On 17/07/2023 at 20:31, The Rising Sun said:

At Selhurst Park behind the goal , the terrace was at the lower part of the end and the rest of the end going up the back was a grass bank .

I'm the rain  the mud was fecking slippery. I think there may have been grass at the other end too.

I can't seem to be able to post pictures anymore but there must be some out there. 

The Whitehorse End was the away end. Oddly enough my first experience of the power being in the crowd was in there with Fulham fans circa 77- surging and chanting away- a year before first time in the Shed, which was the same sensation magnified. Can’t believe they crammed 51,000 in there when they got promoted in 79.

Stood in the Whitehorse a couple of times in friendlies v Chelsea. One was pre season circa 79- we took the Holmesdale- coming up on the bus we past a church with a Jesus saves sign- someone dobbed underneath “ Yea but Gary Stanley nets the rebound”

Second time was George Graham Testimonial end of season 82 I think. Got me collar felt that night

 

Stood in the Whitehorse a couple of times in friendlies v Chelsea. One was pre season circa 79- we took the Holmesdale- coming up on the bus we past a church with a Jesus saves sign- someone dobbed underneath “ Yea but Gary Stanley nets the rebound”

Second time was George Graham Testimonial end of season 80 I think. Got me collar felt that night

 

5 hours ago, Boyne said:

Found this video which is a review of the 88/89 season. The terraces were closed for the first six games.. Can see fans in the East Stand. As for the picture with Dorigo I wonder if it was a training session. Game against Sunderland was February 1985. A night of carnage. Can't recall fans not being allowed into the ground for games afterwards but could be wrong.

 

I think it was only the Boro trouble that  had the terraces shut as punishment 

Millwall are the champions of ground closures....starting in 1920, then 1934 and 1938 and onwards !

f**king hell ,, decades before hooliganism , I wonder if they were the only ones at it ? Fairly sure they were, but 1920 , then twice in the 1930s ?  Mental f**kers

17 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:

I think it was only the Boro trouble that  had the terraces shut as punishment 

Millwall are the champions of ground closures....starting in 1920, then 1934 and 1938 and onwards !

f**king hell ,, decades before hooliganism , I wonder if they were the only ones at it ? Fairly sure they were, but 1920 , then twice in the 1930s ?  Mental f**kers

I think most of the Den closures going back were for attacking referees and linesman. If you look at the heyday of FV I think Society was more violent then. More fatal youth stabbings now, mostly concerning a certain demographic, but not pub fights like their used to. They were routine- used to happen all the time

Heyday being 70s and 80’s

7 hours ago, Fruit Bat said:

I think most of the Den closures going back were for attacking referees and linesman. If you look at the heyday of FV I think Society was more violent then. More fatal youth stabbings now, mostly concerning a certain demographic, but not pub fights like their used to. They were routine- used to happen all the time

True mate. When I first went to football away fans didn't travel in any numbers and there were no " ends" as such, the Idea of attacking anyone because of who they supported was unthinkable. Shame it didn't stay that way

I used to go to the Locarno in Streatham and mass brawls would break out regularly, the old bill came in with dogs on one occasion.

No CCTV or social media then,  so those events didn't attract any public attention,  apart from those at the venue it went unremarked . It wasn't unusual anyway so I suppose it wasn't even newsworthy...

And you're right , the violence at the Den was against officials and opposing players. 

 

On 19/07/2023 at 16:05, Boyne said:

Found this video which is a review of the 88/89 season. The terraces were closed for the first six games.. Can see fans in the East Stand. As for the picture with Dorigo I wonder if it was a training session. Game against Sunderland was February 1985. A night of carnage. Can't recall fans not being allowed into the ground for games afterwards but could be wrong.

 

Thanks for posting, I had this on VHS as a nipper thinking we were the sh*t! 

2 hours ago, Mod said:

Thanks for posting, I had this on VHS as a nipper thinking we were the sh*t! 

You're welcome. I had it on VHS as well. Not sure where the tape is now. I probably gave it away years ago.

I think Uncle Ken put the electric fence up after Sunderland. The message from the  F A being we needed a short sharp shock!

I think they s^*t themselves when the fence went up but was never electrified!

14 hours ago, Richard P said:

I think Uncle Ken put the electric fence up after Sunderland. The message from the  F A being we needed a short sharp shock!

I think they s^*t themselves when the fence went up but was never electrified!

A while back I was chatting to the husband of the landlady of my local pub and he mentioned that his father was the boss of the company which installed the fence. He questioned Uncle Ken if installing an electric was legal and had approval from the local Council. Uncle Ken just told him not to worry and go ahead with the work.

End of an era.

After he retired from football.

7 hours ago, Boyne said:

After he retired from football.

Shows the difference between players who retired after playing in the top flight back then and now. Peter Bonetti was a postman on one of the Scottish Islands for a time, after leaving us in the summer of 1979.

4 hours ago, erskblue said:

Shows the difference between players who retired after playing in the top flight back then and now. Peter Bonetti was a postman on one of the Scottish Islands for a time, after leaving us in the summer of 1979.

Indeed. He was a postman on the Isle of Mull where he also had a guest house. Whilst in Scotland he signed for Dundee United as a reserve goal keeper.

Collecting his World Cup Winners Medal in 2009. At the World Cup in 1966 it was FIFA's policy that only the eleven who played  in the final who would receive a winner's medal. Years later FIFA allowed other squad members to receive medals.

Palace '83?

 

 

On 24/07/2023 at 17:18, Boyne said:

Wet concrete seats and barbed wire...

18 hours ago, Scott said:

Palace '83?

 

 

Thought we were squashed in the corner that year. Following year we had the whole of the Homesdale but it was very sunny

I thought that was somewhere like Shrewsbury? A fella in the photo came on the site a couple of years back

6 hours ago, Scott said:

Filbert Street

13 hours ago, cfcthree said:

Filbert Street

Correct