Lamps burning bright again

[ws6blue]

bit of slow burn this season for our frank but he's coming good at the right time, last 5 minutes yesterday he was bursting forward 1 box to the other and his all round game back on song.............plenty tackles and interceptions and passing

goal tally heading for 20 again and you wouldn't put it past him to get a goal in a final (not tempting fate I hope)

maybe something to do with a settled home-life...............

super franky lampard

[Alex]

your basing his return to form on the "last 5 minutes".

I dont think this has been his best season at all, but at the same time other big players havent performed and have been worse.

But heres to a return to form for all our boys for the run in.

[The Moos]

Just read some stats about Lampard and it's quite interesting really.

We have complained about Lamps not being at his best and having an off season, but he has scored 23 goals so far and that is equal to his best season since he came here. He also has 13 assists, which isn't bad. He has had better only three times before and this season isn't over yet so he can still get a few more.

So while not perhaps being mr perfect on the pitch, he still score and set up goals like before (even better perhaps).

[Gilvorak]

He's only scored 9 from open play this season + six penalties.

His scoring rate has improved since January (8 in 12 games) even though his finishing isn't as good as it was a few years ago.

His passing has been woeful so far this season IMO compared to last season which was his best season imo.

Needs to work on his final ball but glad to see his picking up some form into the crucial stage of the season. :P

[german-blue]

In my opinion Lampard has been rather bad for most parts of the season. Until the Sunderland game he didnt score from open play at all and not only that he is also anonymous in many many matches. His excellent finishing which is one of his major assets has been shocking compared to his best seasons. Now kill me for that but only because your name is Frank Lampard you shouldnt be judged any different compared to your teammates

[hennerzcfc]

he has scored when it matters and 20+ goals a season is good for a forward

[L Essien]

Hi everyone,

Is just me? have you noticed how poor is frank playing? Alright 15 goals this season, but his overall play as midfield player is not good enough. He misses plenty plenty of passes every game, then we he receives the ball it takes 4 seconds before he takes a decision, he used to be quicker than that. Dont come with ballack now guys, we are talking about our 2 more important players Terry and Lamps, and I think both have problems out of the field, one for his affairs the second for his time with his new girlfriend. Frank come on if we are to win the premier league we need you in midfield at your best, specially because essien who knows when he will come back.

Sorry Frank, I will be the first one in hail your performances and the first one critical, why? easy u earn top money, best one along Terry and that means both of U have to show why. Like Ronaldo at Madrid. Important games we look and expect more from our stars so where u were yesterday, I didnt see U in the whole game. We needed you against Inter to help us create something in midfield, but you werent.

Thats all guys. I expect critics as I know he is a special player for Chelsea, but I think this season he is being poor apart from the usual shots and goals.

Edited March 18, 2010 by L Essien

[Cam]

There's no doubt this season hasn't been up to his normal standards, and that's not good, but I refuse to believe the Franky we all know and love has gone. I think part of it is just bad form, which will be overturned eventually, but I also think he will shine more in a midfield that functions properly, meaning he needs other players around him, like Essien, to make it all seem easier and more fluent.

[Maverick]

Sorry Frank, I will be the first one in hail your performances and the first one critical, why? easy u earn top money, best one along Terry and that means both of U have to show why. Like Ronaldo at Madrid. Important games we look and expect more from our stars so where u were yesterday, I didnt see U in the whole game. We needed you against Inter to help us create something in midfield, but you werent.

Thats all guys. I expect critics as I know he is a special player for Chelsea, but I think this season he is being poor apart from the usual shots and goals.

The football pitch is quite big if you have ever been to a game and Frank alone cannot marshall it. He looks a different player with Essien and even Deco at times playing with him in the midfield. The problem with the Midfield triangle of Mikel, Ballack and Lampard is that Frank is not only thrusted with the responsibility of creating but also the load of setting the tempo. Its a very big task to ask of him to do the whole of it, with Essien alongside him the tempo is more or less taken care of and with Deco the little cheeky and creative passes come to life. The problem with Mikel and Ballack is neither can carry the ball or sustain a high tempo in the game. Without any assistance its close to impossible to expect him to deliver each and every time. I am not denying the fact that he was poor against Inter but it is clear that this is not the midfield that is suitable to him.

Edited March 18, 2010 by Maverick

[L Essien]

The football pitch is quite big if you have ever been to a game and Frank alone cannot marshall it. He looks a different player with Essien and even Deco at times playing with him in the midfield. The problem with the Midfield triangle of Mikel, Ballack and Lampard is that Frank is not only thrusted with the responsibility of creating but also the load of setting the tempo. Its a very big task to ask of him to do the whole of it, with Essien alongside him the tempo is more or less taken care of and with Deco the little cheeky and creative passes come to life. The problem with Mikel and Ballack is neither can carry the ball or sustain a high tempo in the game. Without any assistance its close to impossible to expect him to deliver each and every time. I am not denying the fact that he was poor against Inter but it is clear that this is not the midfield that is suitable to him.

To Maverick:

Your response says it all. Lampard without Essien is not as good as when he is. Mate this is not a malicious coment is just to remind to you, that Essien is the truly great player we have in midfield, of course I know Frank cant do it on his own, but eh, eh, this season he misses a lot of passses, u dont earn that money running around, just running, they pay him top money because at chelsea we believe he is our creative player, This season he is being poor, lets see what changes will be made next season, on current form I doubth he will keep his place next season.

[L Essien]

To Maverick:

Your response says it all. Lampard without Essien is not as good as when he is. Mate this is not a malicious coment is just to remind to you, that Essien is the truly great player we have in midfield, of course I know Frank cant do it on his own, but eh, eh, this season he misses a lot of passses, u dont earn that money running around, just running, they pay him top money because at chelsea we believe he is our creative player, This season he is being poor, lets see what changes will be made next season, on current form I doubth he will keep his place next season.

To end it this argument, my best chelsea players of the season:

1- Ivanovic

2- Drogba

3- Malouda

4- Ashley Cole

[ethicalstrategy]

To end it this argument...

May as well lock this thread then.

[Maverick]

To Maverick:

Your response says it all. Lampard without Essien is not as good as when he is. Mate this is not a malicious coment is just to remind to you, that Essien is the truly great player we have in midfield, of course I know Frank cant do it on his own, but eh, eh, this season he misses a lot of passses, u dont earn that money running around, just running, they pay him top money because at chelsea we believe he is our creative player, This season he is being poor, lets see what changes will be made next season, on current form I doubth he will keep his place next season.

Did I ever deny that Essien is not a great player? I'd suggest you comprehend my earlier post before we take this ahead.

Since you have had a go at Lampsy let us look at some stats here -

2006/07 - 21 goals and 16 assists

2007/08 - 16 goals and 11 assists

2008/09 - 20 goals and 19 assists

2009/10 - 17 goals and 12 assists

With close a dozen games to be played I am sure he will match the figures he achieved in the earlier seasons. What do you have to say now?

[loz]

Stats never tell the whole story. I think the vast majority of Chelsea fans will acknowledge that Lamps has rarely been at his best this season although you have to factor in that his best has been stunning and so a drop doesn't necessarily mean he has been poor - it is just that he has set such high standards in the past.

[Maverick]

Stats never tell the whole story. I think the vast majority of Chelsea fans will acknowledge that Lamps has rarely been at his best this season although you have to factor in that his best has been stunning and so a drop doesn't necessarily mean he has been poor - it is just that he has set such high standards in the past.

I do agree with you on all counts but those stats are not as bad as they are made out to be. Yes he has set high standards for himself but I am confident he will step up very soon.

[ducavis]

I know I will get slagged off in a min but giving him a lengthy contract was a bad bad idea. He is 31 now with 3 years to go on his contract, with his legend status already confirmed we should have given him a 2 year contract.

As it stands now except sentiments come into play, I expect him to be on the peripheral after the world cup but with the wages he is on & influence is this feasible?

[Maverick]

As it stands now except sentiments come into play, I expect him to be on the peripheral after the world cup but with the wages he is on & influence is this feasible?

Let alone a midfielder, get me a striker that guarantees 20 goals and costs less than 40 million in the current transfer market and we can take this ahead. Do the Mathematics and you'll have the answer and once you are through with it you may not bother responding to this post is my guess.

[Mikstaw]

It's a bad season for Lampard. He played some brilliant games, some game hopeless. In the majority of games he plays like drunk person!!

[ducavis]

Let alone a midfielder, get me a striker that guarantees 20 goals and costs less than 40 million in the current transfer market and we can take this ahead. Do the Mathematics and you'll have the answer and once you are through with it you may not bother responding to this post is my guess.

I get your point and take nothing away from Frank. A bit off topic, with Frank's passing range and vision cant he play the pirlo role- a deep lying playmaker.

David Villa will guarantee goals and should be under 40m but we need someone younger

[TheWestwayWonder]

May as well lock this thread then.

Please do. Its weird to see a directly addressed rant like this, as if Frank posts here.

Nor do I really see the point the poster is trying to make. I think its : Frank has been one of our best players but has looked off the pace this year (widely acknowledged) and maybe its because he is spending too much time with his girlfriend (with another sly dig at another player's private life, as if the media havent done this enough already). Furthermore, he should be better at what he does becuase he gets paid alot. And on a night when the whole team was sh*te, he failed to win the game for us.

Cant fathom that the belief has ebbed away from some people so quicky. A few bad games and we're suddenly in the sh*tter and we need to gut the whole team. I can think of a few players we might be getting that could improve us right away: Petr Cech, Michael Essien and Ashley Cole

Edited March 18, 2010 by TheWestwayWonder

[L Essien]

To Maverick:

Sorry,I couldnt reply you before. Lets talk about Frank Lampard:

1- Season I think if I am not wrong 2004-05, did U see the influence he made against Barca? The famous words of mourinho talking aboout the best midfield in the world, and lets not forget it, He was silver ball, that is quite an achivement!, now the Uefa, me and the people that choses the Ball d'or, they must be silly, as they cant see Lampard even in the top ten. Look, to me Frank, is a good player , for moments a very good one, however not because he is a legend at chelsea, I have to be blind and not say what I see just because is Frank Lampard. Look the other day even Capello sent him to the shower at half time, in the England match. So I am not here to hail or to be critical for the shake of it with Lamps, is just the reality. Someone made a very good point about Thuesday night, where he was?, the point about getting such high wages is because You expect this guy and terry to impose themselves on difficult situations, when the team needs him Is easy to make an impact against Stoke but not that easy against Inter Milan ( away and at home), Barcelona last season both games, the star was Essien, these are the kind of moments when U expect something more of a star. Is like at Madrid, people expect ronaldo to score, to make a difference, for that reason he gets paid that money, for that reason they invest that money. When there is a problem everyone look at the important players, no the kalous etc.

This is not a rant against Lampard, this is serious reflection on his games this season and ... some of most important Chelsea games last season. The Sun uses Drogba as the guilty one, always, but I am not like that.

I guess a Barca supporter expects always more in messi, iniesta, xabi, at real madrid, u look for ronaldo, Kaka ( a disgrace so far) hehe, at United Fletcher, Rooney, at Arsenal Cesc, here at Chelsea, DRogba, Lampard, Terry. specially these three. This is what it is a star, people will always look at you.

[Maverick]

I get your point and take nothing away from Frank. A bit off topic, with Frank's passing range and vision cant he play the pirlo role- a deep lying playmaker.

Passing is just one of the many strengths to Lampard's game. Why would you want to curb his other strengths such as an eye for goal or his movement and his ability to get into goal scoring positions. I would'nt like him in that role as it restricts his game to a large extent.

David Villa will guarantee goals and should be under 40m but we need someone younger

Not is guaranteed in this league when you come at an age of 28 or more, you can ask Mr.Shevchenko. :)

Edited March 19, 2010 by Maverick

[moi]

Question for L. Essien: What do you do with all the time you save by writing U instead of you?

[L Essien]

:D :D. I am agree with you german, I disagree with the rest of you. I must not a real frank fan,If I was i would be watching something which is exactly what you see.

You just go to stadistics and say hmmm, lets see how many goals did he score, lets see how many assists, and you come back here, and say,... mmmm... brilliant season from Lampard.

I disagree.

He is not the only one playing bad... he is just one of them.

Edited March 23, 2010 by L Essien

[icecoolguy22]

He scored some goals, but in too many games he was not present. One or two shots on goal per match is just not good enough, we and himself expect a lot more.