I couldn't give a sh*t what any player says. All the Belgians are loud mouths. Lukaku's goal scoring record speaks for itself.

 

Never seen a player talk as much as him in my life.

 

28 goals in 73 league appearances for Everton since he signed for them isn't exactly setting the world alight. 

Lukaku isn't Drogba.

Lukaku scores goals hwoever he's a pretty poor footballer. His touch hasn't improved since we signed him 4 years ago, Drogba was improving all the time, Lukaku simply isn't.

OK. You obviously don't rate him and you think that he's the finished product at 23. I think he's coming along nicely and has a very high ceiling. Under a decent manager (not that fraud at Everton), he could be anything.

Never seen a player talk as much as him in my life.

28 goals in 73 league appearances for Everton since he signed for them isn't exactly setting the world alight.

And 18 of them came from last season, but apparently he's not improving.

I reckon he'd be put away 25 - 30 consistently in a good team.

OK. You obviously don't rate him and you think that he's the finished product at 23. I think he's coming along nicely and has a very high ceiling. Under a decent manager (not that fraud at Everton), he could be anything.

 

He's being managed by Ronald Koeman now, class manager.

He's being managed by Ronald Koeman now, class manager.

Agree. We'll see how he goes then.

OK. You obviously don't rate him and you think that he's the finished product at 23. I think he's coming along nicely and has a very high ceiling. Under a decent manager (not that fraud at Everton), he could be anything.

I don't rate him as a top striker no.

He's fine for a mid table EPL side but a side in Europe....Nope.

He can't handle playing against the best CB's in Europe.

I don't rate him as a top striker no.

He's fine for a mid table EPL side but a side in Europe....Nope.

He can't handle playing against the best CB's in Europe.

You're not going to come up against a tougher defence to score against than that Italian defence.

You're not going to come up against a tougher defence to score against than that Italian defence.

He struggles every time he plays against top CB's.....

You're not going to come up against a tougher defence to score against than that Italian defence.

 

 

Mourinho defense at United? Simeone defense in CL? 

 

Yes. Lukaku, the 23 year old. What was Drogba doing at 23?

 

Drogba at age of 23 was busy trying to be far better than Drogba at age 22.

 

Which is something Lukaku has not done in years.

 

Get the idea ?

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Yes. Lukaku, the 23 year old. What was Drogba doing at 23?

Honestly the whole he should be excused cause of his age excuse has gotten old. He still has a lack of mentality towards the bigger stage.

I love how you bring up Drogba aswell they play in the same position but as players they are not alike.

Drogba started his professional career at a way later age than Lukaku. There is no comparison other than they are both big looking blokes.

 

It's foolish to think any striker will suddenly turn into Drogba.

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Mourinho defense at United? Simeone defense in CL?

Drogba at age of 23 was busy trying to be far better than Drogba at age 22.

Which is something Lukaku has not done in years.

Get the idea ?

Lmao Smalling and Bailley?

Simeone's defence is up there but you're acting like we play Atletico every week. We aren't even in the CL so I don't know why you're so worried about him scoring against elite CBs.

Mourinho defense at United? Simeone defense in CL?

Drogba at age of 23 was busy trying to be far better than Drogba at age 22.

Which is something Lukaku has not done in years.

Get the idea ?

Lmao Smalling and Bailley?

Simeone's defence is up there but you're acting like we play Atletico every week. We aren't even in the CL so I don't know why you're so worried about him scoring against elite CBs.

Lmao Smalling and Bailley?

Simeone's defence is up there but you're acting like we play Atletico every week. We aren't even in the CL so I don't know why you're so worried about him scoring against elite CBs.

 

I'm pretty sure people would have said 'lmao Cahill and an old Terry' the other season but Mourinho always makes a world class defense. You'd be stupid to think otherwise.

I'm pretty sure people would have said 'lmao Cahill and an old Terry' the other season but Mourinho always makes a world class defense. You'd be stupid to think otherwise.

No they wouldn't. Terry is the greatest CB the PL has seen and Cahill was very very good, especially partnered up with JT.

Smalling and Bailley are nowhere near their level. Laughable to suggest that.

No they wouldn't. Terry is the greatest CB the PL has seen and Cahill was very very good, especially partnered up with JT.

Smalling and Bailley are nowhere near their level. Laughable to suggest that.

 

Terry was wrote off under Rafa and the majority of people were saying he was finished. Cahill has was never seen as a very very good player, he's always just got the job done to an ok standard. 

 

Smalling was great last year and kept one of the best defensive records and we can't judge Bailly as none of us have seen him play. 

Just one game, but he was rank rotten the other night.

To be fair whenever I've seen him I've not had that WOW! thought, but he's still young and gets goals.

Reminds me a little of Costa in that he scores, but his all round game like control etc, is pretty poor for an elite footballer.

Terry was wrote off under Rafa and the majority of people were saying he was finished. Cahill has was never seen as a very very good player, he's always just got the job done to an ok standard.

Smalling was great last year and kept one of the best defensive records and we can't judge Bailly as none of us have seen him play.

Gary Cahill team of the season two years in a row but was never very good lol. Pretty sure he's won every trophy there is to be won in at his time at Chelsea so he must be doing something right. But yeah, you're right. He's a dud and Smalling is world class lol.

And what does Rafa writing off Terry have to do with anything? Just meant he underestimated a champion and Jose had the luxury of managing him.

And I have seen Bailley heaps and he f***ing stinks.

Gary Cahill team of the season two years in a row but was never very good lol. Pretty sure he's won every trophy there is to be won in at his time at Chelsea so he must be doing something right. But yeah, you're right. He's a dud and Smalling is world class lol.

And what does Rafa writing off Terry have to do with anything? Just meant he underestimated a champion and Jose had the luxury of managing him.

And I have seen Bailley heaps and he f***ing stinks.

 

He was never in the team of the year before Mourinho came so you've just proved my point that Mourinho turns average defenders into class defenders. 

 

Thank you and good night.

 

By 'seeing Bailly heaps' i assume you've watched a few youtube videos and that's it.

No they wouldn't. Terry is the greatest CB the PL has seen and Cahill was very very good, especially partnered up with JT.

Smalling and Bailley are nowhere near their level. Laughable to suggest that.

Smalling is better than Cahill... Similar level to Terry now that he's a million years old too.

 

 

Yeah I'm not convinced by Lukaku. He's got potential and he'll no doubt get better but I'm not sure he's going to be the kind of striker we need. He's good at running in behind defenders, and isn't bad running at defences, but he's dreadful with his back to goal. I expected his play in that regard to improve under Martinez but it really hasn't. First touch is shocking, gets bullied by CBs too often (though I do expect this to improve) and makes bad decisions. Misses a hatful of chances for every one that he puts away too - though he does well to get them.

78 goals in 4 seasons is a pretty good return considering his age. He has a ton of room to improve and given that he already has the qualities that cant be taught Id bet on him being a great player

78 goals in 4 seasons is a pretty good return considering his age. He has a ton of room to improve and given that he already has the qualities that cant be taught Id bet on him being a great player

 

He has not shown any significant improvement since his west brom days. Its very unlikely he improves, this is his peak that we are seeing.

 

Also, only 60 of those goals came in the league. Just 15 goals a season.

 

I would take him as a back up striker but does it make any sense for that money and his poor attitude.,

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Yes. Lukaku, the 23 year old. What was Drogba doing at 23?

 

This is such an awful argument, Theo Walcott went to the World Cup and broke into the Arsenal team as a 17 year old, at the same age Xavi, Iniesta and Ronaldinho were awaiting their debut's in first team football at any club.

 

Infact if we are going to go by how young they started their career's, then Connor Wickham will be one of the best players in the world, and Freddy Adu would be the best player in football history, just because Lukaku had a better early part of his career than Drogba doesn't mean he is going to have a better career.

And 18 of them came from last season, but apparently he's not improving.

I reckon he'd be put away 25 - 30 consistently in a good team.

 

How many strikers have scored many goals in mid table clubs but fluffed it when the big move comes along? Wilfried Bony the latest example.

 

Scoring 18 goals at Everton, doesn't mean you will instantly score 10 plus more just because you playing with better players, infact it means the opposite more often than not.

Just one game, but he was rank rotten the other night.

To be fair whenever I've seen him I've not had that WOW! thought, but he's still young and gets goals.

Reminds me a little of Costa in that he scores, but his all round game like control etc, is pretty poor for an elite footballer.

 

Main difference between the two is Costa's intellegent movement helps us break down teams that sit deep and did Atletico while he was in Spain, Lukaku up front vs teams that sit deep and/or defend well is a distaster as shown the other night, he just doesn't have the intellengence to make decent runs and keep the defence occupied like Costa does.

 

That's why im not convinced he will make it at the top, top teams have to reguarly break down parked buses, and Romelu is less suited to playing against that football than Mertesaker is at playing a high line.

 

A good Premier League scorer is his ceiling in my opinion.