French locals first, then the Russians, then the French police. Albanians next?

That was yesterday, Today ssn has shown video of England fans burning stuff, Throwing bottles at locals and getting involved with the police, There's no way to put a positive spin on this, It's not good.

Yes, I've seen footage of them set a fire in a shop porch, sing about the war and one had a model bomber plane. Pathetic.

I've seen pics and footage of Russain fans fighting, and seen posts on social media from England fans saying they were being 'run' by Russains and also tear gassed without reason by French police.

Eastern Europe has serious issues with football fans, Russia no different with a large far right contingent.

England fans aren't blameless, but I've seen and read enough to believe they aren't the only idiots out there like a few of the posts here are alluding to.

Of course they're not but the initial fighting was with French locals. The Russians landed and straight into an already crusading bunch of 18-30 year old morons, of course it's going to get heated. Sweep and deny all you like, the evidence is pretty damning in this instance.

Of course they're not but the initial fighting was with French locals. The Russians landed and straight into an already crusading bunch of 18-30 year old morons, of course it's going to get heated. Sweep and deny all you like, the evidence is pretty damning in this instance.

What part of 'England fans aren't blameless' didn't you understand?

What part of 'England fans aren't blameless' didn't you understand?

I just read between the lines and the tears to find excuse after excuse.

I just read between the lines and the tears to find excuse after excuse.

Seems you're about as good at that as you are actually reading what people actually post.

^^^ sobbing uncontrollably.

How dare anyone criticise the beloved English hooligans at a big tournament. Jesus wept.

^^^ sobbing uncontrollably.

How dare anyone criticise the beloved English hooligans at a big tournament. Jesus wept.

Somebody dares to disagree with what you post means they are sobbing and crying?

Try putting your point across without trying to belittle the other person. Just a thought.

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It's a losing battle when you're trying to argue against a biased point of view.

Just pointing out the fact Russian football fans are hardly choirboys, not biased in the slightest.

^^^ sobbing uncontrollably.

How dare anyone criticise the beloved English hooligans at a big tournament. Jesus wept.

 

Give it a rest,

There are plenty of videos doing the rounds of English fans being attacked by either French locals or Russians, hard to tell who because both dress like tramps and there's evidence of stolen England flags help upside down as some sort of trophy which is a common act carried out by European Ultras. Trouble is most England fans don't run and are prepared to give it back. 

 

It's not to say all English fans are innocent because they're not but the trouble on Thursday started when the fans were attacked by the French and it's escalated ever since with the Police caught in the middle of a three way fight.

It's a losing battle when you're trying to argue against a biased point of view.

 

Every point of view is inherently biased.

After the way Chelsea fans were tear gassed at the PSG game with no visible provocation, I'm inclined to believe that the hooligan nature being reported of English fans most certainly has a seed of truth, but that it's exaggerated and has caused overreaction by the French police. Just a personal feeling based on nothing concrete.

Probably a fair assessment offside. I'd imagine there are still a few police veterans who would have experienced '98 which wouldn't have helped matters.

And the police seem quite content to see innocent England fans get a kicking from the Russians and French.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/euro-2016-violence-england-fans-tear-gassed-police-for-third-day-in-a-row-as-violence-breaks-out-a7076696.html

 

Hopefully he pulls through ok.

There's a huge clash of culture between French and UK policing styles. God help us (and all other fans) in Qatar. People are going to get shot and that's not hype. It could happen.

There's a huge clash of culture between French and UK policing styles. God help us (and all other fans) in Qatar. People are going to get shot and that's not hype. It could happen.

Really hoped Qatar would fold after fraud came to light.

Really hoped Qatar would fold after fraud came to light.

Me too. It's a mad, insane, choice of venue. Fans are going to hate being there and players will struggle to play, and stay healthy, in the heat. Madness.

Was just on the news here today. A Dutch 22 year old women is in prison in Qatar after being raped and reporting it to the police. Having sex outside of marriage is breaking the law.

Not the first time that's happened there as well. Absolute bonkers to let them organize such a big event.

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There's a huge clash of culture between French and UK policing styles. God help us (and all other fans) in Qatar. People are going to get shot and that's not hype. It could happen.

You're worried about Qatar? What about Russia 2018, Think of all the Russian fans out to get English fans there.

You're worried about Qatar? What about Russia 2018, Think of all the Russian fans out to get English fans there.

A friend of ours, black English African, went to Russia once and said he'll never return after a racist attack.

Just seen some extensive coverage of the fighting and you would think the French Police were the Israeli's and we were the Palestinians, It looks like a warzone, Horrendous stuff whoever's to blame.