Hutch Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 from the mirror: Chelsea starlet poised to join Steve McClaren's Wolfsburg Chelsea's young Dutch dazzler Jeffrey Bruma is ready to sign for Steve McClaren's German champions Wolfsburg - and get his first real taste of the Champions League. Skillful defender Bruma is set to be cleared to join Wolfsburg on loan for the season despite making a rare appearance in the Blues line-up for the opening friendly with Crystal Palace. Bruma was wanted by McClaren when he was at Twente Enschede, but now the former England chief has earmarked him as one of his key captures in his new post in the Bundesliga. The talented 18-year-old is not rated ready for double-winning Chelsea yet. He wants to play at centre half but is down the queue at Stamford Bridge - he can also play right back but is being groomed for the middle. LINK
Eggy McMuffin Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 This could be another good move for both parties, if it works out. It could be perfect in fact. Terry and Alex as our main centre backs for this season, with Carvalho rotated, then next year, Carvalho leaves, and we'll have ourselves a proven top quality defender to come in and take his place in the squad. I'm all for this, unless Carvalho is leaving... then I'd say we're a bit short at the back, but if he stays, and Bruma goes on loan, we could have ourselves a nice little plan, and a nice little arrangement with McClaren it seems, too. If he keeps getting decent jobs across Europe and keeps loaning a youngster from us in a mutually beneficial way, it could be quite interesting.
Cam Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 I would guess this means Carvalho's not going anywhere...if he is, this isn't a good decision. Then again, I guess Van Aahnholt, Hutchinson and Mancienne might stick around?
rahul Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Up until now these loan deals haven't really worked for us as in none of the players have come back better than we thought they were before the loan. Hope Bruma changes all that.
Cam Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Well...the worst case scenario.... He does well...like Stoch at Twente...he comes back demanding first team football, and we can't offer it to him regularly...so he leaves. That would make me quite angry.
Eggy McMuffin Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Up until now these loan deals haven't really worked for us as in none of the players have come back better than we thought they were before the loan. Hope Bruma changes all that. I disagree. I think Stoch really improved at Twente. Unfortunately he got itchy for first team football, but the point is he improved, and we got a good fee for him, too. I think Bruma might be more willing to bide his time on the bench, on returning, but that's purely speculation as we can never be sure. I think a year on loan for Bruma to mature would be great, especially at as good a club as Wolfsburg, so long as he gets the first team games that is. I think a lot of the problems we've had with players going on loan and not progressing, are more to do with the quality of the player themselves than actually sending them out on loan as a concept. For a defender especially, first team experience is vital, and thus sending them on loan is a good move. For more attacking players it's less important, so they can be blooded in straight away. Kakuta might be an example of that approach. JT went on loan as a younger man, so did A Cole (it's not just a Chelsea thing) and Rio Ferdinand. However you don't see the same approach for say Messi (not that he's the standard), or if you want, Giggs didn't go on loan either. I'm not saying that we should do exactly as was done on other big name players, as each player is different in what they need, but sending Bruma on loan is for my money a better move than sending out Stoch on loan, and I'd still class Stoch as a success.
Maksimov Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Bruma needs to play more matches and keep improving his game and he wouldn't be doing that by sitting on the bench at Chelsea and getting the odd cup game and some reserves matches. Bundesliga is a tough league and if he would be a (at least somewhat) regular starter, I think it could be a brilliant move for Bruma, Bremen and Chelsea.
blizeH Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 I think it's unfair to compare this to the Stoch scenario, sure it's similar in that McLaren is taking on one of our promising players and will hopefully give him a lot of match time, but the key point to the Stoch thing is that he simply wasn't good enough for Chelsea. Bruma on the other hand I would be amazed if we let go.
Maksimov Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 I think it's unfair to compare this to the Stoch scenario, sure it's similar in that McLaren is taking on one of our promising players and will hopefully give him a lot of match time, but the key point to the Stoch thing is that he simply wasn't good enough for Chelsea. Bruma on the other hand I would be amazed if we let go. I agree. When Stoch went on loan last season I said he won't be coming back to Chelsea and I still think it was just a way to put Stoch in a shop window. I think that if Bruma does go on loan and does well, I think he has a much better chance of making into the first team than he would if he stayed at Chelsea, where he wouldn't get to play very often apart from reserves matches.
Eggy McMuffin Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Will he necessarily play at Wolfsburg? I'm sure they'd put that in the terms of the loan?
Maksimov Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 (edited) Will he necessarily play at Wolfsburg? Will he necessarily play at Chelsea? If McClaren wants him there, I assume he's going to use him. At Chelsea he would be third choice at best at the moment, so I think he would get to see more first team action at Wolfsburg than he would see at Chelsea during this season. Edited July 19, 2010 by Maksimov
Granticus Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Chelsea-starlet-Jeffrey-Bruma-poised-to-join-Steve-McClaren-s-Wolfsburg-article530009.html Not sure how I would feel about this one. No doubt that at Wolfsburg he could get more games than here, and maybe even some CL football, but would it be better for him to stay? He'd surely get a few games, if only sub appearances. But there's no doubt that at Wolfsburg he'd be playing for a very competetive club that would be pushing him hard, which would give him some good experience.
Hutch Posted July 19, 2010 Author Posted July 19, 2010 Rubbish rumour how so? it hasn't been confirmed yet but would make sense for reasons that have already been discussed.
charierre Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Chelsea's young Dutch dazzler Jeffrey Bruma is ready to sign for Steve McClaren's German champions Wolfsburg - and get his first real taste of the Champions League. Skillful defender Bruma is set to be cleared to join Wolfsburg on loan for the season despite making a rare appearance in the Blues line-up for the opening friendly with Crystal Palace. Bruma was wanted by McClaren when he was at Twente Enschede, but now the former England chief has earmarked him as one of his key captures in his new post in the Bundesliga. The talented 18-year-old is not rated ready for double-winning Chelsea yet. He wants to play at centre half but is down the queue at Stamford Bridge - he can also play right back but is being groomed for the middle. Mirror Probably a way of bringing him on quicker as long as he doesnt go the same way as Stoch. Wigan boss Roberto Martinez wants to take Chelsea's Argentinian striker Franco Di Santo on loan for the season. The Latics chief wants the talented target man, who spent last season on loan at Blackburn, to join his Latin-quarter squad and team up with fellow countryman Mauro Boselli in his attack. Di Santo is also wanted by Bolton and Dutch pair Feyenoord and Twente Enschede. He is keen to move on and would be interested in a permanent switch. Chelsea are prepared to sell, but they may consider Wigan's request to look first before they buy - with Martinez hoping for a quick answer. Daily Mirror Of what I saw of him on Saturday, I doubt he will ever make the grade with us and its time to cash in on him.
Andreas Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Would be a good deal for both clubs, giving Bruma experience is vital, especially for a defender and he will surley get a lot of playtime over there facing some good opponents. Hope it happens.
TheWestwayWonder Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 These would both be great moves. McClaren is a good coach, and Wolfsburg are stocked with talent so I am sure Bruma will have to fight for his place, but it will be good to compete. Whatever happens at Wigan, nothing can be worse than last year for DiSanto. Getting him playing in a real system, under a Spanish speaking manager, and with an attacking team like Wigan might see him score double digits. Send em on, send em on. We need to clear that logjam of young defenders, and I would like to see Ryan Bertrand brought back full time.
Backbiter Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Rubbish rumour Don't you mean Rubbish Bruma rumour?
TheWestwayWonder Posted July 19, 2010 Posted July 19, 2010 Rubbish rumour Do you have any reasoning for that? I think it would be great. McClaren is a good coach, and Wolfsburg are stocked with talent so I am sure Bruma will have to fight for his place, but it will be good to compete. We need to clear that logjam of young defenders, and I would like to see Ryan Bertrand brought back full time. If this situation means we keep Carvalho for another year, I am not sure its the right move. If Carvalho was on his way out, i assume Bruma wouldve been the natural entrant into the 4 CB rotation.
mad_mac Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I don't have twitter, and I'm not signing up for one. What does his "tweet" say?
Oblivion Posted July 20, 2010 Posted July 20, 2010 I don't have twitter, and I'm not signing up for one. What does his "tweet" say? Says that he hasn't heard much about the loan deal, thinks its mostly rumours, but is hoping its a positive thing.
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