Indeed, no English gentleman would refer to his lady love as "my bird" either! :D

I would and feel perfectly within my rights to do so..

Her name's Lisa Bird ;)

and a right funny bird it is an all boys :D

Edited March 26, 201016 yr by Chippy

So you can vouch for the fact that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?

young ladies these days have less of a bush, allegedly.

I'm way too old to know from first-hand experience

Are you a British expatriot living in the States? No American would ever use the word "bird" in that sense.

No, blame it on all that footie I watch with expatriates. And Phillip, now you can never use that last sentence again!

Indeed, no English gentleman would refer to his lady love as "my bird" either! ;)

Over here you'll hear "my old lady" (or man) which is also a bit condescending.

I originally wrote "My irreplacable heart guardian", then "love receptacle", but then just went with "bird".

Over here you'll hear "my old lady" (or man) which is also a bit condescending.

I originally wrote "My irreplacable heart guardian", then "love receptacle", but then just went with "bird".

"My old lady" in London means "my mother". "My old woman" means my wife. "My old man" means either father or husband. None of them are condescending. "My old dear" also means "my mother".

Not just confined to London.

Not just confined to London.

This is true. Sorry, Mod. And would you agree that it is not seen as being condescending?

Good one, Modulus Prime!

And Moi, one cannot "see" condescencion...

Edited March 26, 201016 yr by ThunderDan

Good one, Modulus Prime!

And Moi, one cannot "see" condescencion...

ThunderDan - we clearly don't speak the same English.

In English (by which I mean proper English), the passive "to be seen as" means "to be regarded as"

We also have this phrase: Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs!

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We also have this phrase: Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs!

That has been updated to reflect the greed of modern society.

It is now ' Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs, unless you are her agent.'

That has been updated to reflect the greed of modern society.

It is now ' Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs, unless you are her agent.'

Are you applying for the position?

My grandmother would have been too busy

1. Cheating at cards

2. Falling down manholes

3. Telling tall tales

4. Scratching her head

to waste her time being one of my clients.

ThunderDan - we clearly don't speak the same English.

Perhaps not so different.

I saw my mistake regarding "seeing". Don't blame us for non-proper English, it was just me typing before thinking...

i finally got round to watching "cass" last week, and i actually thought it was a really good film. it follows his life from an early age, how he endured racial prejudice at school and from west ham fans, and later a different kind of prejudice when he went inside for the newcastle episode.

the fight scenes were more realistic than awaydays or green street, but does so without glorifying the violence. the film also manages to capture the feeling of belonging that comes with being part of a mob, which is undoubtedly a big part of the attraction for a lot of hooligans.

the film also covers the negative effects of his involvement with the ICF away from football, on his marriage, his work and on his adoptive parents. what comes across ultimately is the realisation that hooliganism, and in particular violence, is a mug's game. in cass's case, it very nearly cost him his life.

Watched "Pride & Prejudice" from 1995 (It's not really a movie, I know). Had forgotten just how brilliant that is.

Finally got round to watching Gran Torino....thoroughly enjoyed it, if that was Clint's swansong a good film to bow out on....

I enjoyed Gran Torino. It was a bit predictable but well acted nevertheless.

Watched Body of Lies over the weekend. Won't win any awards but was enjoyable. It was probably trying to make some deep point about the American involvement in Iraq and the Middle East generally, but I didn't let that spoil it.

La vita è bella(Life is Beautiful) was on the telly today and I decided to give it another try to see if I missed something or if I was in the wrong mood(or something) when I watched it the first time(when it first came out), but it did absolutely nothing for me second time around. Which is surprising as on paper(based on everything I've read about it) it seems like a movie that I should like, but there's just something about the way Benigni presents his story that doesn't feel genuine or honest. I know it's supposed to be some sort of grim fairy tale for adults and I like both whimsical and dark, but it just failed to get me emotionally involved. In parts it was blunt as a hammer and in parts it was very subtle, so I just wasn't sure what the movie was trying be. All I know is that it just doesn't seem like it's my kind of a movie.

I finally saw Papillon a couple of days ago. Been meaning to watch it for several years.

Must say that even though there were a few things I wanted explanations for I really liked it.

La vita è bella(Life is Beautiful) was on the telly today and I decided to give it another try to see if I missed something or if I was in the wrong mood(or something) when I watched it the first time(when it first came out), but it did absolutely nothing for me second time around. Which is surprising as on paper(based on everything I've read about it) it seems like a movie that I should like, but there's just something about the way Benigni presents his story that doesn't feel genuine or honest. I know it's supposed to be some sort of grim fairy tale for adults and I like both whimsical and dark, but it just failed to get me emotionally involved. In parts it was blunt as a hammer and in parts it was very subtle, so I just wasn't sure what the movie was trying be. All I know is that it just doesn't seem like it's my kind of a movie.

Could it also have been the way Benigni acted? I know lots of people don't like the character. He's just too over the top I guess.

Personally I love that movie. Probably one of my 10 favourite movies.

La vita è bella(Life is Beautiful)In parts it was blunt as a hammer and in parts it was very subtle, so I just wasn't sure what the movie was trying be.

"When this war is over, we should open an anvil factory." I loved it, but it comes from a strange corner of cinema history, the Holocaust comedy.

I understand that there is a Jewish tradition of dealing with trauma through humor, although I caution that I'm in unfamiliar territory here. I do know of 2 other films that tried this tightrope. "Jakob the Liar" with Robin Williams is one. "The Day the Clown Cried" is a film that was completed by that weirdo Jerry Lewis, but never released. It is said that he has the only prints and screens it at home for his friends.

Don't forget Hogan's Heroes. Also a play called "Warsaw Ghetto", which I think was a London production...

Edited April 1, 201016 yr by ThunderDan

I loved it, but it comes from a strange corner of cinema history, the Holocaust comedy.

I just didn't find most of the comedic elements very funny and the big problem is that I don't find Benigni's character very likable, which is not a good thing in a movie like this. I think Emir Kusturica is quite successful in creating a "historical fairy tale" with his movie Underground. It's not about the holocaust, but I think it is far more successful in the way it looks at traumatic historical events through humor and in the way it uses fairy tale like elements(very common for Kusturica).

Pan's Labyrinth is on channel 4 later tonight. If you haven't seen that I strongly recommend you tune in after watching highlights of today's game on MOTD

Sherlock Holmes, what a bloody good film!

Almosr went for that, but saw "The Book of Eli" instead, It was really fantastic and Denzel was great as always...

Almosr went for that, but saw "The Book of Eli" instead, It was really predictable and Denzel was wooden as always...

There, fixed that for ya