ducavis Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think it's about time David Moyes & Steve Bruce are given a shot at a top 4 team. Both are young and have paid there dues at mid-table clubs & performed admirably with a very little budget. Considering our expected Managerial change supposing Hiddink doesn't take up the job, why not look inside - British instead of going foreign or Dutch (if the Rijkaard rumours are right). It will be a good move in my opinion as long as we give them a fair chance, back them properly & not interfere. Steve Bruce I really like & his scouting network is top notch. Can't remember the last flop he bought. Who else takes a punt on a guy from Colombia, Honduras, Egypt or the Championship. I believe bar Mourinho, he is heir apparent to old red nose. Wigan don't really play boring football & who else could get Bramble playing good. I think he really gets people playing for him & a good long term option Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 bruce has shown a lot of imagination in the transfer market, but beyond that he hasn't shown anything that remarkable, and that's before we get to his past or the fact he's a whining c*nt. his sides are dour and it wasn't long ago birmingham fans were happy to see him leave. moyes is obviously a good manager, but his job has been built on gradual progression and a patient chairman, two thing's he wouldn't have here. also question marks about his buying when it comes to expensive / high profile signings, although fellaini is a good sign. probably an outsider to succeed ferguson, but I feel there are probably better out there for us. first choice would be to keep hiddink, but then there is a chance jose will come back, and beyond that would rather see franco and clarkey or a truly innovative coach like spaletti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 It is not the same to coach a club to survive in the league and to coach a club to win the league. I see Bruce as the survivor-type. It is somewhat easier to have nothing to lose than everything to lose. That is how I see it and I don't see Bruce coaching a top four team anytime soon. I don't know him too well so who am I to say but that is how I feel+he is an old ManU player. Moyes with Clarke as his assistant woudn't be to bad combination IMO but I would rather have Zola with Clarkey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeyMS Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 bruce has shown a lot of imagination in the transfer market, but beyond that he hasn't shown anything that remarkable, and that's before we get to his past or the fact he's a whining c*nt. his sides are dour and it wasn't long ago birmingham fans were happy to see him leave. Oh, I remember that season. Bruce`s Birmingham had a soild squad and still were struggling to perform, that led to Birmingham relegation. Talking about British managers I would prefer Sparky to return to Stamford Bridge, don`t you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Oh, I remember that season. Bruce`s Birmingham had a soild squad and still were struggling to perform, that led to Birmingham relegation.Talking about British managers I would prefer Sparky to return to Stamford Bridge, don`t you? You are joking, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeyMS Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 You are joking, right? His Blackburn side had a decent times with him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexelk Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 tbh my 1st choice, above Hiddink and Mourinho would be Zola with Clarke If british then I have to admit I think Hughes is probably the best but he seems to have adopted a crap style/formation not to disimilar to our own so next please And not Moyes, Everton are the most boring team in the premiership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola's Love Child Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 His Blackburn side had a decent times with him.... Plus the good job he did with Wales. But even with that, I wouldn't want him at the Bridge. Out of the growing British managers I would be looking for Moyes over Bruce or any of the others. Moyes has been solid at Everton, and has done alright in the transfer market, with some fairly limited funds. He hasn't had many busts though, and looks to be a fair judge of talent. That said, I'm not sure if he leaves Everton or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandblue Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Bruce is nowhere near good enough, not even close, Hughes has been found out and needs to restart his career at a "lesser" club, O'Neal is unproven and unconsitant. Moyes is head and shoulders above them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Bruce is nowhere near good enough, not even close, Hughes has been found out and needs to restart his career at a "lesser" club, O'Neal is unproven and unconsitant. Moyes is head and shoulders above them all. Bruce has been a decent manager but I don't really want the next Chelsea boss to have a nose like a vacant Wellington boot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandblue Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 it would be all he had in common with Scollari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 it would be all he had in common with Scollari. But Scolari's clipped off with his moustache :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerie Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't give a monkey's about the nationality of our next manager, I just want him (or her :D ) to be an established name. None of that nonsense about "giving someone a chance" either, we're not a charity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't give a monkey's about the nationality of our next manager, I just want him (or her :D ) to be an established name. None of that nonsense about "giving someone a chance" either, we're not a charity! Like Scolari was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUENUT Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) Like Scolari was? My choice: Hiddink - stay if he can. Jose Mourinho - to finish what he started, but it won't happen. Zola / Clarke - more sentiment than judgement - both still learning at West Ham, so won't happen this summer for sure. MarK Hughes - again probably more sentiment, but he's a good manager when left to manage, he's had trouble at City though takeovers and interference, I think it'd be the same here with Roman. Big Phil - to sell Chelsea lottery tickets in a knitted blue and white overcoat. 'C'mon get your Chelsea lottery tickets'' George Graham - you can stick George Graham, stick George Graham, stick George Graham up your arse - sideways. To be honest I haven't got a f*cking clue who it's going to be but rest assured the club already know! Edited March 31, 2009 by BLUENUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't think sparky has been found out, but he's had a pretty poor season. despite that I'm sure they'll improve and they could still win something for the first time in decades. don't think he can argue about his board at all. I think his reputation has been dented (to the point where he is unlikely to be in the running for the top jobs), but not yet broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerie Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 QUOTE (Valerie @ Mar 31 2009, 14:42 PM) I don't give a monkey's about the nationality of our next manager, I just want him (or her ) to be an established name. None of that nonsense about "giving someone a chance" either, we're not a charity! Like Scolari was? Amendment: we want an ironclad guarantee for success! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midlandblue Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I don't think sparky has been found out, but he's had a pretty poor season. despite that I'm sure they'll improve and they could still win something for the first time in decades. don't think he can argue about his board at all.I think his reputation has been dented (to the point where he is unlikely to be in the running for the top jobs), but not yet broken. to say they will improve proves very little, they have world class players and at very least they should be pushing for a EUFA Cup spot. As for Hughe's managerial skills, you have to ask can he handle the big names, sure he manged well at "smaller" clubs and also for his country, but he was a BIG name there himself and the palyers knew him and knew about his career as a player and respected him for that.....not so sure if his currrent squad have the same respectfor him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virosh Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 ....To be honest I haven't got a f*cking clue who it's going to be but rest assured the club already know! This has always been my escape from baseless guessing. We can talk about it all we want, but I'm sure the management don't just sit comfortably on their bottoms and have got it figured out. Rest assured, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I hate to say it, but that's what Manure did with Rednose. He was a young manager at the time, had a shocker of a first season, but they gave him a chance, at look where that got them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I think Mike O should be given a chance even if it just means he gets to wear his hat again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 (edited) I hate to say it, but that's what Manure did with Rednose. He was a young manager at the time, had a shocker of a first season, but they gave him a chance, at look where that got them? Sadly, those days are gone. Back in 86 or whenver that was there wasnt nearly the kind of precarious reliance on money there is now. Clubs of our calibre and wage packet just cant afford to finish outside the CL, and any manager that comes in is going to need to be capable of at least challenging right away. Obviously, thats why the club didnt wait with LFS to get rid. But in principle, RBJ, I totally agree I am not worried about style points for the next manager. I think Moyes is a great motivator, and given the the resources to get some more skillful players in there, I am sure his sides would look better. Hughes, despite his Man City misadventures, I would still take. But I realize the ownership structure and board at this club would never want to take a risk of repeating this season, by appointing a manager who looks great at a smaller club, but may or may not have us challenging for the title. Hiddink, all things considered, represents my number one of available managers. This, barring a return for Jose (which I think is pure fantasy) is the only real positive outcome of the managerial search for me. Sadly, it will probably be back to the drawing board in the summer, in which case I hope it isnt Rijkaard Edited March 31, 2009 by TheWestwayWonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Dan Petrescu would fit the bill nicely for me. I think he'd be a resounding success but can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueday3 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Apart from the inevitable return of Jose, and the less inevitable stay of Hiddink, I would also like to see Zola and Clarke. If the necessary changes to the squad are made, I think we can afford to give Zola some time as I think the squad would be good enough to keep itself in the top 4 regardless of manager. The only problem is that changes will probably not be made until a manager is in place, who may or may not see the need for said changes. I think that it would be worth it to have a couple sub-par years if Zola and Clarke could deliver successful years afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Amendment: we want an ironclad guarantee for success! :P Ah well, that's OK then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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