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Michael Owen said on MOTD he thought Torres was now "angry" with "a point to prove". WRONG! He was angry before, now he's happy, and enjoying his football. JM makes people happy, that's his skill. Ask the tea ladies at Inter.

I thought that this article (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/oct/28/chelsea-fernando-torres-jose-mourinho?) was a great piece of work. No cliché's about "is he back", more of an analysis of Torres' "new" role as an enforcer, a guard dog, a decoy and a creator for our "fragile little trio" behind the striker (a role that was arguably meant for Rooney).
 
He's not the old Torres with an acceleration beyond belief on a white guy (but still quick *enough*), but his performances against Speds, (Swindon), partially Schalke and yesterday was as good and dominant as you'll get them from a lone striker up front in my opinion. Hopefully he can keep it up!

We are never getting back the Fernando Torres of Liverpool. We have the Fernando Torres of Chelsea.
If he keeps playing like he is playing now. And can reinvent his career from here on out, Liverpool days would only be a feint memory.
Let's hope his legacy that he leaves will be painted in blue.

In fairness to Quinn, Torres was pretty good during that season a few years back when he scored 94 Premier League goals.
 
With regards to yesterday, Torres was a bit of a w**ker, for almost 90 minutes.  I remember when we played against Liverplod a few years back he would spend 90 minutes winding Terry up and having off the ball battles with CBs on a regular basis - he used to piss me off to no end.  I think yesterday that must have been exactally how City fans were feeling - and that makes me very happy.
 
Not that I think he's been useless since coming to Chelsea, but yesterday's game was by far his most effective all round performance for us.  I loved seeing him face a bit of adversity, and bounce straight back, and used any negative that happened yesterday to drive him on.  I know many times people have speculated on occassion whether he has come back, and whilst I don't think we'll see the same type of Torres we did before the transfer, there is the potential for a new type of Torres to flourish, with the support of the manager/team and with this new role which he seems to be relishing.
 
I do regret not clicking the 'bet' button on Thursday when I was going to have a few quid on him at top league scorer at 125/1.  It is early days yet, however that performance has been built to over the course of the season to date - and long may the ascendancy continue.

Give it a break, we won 4 games in a row, he scored a couple of goals, why is it after every match the focus is on him (and Mikel) only? Fortunately Mikel didnt play much yesterday, otherwise the Mikel thread would be flooded with calls to sack him after another unnoticed performance. Look at the bigger picture, rather than scrutinise individual players every match, it's getting tedious.

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When he plays poorly then fair criticism is ok. When he plays well, give him praise. Its as simple as that, the fact that quite a few on here just cant bring themselves to praise him no matter what he does is whats annoying. goes for Mikel too.

Well said. Its like everyone always has to find something to complain about.
Get over it already. The team hasnt even hit top gear and we are sitting pretty in the league and Europe. Meanwhile, Torres is chipping in goals at a (for his time at Chelsea) vastly improved rate, and (far more importantly in my view) when we are humming offensively out there he is combining superbly with Mata, Hazard and Oscar.
When the four of them hit form they are mesmerizing to watch. Before, when we couldnt score, the knocks on Torres not getting it done were far more understandable. But when our offense is running rings around other teams, and the goals are flying in, it doesnt matter much to me who is putting the ball in the net most often.

The POINT is that every player screws up, no matter how good they are.
Messi missed a penalty against us in the semi final last year. Ronaldo missed his penalty in RM's semi final last year. Half of the Bayern team missed their penalties in the final.
If Torres was wasteful against Arsenal, what do you read out of our other players? Torres' in-efficiency can't be blamed alone without discussing the other players dis-functionality.
As I said, Torres should have scored against Nordsjælland. He will be livid with himself, but even on a bad day he still created two (three if you count the PK for the second goal) goals, the first one arguably the most important for the match.
That's a decent performance for me, in a match where no one was really gelling.

Well.
It could of course be that most Chelsea supporters are tired of the media (and our own supporters, by the look of this thread) slagging our players, managers, supporters and team all the time, and therefor feel a responsibility to defend ourselves (of course within rational limits...).
At least that's the way I feel it.

Ok how about this. Away to Nordsjaelland, Torres put in a very decent, if not spectactular performance. Ok he didn't score, and on a couple of occasions looked reluctant to shoot. Having said that, he made a valuable contribution, both to the overall team performance and to the result.
Sure we paid £50 million for him. And at that price he's an easy target, every failure is magnified out of all proportion. Every game in which he fails to score is made out to be a crisis, further evidence of his continuing decline. Was he worth the money? Not a chance? But neither is he anywhere near as poor a player as many would have us believe.
We are not and never will be Torres FC, any more than we were Drogba FC, or even way back when, Peter Osgood FC. So if we win and Torres makes a positive contribution without hitting the back of the net, then it's all well and good. It's all too easy to concentrate on the negatives, even more so when the media have been hammering on about Torres', regurgitating the self-same cliche'd nonsense week in week out.
And please don't anyone dare tell me I'm a Torres apologist. That's one thing I am not, let alone a Torres "fanboy". Simply put, Torres is our player, and as such he is not beyond criticism - far from it - but I will endeavour to concentrate on the positives, especially when, in my opinion, those positives outweigh the negatives.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

One of the biggest pricks to ever enter the Premier League has something (very) smart to say. Wouldn't have thought that five years ago.
Even Phil Thompson (the man who had his nose replaced by his cock, and his brain replaced by his ass) was full of praise for Torres, and I find it difficult that the anti-Chelsea pundits salutes our striker, whilst our fans thinks his performance was very inconsistent and not enough.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

But that could be said of a lot of our players not just today but this season. It was a great performance today and to win at The Emirates, we can't ask for more. But Mata, Hazard, Oscar and Ramires were all the same today. Plenty of good stuff but all lost the ball and wasted opportunities today. IMO, Torres was actually less wasteful than others today.

Firstly, my hate towards Savage is mostly based on his appearances on the pitch. Where he was a c**t. A proper one as well.
Secondly, how do you define wasteful? He was "only" dispossessed three times playing in a difficult role (lone man up top). Mata was dispossessed 6 times, Oscar 5 times and Ramires 4 times, all in much more critical areas on the pitch. Yes, he probably should have scored that 1 vs 1, but no strikers scores on every opportunity. He also got hindered quite strongly just before his shot (I thought it was a penalty, but we won, so yey). I saw Aguero miss two 100% chances against Fulham, and Van Rapist didn't exactly do well in front of goal against Spuds. I've also seen our very own Drogba miss tons of chances 1 on 1 against the keeper.
I also feel that Torres' goal doesn't get nearly enough credit (except from "just", of all people :)). It was pure football magic. The amount of skill, strength and balance that was required was immense. But you know, it's easier to remember the misses than the goals, huh.

Interesting article on Torres workrate by Robbie Savage http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19770499

Once again, people on here are absolutely gutted Torres did well.