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He's since backed down (so I've heard) on the penalty claim. With the benefit of the replay he's now saying it was a blatant handball. Which it was. Heard a scouser calling to "remind" JM that handball means hand to ball. Well the ball was going one way, his hand was moving towards the ball, making it move in another direction entirely. And if that's not hand to ball, I'd like to know what the f**k is.

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i couldnt beleive what i was hearing when he started bleating on about a penalty you should have had, i couldnt recall any penalty shouts either way tonight and it was only when sky showed the replay that i knew what he was on about. It was handball, unintentional but handball none the less, but he wasnt even close to the box.

he has definatelygot some major issues that man.

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He has already retracted the statement after seeing the replay so clearly he was just mistaken (admittedly God knows how) and thought it was in the box. Not really a case of major issues, just a case of a mistake.

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He has already retracted the statement after seeing the replay so clearly he was just mistaken (admittedly God knows how) and thought it was in the box. Not really a case of major issues, just a case of a mistake.

A mistake maybe Loz - but is's not the first and he really needs to think sometimes before he opens his mouth. I was embarrassed with his comments last night on what was otherwise a bloody good night.

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I didn't see the post match comments, just heard about his penalty claim. I think there is a big difference between claiming you should have been awarded a penalty for an incident inside the box which turns out wasn't a penalty (as is the usual situation) and last nights claim. Even Jose wouldn't be claiming a penalty should have been awarded if he had seen that incident properly, it was miles outside the box. it was a cler handball and how a free kick was not awarded I have no idea, so if Jose thought it was in the box, for whatever reason, then I can understand his comments straight after the game.

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He has already retracted the statement after seeing the replay so clearly he was just mistaken (admittedly God knows how) and thought it was in the box. Not really a case of major issues, just a case of a mistake.

A mistake maybe Loz - but is's not the first and he really needs to think sometimes before he opens his mouth. I was embarrassed with his comments last night on what was otherwise a bloody good night.

I have to disagree with you there. Personally I'm amazed at how well Jose copes with the pressure of the constant media attention I doubt very much whether I'd manage to keep my cool under the circumstances. In light of this, how can you blame Jose for playing games with the press when they pounce on his every word, and analyse everything he says from every conceivable angle, often adding "what he's really saying is ... "what he's getting at is ... " and similarly conjecturally based crap.

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On the Chelsea TV interview Jose said that he'd been told it should have been a penalty. Given his position in the dugout, the fact that SKY didn't seem keen to replay the incident and the fact he was interviewed immediately after the game give the guy a break.

I think it was deliberate, their donkey of a right back (how many foul challenges with no yellow card?) miscontrolled and used a crafty hand to knock the ball away - the player was outside the box but can you be sure his hand was?

No penalty but a very dangerous free kick.

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Don't get me wrong I love Jose on the whole, but he did make such a big thing about it. The interviewer was asking him about the game but he kept going on & on about the "penalty" and no way should have he been making such claims if he hadn't even seen the incident. It makes him and us look stupid - especially when he then again couldn't resist mentioning the "Garcia goal". Two year ago Jose - LET IT LIE!!!!!

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It's not the first time Jos? does this but to his defence I've got that say that he atleast takes it back. Everyone makes mistakes, even "The Special One". So as long as he admits being wrong I won't be too mad about it all.

Also, he did say this before having a 2nd look at the situations and there are still pages on the internet that claims it to be a penalty and I bet they have seen the replay more times than JM had at the time of his comment.

I think eurosport.com still thinks so. But then again that site is effing awful and are run by a bunch of t*ats. Just look at their Champions League team of the week. No Mikel and NO DROGBA! smiley_crazy.gif

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nibs is spot on- the whole episode has been quite embrassing. also allowed benitez to avoid talking about his side and put some pressure back onto jose by saying "well if he thinks it's a penalty then it is a penalty". you'd hope for once we could enjoy a win over liverpool without some other issue clouding it.

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if you are talking about benitez- then yes, obviously. his side are in a difficult position and there was nothing else to divert attention from the result.

if you are talking about jose- not a chance. the team won, and kept a clean sheet. the pressure is (should have been) on liverpool. it was an error. he should have just said- "could have won by more, we have a clean sheet, the pressure is on them".

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Sometimes i do feel he should'nt say some things, especially when we have won but if he says something only if we lose its just written of as sour grapes. The point he was trying to make was about us not getting certain decisions and if he's trying to put pressure on the ref then whats wrong with that, as fans we do it all the time. When he is wrong, like the other night the handball was clearly outside the box and in the past when he accused Andy Johnson of diving for a pen when replays showed he was getting out the keepers way then he should say so. On both occasions he has done just that.

From my point of view JM says so much after a game that i agree with, and we all praise him for having the courage to do so at times that to try and gag him would be stupid. While he's out there fighting our corner then i'm happy.I dont feel its pressure getting to him at all like the media would try and have you belive. I think he's a very clever man who knows exactly what he's doing and he knows what the atmosphere will be like at Anfield and how some refs can be blatant 'homers' and he's chucked that out there as a way to try and prevent it.

Who knows, we might get a pen on tuesday????

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"If he says that it is false that Manchester United have conceded penalties that were not given, it's lies. And if he is a liar he will never reach the highest level that he desires in football."

In the papers today. Mourinho has directed some comments at Divealdo.

Pathetic.

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He said he was talking about facts, and its a fact that Borough, Sheff Utd and Fulham should all have had late penalties given against Man Utd. And there are times we should have had penalties that was'nt given to us.

I know most teams could argue the same through out the course of a season but it does'nt mean he's wrong does it?

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he's wrong to say "If he says that it is false that Manchester United have conceded penalties that were not given, it's lies. And if he is a liar he will never reach the highest level that he desires in football.", and it's a little embarassing for me to see him talking about diving. we have drogba, robben and joe cole who do it regularly for us, and he has openly said before that he has told his players to feign injury in order to waste time. it makes him look stupid and invites people to talk the next time a chelsea player dives.

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He said he was talking about facts, and its a fact that Borough, Sheff Utd and Fulham should all have had late penalties given against Man Utd. And there are times we should have had penalties that was'nt given to us.

I know most teams could argue the same through out the course of a season but it does'nt mean he's wrong does it?

Yes but this argument about "facts" is childish, illogical and inconsequential (although you seem to have fallen for it).

Ronaldo doesn't agree that that there is a new law in football that Manure don't have penalties given against them. This makes him a liar which means he won't reach the highest level in football. That's just puerile nonsense.

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we may not like it, but when will people realise that jose does this on purpose to take the heat off his players? He's done it since the day he arrived and the press and some of you still fall for it hook line and sinker...i'm not saying it helps chelsea's image or popularity, but it's what jose does...I laugh when I read that jose is supposedly cracking up or losing it...if that's the case he lost it a long time ago!

Besides I think every chelsea fan should be pi**ed off that two blatant pens weren't given against utd...the refs bottled it and jose is right to question why...not sure about the strength of our claim at newcastle though!

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we may not like it, but when will people realise that jose does this on purpose to take the heat off his players? He's done it since the day he arrived and the press and some of you still fall for it hook line and sinker...i'm not saying it helps chelsea's image or popularity, but it's what jose does...I laugh when I read that jose is supposedly cracking up or losing it...if that's the case he lost it a long time ago!

Besides I think every chelsea fan should be pi**ed off that two blatant pens weren't given against utd...the refs bottled it and jose is right to question why...not sure about the strength of our claim at newcastle though!

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Spot on mate!!!!!

We're 7 games from winning an unpresidented quad and all the media have spoken about all season is Jose, how he's losing it, how he's losing his job, how he'll be sacked, arguements with Sheva etc.

No-one and I mean no-one in the media has mentioned the acheivements of the team without taking a swipe at Jose, they just keep blowing it up Man Utd's arse, let 'em do it!

Oh and Jose NEVER gets it wrong!!

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I think this "taking the heat off the players" is nonsense though. Maybe he was once upon a time - but what heat have the players got to take off at present?

At times, he just can't help himself. I love the bloke, but he does have a habit of opening his mouth and putting his foot firmly in it.

If that had been Red Nose, Raffa or Wenger spouting that bollox, we would all be saying "what a knob" and rightly so. So it pains me when are very own special one makes a knob of himself when there really is no need to.

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but what heat have the players got to take off at present?

7 games away from the greatest seaon ever know in football history !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I knew someone would come back with that as soon as I typed it!!!

Sure there is pressure, but the players should be able to handle that without the need for Jose's comments that is supposedly taking the pressure of the players. I could understand if the team or individual players were playing sh**e and after JM came out with something to deflect the criticism, but what we've been discussing here is just plain daft.

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we may not like it, but when will people realise that jose does this on purpose to take the heat off his players? He's done it since the day he arrived and the press and some of you still fall for it hook line and sinker...i'm but it's what jose does I laugh when I read that jose is supposedly cracking up or losing it...if that's the case he lost it a long time ago!

Besides I think every chelsea fan should be pi**ed off that two blatant pens weren't given against utd...the refs bottled it and jose is right to question why...not sure about the strength of our claim at newcastle though!

I must be in the minority then because I like it, for me what Jose does, he does on the team behalf and benifit, 99% of Jose observations and comments are spot on, he is only trying to put pressure on the match officals to get their decisions correct, do people think our popularity would increase if he said nothing, we have come to the table and we are eating at the head of said table spoilt the others monopoly and are a winning team that is why we are not so popular now. More power to Jose elbow and long may he reign supreme.

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