successful as the one we know today, because of the supporters that are part of the CPO.
I disagree 100% with your last two lines. Our club is nothing without local supporters. If they stop going, or are priced out, they are not going to be magically replaced by other passionate supporters locally ready to swell the ranks, nor the "millions" of supporters we have around the world. Football dies if local support is treated poorly. This club, this league, this game is nothing without local supporters.
 

The supporters were there as part of the CPO. And if we want to be extremely technical about it, Ken Bates did more to save this club than Roman - Roman built upon what was there. Regardless, there would still be a Chelsea Football Club playing football at Stamford Bridge, albeit it with the chance it's not as successful as the one we know today, because of the supporters that are part of the CPO.
I disagree 100% with your last two lines. Our club is nothing without local supporters. If they stop going, or are priced out, they are not going to be magically replaced by other passionate supporters locally ready to swell the ranks, nor the "millions" of supporters we have around the world. Football dies if local support is treated poorly. This club, this league, this game is nothing without local supporters.
 

I cannot agree. As Jezz says below, 'good things from his perspective.'

One can express gratitude for what we've won on the pitch, what has been built in term of brand, player and infrastructure improvements, but that doesn't solve existing issues with which many supporters are still frustrated:
The lying/hiring of Rafa. The cronyism in the upper levels of directorship (Marina, Tenenbaum, Emenalo.) The underground attempt to buy out the CPO. The expensive ticketing pricing. Failure on many supporters' primary concerns  for any new stadium when built.
Even though I'm not native to the UK, thee issues concern me greatly - as a Chelsea supporter, as a CPO shareholder, member of the CST. As someone who recognizes there's more to football than football, and witnesses the power of our community daily.

It would be great to have an area for standing at the re-built Bridge. When the club did presentations last year about the proposed re-development a number of people asked if there were plans to have a standing area and the answer was no. But things can change in a year.
Here is an article from the Football Supporters Federation about Safe Standing.
http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/

The good outweighs the bad. I think he's made massive errors over the years, but he's always done it in the best interests of the club from his perspective. 
 
I can't doubt his passion for the club, but I still have ongoing concerns about his ability to make this club even better.

I hear this every week, about Mourinho screwing up one thing or another, be it KDB, Lukaku, Mata, now the fullback situation.
The manager's job is to win, and he did that handily, and when that happened I didn't hear any of the whining that I do now. It's only now, after the fact, that people want to play revisionist history and blame all of our problems on Mourinho.
It should be quite obvious at this point with the longer sample size that Mourinho got more out of this side that it should have delivered, as the majority of the same players have turned in the same/worse form for two different managers now not named Jose Mourinho.

If anyone deserves the majority of blame regarding personnel decisions, look at the technical director and the board members, none of whom have changed in recent seasons while a variety of managers with different styles and preferences have inhabited the managerial (now first team head coach) role. They are the stewards that should be looking after the long-term future of the club - does anyone seriously rate them doing so?

 

I hear this every week, about Mourinho screwing up one thing or another, be it KDB, Lukaku, Mata, now the fullback situation.
The manager's job is to win, and he did that handily, and when that happened I didn't hear any of the whining that I do now. It's only now, after the fact, that people want to play revisionist history and blame all of our problems on Mourinho.
It should be quite obvious at this point with the longer sample size that Mourinho got more out of this side that it should have delivered, as the majority of the same players have turned in the same/worse form for two different managers now not named Jose Mourinho.

If anyone deserves the majority of blame regarding personnel decisions, look at the technical director and the board members, none of whom have changed in recent seasons while a variety of managers with different styles and preferences have inhabited the managerial (now first team head coach) role. They are the stewards that should be looking after the long-term future of the club - does anyone seriously rate them doing so?

 

I hear this every week, about Mourinho screwing up one thing or another, be it KDB, Lukaku, Mata, now the fullback situation.
The manager's job is to win, and he did that handily, and when that happened I didn't hear any of the whining that I do now. It's only now, after the fact, that people want to play revisionist history and blame all of our problems on Mourinho.
It should be quite obvious at this point with the longer sample size that Mourinho got more out of this side that it should have delivered, as the majority of the same players have turned in the same/worse form for two different managers now not named Jose Mourinho.

If anyone deserves the majority of blame regarding personnel decisions, look at the technical director and the board members, none of whom have changed in recent seasons while a variety of managers with different styles and preferences have inhabited the managerial (now first team head coach) role. They are the stewards that should be looking after the long-term future of the club - does anyone seriously rate them doing so?

 

I hear this every week, about Mourinho screwing up one thing or another, be it KDB, Lukaku, Mata, now the fullback situation.
The manager's job is to win, and he did that handily, and when that happened I didn't hear any of the whining that I do now. It's only now, after the fact, that people want to play revisionist history and blame all of our problems on Mourinho.
It should be quite obvious at this point with the longer sample size that Mourinho got more out of this side that it should have delivered, as the majority of the same players have turned in the same/worse form for two different managers now not named Jose Mourinho.

If anyone deserves the majority of blame regarding personnel decisions, look at the technical director and the board members, none of whom have changed in recent seasons while a variety of managers with different styles and preferences have inhabited the managerial (now first team head coach) role. They are the stewards that should be looking after the long-term future of the club - does anyone seriously rate them doing so?

 

... He made PFA PL team of the year

I mean yeah, if you forgot every previous time Baba played.

In defense of Emenalo, he's not going to sack himself. I applaud him trying to resign a few years ago, and shame on Roman and the board not accepting it.
But he's not qualified for this job at all, and neither are any of the board members. Speak of the devil, here's Marco's write up this morning on ESPN...
 
"Exasperated supporters raged about the glaring deficiencies of Emenalo's CV and many pointed their fingers of blame for Mourinho's cataclysmic demise at the Nigerian, who was brought into the club as a scout in 2007 by former manager Avram Grant -- another Abramovich hire with a questionable football pedigree. At the time of joining Chelsea, Emenalo said the chance of working for Grant was "a wonderful soccer education -- like studying for your PhD at Harvard".
Emenalo's comment bordered on the ridiculous even then. Now it reads like a laughable example of the "it's not what you know, it's who you know," culture that has pervaded Chelsea since Abramovich bought the club in 2003. Currently pulling the boardroom strings is Marina Granovskaia, who previously worked for the Russian at Abramovich's oil company Sibneft, where the head of corporate finance was Eugene Tenenbaum -- another trusted consultant at SW6  -- alongside Chelsea chairman Bruce Buck, a corporate lawyer who worked on the deal to sell 72 percent of Sibneft to Gazprom in 2005."

He has made more errors than usual when you're not part of a drilled unit it is bound to rub off on you. 

He's super talented but he's not that ambitious which holding him back a little..  The only defence I can give now is since he joined us, he's yet to play in an attacking set up, all the managers he has/had at chelsea play a style that doesn't really suit him... Can't help but thinking that he would reach his potential had he join a team like barcelona or city right now..

So he blames the defense for the defeats which is true, but it's not his job to comment and not in public as he is not the manager. I didn't notice him step up against Liverpool or Arsenal? Poor in both games, and don't give me the it was too late to turn things around. It was but his presence was not noticed, Costa for example was great in both games even though he was marked very well in both games.
No excuses Eden time for you to step up (after that disaster from lasts season)

It's the same story with Hazard every time things get tough, he goes missing. So many were saying the reason his form was so poor last season was because of injuries. I have never really bought into that excuse though.

I think his worst habit is opening his mouth to the press every few weeks

hey and not to mention Jose said is the club's policy to have 'sell one buy one' which everyone knows is a stupid and idiot policy
as a big team you should keep as many good players as possible and rarely sell them to your rivals, but what can you do when Roman said you can only sell before you buy right?

Yes allocate all the good that happened to Emenalo and all the bad that happened to Mourinho. Boring and Sad...