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Boufal's agent has claimed that Chelsea has shown interest in him and are willing to meet his asking price 

 

“We have also initiated discussions with three other clubs that interest us, but they either have or will change their coach or the coach is in charge of a national team at the Euros. In England, there is interest, but the English market is just beginning. A transfer of 20 and 25 million euros is not resolved in two weeks, of course.”

 

The French club have already indicated that Boufal, who joined from Angers last January for just €4m, will leave this summer, with the fee expected to be around €25m (£19.6m). A number of English clubs have been monitoring his progress as the 22-year-old scored 11 times in his first full top-flight season and won the award for Best African Player in Ligue 1.

 

Seems like a good talent but is he really someone we need? Can think of many other positions that take priority.





He is doing what Hazard was doing in League 1. Very talented player, 22 years old. I'm not sure if he can play n.10 role, but I'm sure that he's great winger.

Edited by IliyaKrostin

It would be a flawed mentality if we were to enter into each transfer market only going after players who may solve immediate issues.

Have to have one eye on the the following season/s as well, otherwise we'll miss deals we could have made and create more problems down the track.

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It would be a flawed mentality if we were to enter into each transfer market only going after players who may solve immediate issues.

Have to have one eye on the the following season/s as well, otherwise we'll miss deals we could have made and create more problems down the track.

 

I don't believe attacking mid is an issue for future seasons either what with Musonda, Palmer and Baker coming through.

Never heard of him. But he's an african player right?

*Rubs genie lamp to summon Jon Stakes*

 

You called?

 

French with Moroccan origins. Plays for Morocco.

 

Algeria and Morocco seems to be converted a lot of top level talent that could easily be French national team grade to play for them... Adam Ounas another such player (en route to Chelsea, Man City or Man Utd if rumours are true) who just chose Algeria, even though he would likely have been starting for France in a few years.



If we're going to sign more wingers and attacking midfielders t then we really should get rid of the dead wood ones stinking up the joint who are just loan bait.

Moses, Cuadrado, Salah, Piazon etc.

Then we need to cut loose some of the young lads who play in those positions too like Kenedy.

I don't understand continuously signing players for the same position over and over.

If we're going to sign more wingers and attacking midfielders t then we really should get rid of the dead wood ones stinking up the joint who are just loan bait.

Moses, Cuadrado, Salah, Piazon etc.

Then we need to cut loose some of the young lads who play in those positions too like Kenedy.

I don't understand continuously signing players for the same position over and over.

Why does having 'dead wood' on loan really bother you that much though?

Why does having 'dead wood' on loan really bother you that much though?

Because it's a waste of resources.

Chances are we are paying a percentage of the wage for some of the loan army and we're probably paying a pretty penny towards staff to manage and their progress too.

What's the point in having such a large operation if every year we're just going out and signing more of the same?

There's no real development being made or no significant profit so why not invest that time and money into the first team?

Because it's a waste of resources.

Chances are we are paying a percentage of the wage for some of the loan army and we're probably paying a pretty penny towards staff to manage and their progress too.

What's the point in having such a large operation if every year we're just going out and signing more of the same?

There's no real development being made or no significant profit so why not invest that time and money into the first team?

I don't get what the waste of resources is though?

The idea is to integrate these players into the first team, so it is an investment in the first team.

If some of them don't work out and go out on loan I don't see the problem, I don't expect our recruiters to find an Eden Hazard or an Azpilicueta every single time.

Do you think the scouts are lowering the bar intentionally or have been directed to do so from Chelsea?

Do you think because we have Moses, Salah and Cudrado (similiar players) on loan that we could have signed just one and that would immediately make them or someone else perform better?



I don't get what the waste of resources is though?

The idea is to integrate these players into the first team, so it is an investment in the first team.

Is it though?

How many players who we have loaned have been integrated into the first team squad in the past say 5 seasons?

We all know the loan system at Chelsea is solely to try to make us a profit rather than moulding a player to become a first team regular.

I'm not sure how successful it is on the whole given we have one of the largest pool of players out on loan in Europe.

Edited by Chelsbear

I don't get what the waste of resources is though?

The idea is to integrate these players into the first team, so it is an investment in the first team.

If some of them don't work out and go out on loan I don't see the problem, I don't expect our recruiters to find an Eden Hazard or an Azpilicueta every single time.

Do you think the scouts are lowering the bar intentionally or have been directed to do so from Chelsea?

Do you think because we have Moses, Salah and Cudrado (similiar players) on loan that we could have signed just one and that would immediately make them or someone else perform better?

It's not just the players themselves but the management and support structure that goes with it.

We've had this scattergun transfer approach to recruitment for what, six years now?

In that time, to date, Courtois is the only one who has moved into the first team.

That's a pretty poor success rate isn't it?

Of the 30 plus players who were on loan last season which of them realistically have any hopes of becoming a part of the playing squad? 3?

So what's going to happen with the other 27? We've already sold off the best assets, Lukaku and KDB.

Part of the reason those two were successful was because we were willing to invest significant money into them.

Since then we've been a lot more restrained in terms of investment and there's not the same level of buzz or expectation surrounding those loan players, so again, what's the point?

And to your point about lots of similar players, it's a separate argument to the loan system but yes. I feel like it's been poor investment by the club.

Marin, Moses, Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado and Pedro all signed within four years and arguably none improved the first team. That's there abouts £100m spent on right wingers in a short spell and here we are again probably looking to sign yet another for the fifth year running which to me is a poor recruitment stratergy.

It's not just the players themselves but the management and support structure that goes with it.

We've had this scattergun transfer approach to recruitment for what, six years now?

In that time, to date, Courtois is the only one who has moved into the first team.

That's a pretty poor success rate isn't it?

Of the 30 plus players who were on loan last season which of them realistically have any hopes of becoming a part of the playing squad? 3?

So what's going to happen with the other 27? We've already sold off the best assets, Lukaku and KDB.

Part of the reason those two were successful was because we were willing to invest significant money into them.

Since then we've been a lot more restrained in terms of investment and there's not the same level of buzz or expectation surrounding those loan players, so again, what's the point?

And to your point about lots of similar players, it's a separate argument to the loan system but yes. I feel like it's been poor investment by the club.

Marin, Moses, Schurrle, Salah, Cuadrado and Pedro all signed within four years and arguably none improved the first team. That's there abouts £100m spent on right wingers in a short spell and here we are again probably looking to sign yet another for the fifth year running which to me is a poor recruitment stratergy.

Well it seems your leveling the loan systems failure or perceived failure at the loan system itself.  Which is perfectly acceptable, but I don't think it's the case and I don't think it's a scatter-gun approach.  I'd argue a lot of the players haven't progressed beyond their potential (which is what we signed them for) and haven't taken their chances when they were given.  I also think there is a big difference with sending a recently graduated youth player out on loan to that of sending the more seasoned players like Marin, Moses etc out on loan.

This section also applies to Chelsbears post: Sending the seasoned players out on loan will in all reality, devalue the player and Chelsea would be well aware of this.  If they were to have an outstanding season at your Roma's or PSV's then I think we would be more inclined to bring them back into the fold.  We wouldn't sell them and that would be the only way their price went up.. it would have to be a really really outstanding season too.  If they did nothing well we certainly won't get the same we paid for him, but I'm also fine with that.  We haven't got them wasting a bench spot and we aren't paying their full wages (I'm sure we negotiate some great deals on the loan table when it comes to wages).  So for me it's an obvious solution.  No one has yet had a great season and returned to the first team, perhaps that's down to the players poor performance, perhaps our current managers decision, but I don't think it's a fault of them being on loan.

This Boufal player I've never heard of, there are also big name players we are in the market for and linked with and we don't do too bad at getting young South American talent for a fraction of what they would cost in Europe.  So I don't think it's scatter-gun, it's calculated and some of them just don't work.  I can certainly think of some big money transfers that haven't worked either, so even that approach is going to have repercussions if they don't succeed.

I'm not saying there aren't flaws in the system, there are and may 30 is too many?  But then again, Juventus had 60 players on loan last season and they're doing alright.



I read the title and thought I had logged in to my cookery forum that I use!

 

I thought it was a replacement team doctor 

Do you think because we have Moses, Salah and Cudrado (similiar players) on loan that we could have signed just one and that would immediately make them or someone else perform better?

 

In all honesty I don't feel any of the players really was given time to adapt and prove their worth. Cuadrado especially. Both him and Salah are doing really well for themselves in Italy and maybe they needed a bit more patience from our side. Moses mostly flopped on loan which was surprising how good he was in preseason or in his one season here.

Edited by Jon Stakes

Thing with Cuadrado is that he was just so unbelievably poor and considering we were in a title race we just couldnt justify playing him any moore then we did. He was flat out diabolical out there



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