On 11/8/2017 at 20:39, atomis said:

Ohh come'on mate.....it has almost nothing to do with luck. When it keeps happening all the time then something else is wrong. Do people really still believe its a coincidence the likes of utd can do what they want, yet we cant even look at our opponent and bang it goes against us. Utd are one of the darlings in the eyes of FA, media etc.........we the enemy. As you said, where is the credit for conte? Or the way we dominated them? Reverse the Picture.......you'll see hard-ons all over the media and the so called pundits.

I really wish this conspiracy would stop. Ref's are rubbish not cheats. Yes we have had a bad run with them this season (and even then, we got given an absolute gift against Watford with that non corner that led to us scoring) but there has been many times we have been on the right end of ridiculous decision, including against Man.Utd. Do you remember how we won the two home games vs them under Carlo?

Edited November 10, 20178 yr by Argo

1 hour ago, Argo said:

I really wish this conspiracy would stop. Ref's are rubbish not cheats. Yes we have had a bad run with them this season (and even then, we got given an absolute gift against Watford with that non corner that led to us scoring) but there has been many times we have been on the right end of ridiculous decision, including against Man.Utd. Do you remember how we won the two home games vs them under Carlo?

And I wish people would open their eyes a Little bit and see that something is wrong and has been wrong for many years now. How can one go through the fergison years and not see what is happening? How can you support Chelsea and not see how much and often we go through hell with these refs? 2-3 incidents do not change the fact that we are being punished left and right. No disrespect to you mate..........but it has been evident some are doing their best to damage us. And why was a Manchester man allowed to ref our game against utd?

14 minutes ago, atomis said:

And I wish people would open their eyes a Little bit and see that something is wrong and has been wrong for many years now. How can one go through the fergison years and not see what is happening? How can you support Chelsea and not see how much and often we go through hell with these refs? 2-3 incidents do not change the fact that we are being punished left and right. No disrespect to you mate..........but it has been evident some are doing their best to damage us. And why was a Manchester man allowed to ref our game against utd?

Again that's just paranoia for me. As a Chelsea fan in my life the amount of rubbish decision's that favour us compared to go against us is probably about even. Ok, this season we have a bad run of it, under Ancelotti for example we were getting dubious decision's go in our favour quite a lot, including three times in a row vs Fergie which funnily enough was the difference in the 2010 title race.

1 hour ago, Argo said:

Again that's just paranoia for me. As a Chelsea fan in my life the amount of rubbish decision's that favour us compared to go against us is probably about even. Ok, this season we have a bad run of it, under Ancelotti for example we were getting dubious decision's go in our favour quite a lot, including three times in a row vs Fergie which funnily enough was the difference in the 2010 title race.

Even? You cant possibly mean that my friend? We cant look at a player and we are punished.......we cant buy a penalty. Just look at the injuctice since JM returned.......You can literally break our players in half and nothing will be said or done. The powers that be do not like us one bit.....we are the enemy. Ask yourself why the standard of refereeing is so awful in PL.......ask why absolutely nothing is done about it.....ask why its getting worse. Sure most teams get good and bad calls.......but we at Chels suffer more than others.......especially if we are a threat to their plans.

2 hours ago, Argo said:

Again that's just paranoia for me. As a Chelsea fan in my life the amount of rubbish decision's that favour us compared to go against us is probably about even. Ok, this season we have a bad run of it, under Ancelotti for example we were getting dubious decision's go in our favour quite a lot, including three times in a row vs Fergie which funnily enough was the difference in the 2010 title race.

 

Against Everton recently Mirallas stamped on Fabregas, quite deliberately. There's a gif of it on the Everton thread if you want to have a look, from an angle that leaves you in no doubt. What happened? Nothing. It wasn't even looked at because nobody made a fuss about it. Everybody just kept quiet. If that had been a Chelsea player I think the reaction would have been different and he'd be serving a ban.

 

However, the point is, refs have known for a long time they'll be more scrutinised by the media if they make a bad decision in our favour, whereas if they make a bad decision that goes against us it will largely be ignored. I'm not saying refs go out to deliberately cheat us, just like they didn't deliberately go out to favour Fergie's Utd teams, but they are influenced, because they're human.

 

We're hated, quite simply, by everybody, so they know how the media react, and it influences them. I dare say one or two of them hate us themselves, Anthony Taylor definitely being one, and Kevin Friend being another one.

 

Just watch them, next time they referee us.

1 hour ago, Davey Baby said:

 

Against Everton recently Mirallas stamped on Fabregas, quite deliberately. There's a gif of it on the Everton thread if you want to have a look, from an angle that leaves you in no doubt. What happened? Nothing. It wasn't even looked at because nobody made a fuss about it. Everybody just kept quiet. If that had been a Chelsea player I think the reaction would have been different and he'd be serving a ban.

 

However, the point is, refs have known for a long time they'll be more scrutinised by the media if they make a bad decision in our favour, whereas if they make a bad decision that goes against us it will largely be ignored. I'm not saying refs go out to deliberately cheat us, just like they didn't deliberately go out to favour Fergie's Utd teams, but they are influenced, because they're human.

 

We're hated, quite simply, by everybody, so they know how the media react, and it influences them. I dare say one or two of them hate us themselves, Anthony Taylor definitely being one, and Kevin Friend being another one.

 

Just watch them, next time they referee us.

We've also gotten away with things Davey, every team gets bad decisions against them. 

Obviously like I said, Arsenal, United & Liverpool get more protection. We'll never forget the Costa crimes, the stamp was actually debatable when it comes to stamps because he had nowhere else to land. But with Costa's history, you can bet he done it on purpose. The issue was though, you had 3 pundits on one panel being Jamie Rednknapp, Jamie Carragher and Graeme Souness calling Costa a disgrace and did everything in their power to get him banned. 

If that Sky punditry didn't happen, I can bet Costa wouldn't have been banned, the F.A like to ignore things if they can. Can you imagine if Aguero did what he did to David Luiz to a United player? You know for a fact it would be headlined on the BBC or Sky and action would've been taken. Yet when do we ever have pundits or old-school journalists writing articles for us? Ruud Gullit is a Chelsea supporter but he supports plenty of other teams and doesn't make often appearances, he's also very critical of Chelsea. 

There has been more than 1 occasion where we got a correct call and the refs association called the oppo manager and apologised. Have we ever received such treatment?

Edited November 11, 20178 yr by Stim

I've seriously considered if Martin Atkinson is a Chelsea fan. The amount of wrong calls he has given us over the years is insane especially against Spurs.