1 hour ago, DarkMata said:

Hilarious how Napoli value Lukaku at £20m and then Osimhen at £100m.  Don’t know why we’re dealing with these con men.

Napoli have always been con men, they managed to get us to pay £50m+ for Jorginho when he was worth pennies. 

3 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Napoli have always been con men, they managed to get us to pay £50m+ for Jorginho when he was worth pennies. 

I wasn’t a fan of Jorginho, but harsh to say he was worth pennies. 

He was one of, if not, the best in the world at what he did. He would have flourished in a team like prime tiki taka Barca or Peps city. The metronomic passing was a genuine asset for the right team. 

His problem at Chelsea was that we were forcing a style onto a team that it didn’t suit. Arguably we continue to do the same now. 
 

 

1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:

I wasn’t a fan of Jorginho, but harsh to say he was worth pennies. 

Says the bloke who goes the extra mile to belittle Jackson. 😂

6 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Says the bloke who goes the extra mile to belittle Jackson. 😂

Jackson is a rubbish footballer who is good at nothing. Maybe too distracted by his constant dissent, fighting over taking penalties, his next only fans girl, his next haircut or simply trying to get used to his new boots that mummy got him….but he is rubbish all the same.

Jorginho was a good footballer in a team that wasn’t suited to get the best out of him. I was hugely critical of him here, and wanted him out - but he was, at the point of purchase, one of the best around at what he did.

Edited August 13, 20241 yr by nonotnowjim

7 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Jackson is a rubbish footballer who is good at nothing. Maybe too distracted by his constant dissent, fighting over taking penalties, his next only fans girl, his next haircut or simply trying to get used to his new boots that mummy got him….but he is rubbish all the same.

Jorginho was a good footballer in a team that wasn’t suited to get the best out of him. I was hugely critical of him here, and wanted him out - but he was, at the point of purchase, one of the best around at what he did.

Giving Jorginho a pass because he wasn't in a system that got the best out of him yet not Jackson who was in his first year of English football yet still managed 17 goals. 😂

 

6 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Giving Jorginho a pass because he wasn't in a system that got the best out of him yet not Jackson who was in his first year of English football yet still managed 17 goals. 😂

 

Giving Jorginho a pass because he was a fundamentally decent footballer, playing in a team not suited to his style. He was also a model professional during his time with us.

Not giving Jackson a pass, because he is fundamentally an awful footballer, who falls over the ball and/or his 2 left feet - and who has been a liability on and allegedly off the field. 

10 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Giving Jorginho a pass because he wasn't in a system that got the best out of him yet not Jackson who was in his first year of English football yet still managed 17 goals. 😂

 

Oh - and the 17 goals should be applauded. A shame only 8ish of them (I forget the exact number - my breakdown is elsewhere in the forum) actually mattered. 

23 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Giving Jorginho a pass because he was a fundamentally decent footballer, playing in a team not suited to his style. He was also a model professional during his time with us.

Not giving Jackson a pass, because he is fundamentally an awful footballer, who falls over the ball and/or his 2 left feet - and who has been a liability on and allegedly off the field. 

Model professional. When Jackson cheats on the mother of his children with a stripper, let me know. 😂

Jorginho is good at what he does, but what he does is limited. Sarri's whole system was built around Jorginho so you are going to find a hard time convincing anyone with a rational head that he wasn't in a system that suited him. More like the league didn't suit him and as far as liability goes, Jorginho was the pinnacle. I must of imagined him getting skint game after game with his zero physical/defensive presence and a limited passing range. Blokes lobbed passes were an embarrassment a times.  

Unlike you though I still have the sense in appreciating what Jorginho offered. The fact you can't with Jackson doesn't make me take you seriously now that I realize you aren't actually bantering. 

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 20241 yr by Sconnie Blue

2 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

I wasn’t a fan of Jorginho, but harsh to say he was worth pennies. 

I may have possibly been too kind if anything, Napoli should have given us a transfer fee for taking him off their hands. 

40 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Giving Jorginho a pass because he was a fundamentally decent footballer, playing in a team not suited to his style. He was also a model professional during his time with us.

Not giving Jackson a pass, because he is fundamentally an awful footballer, who falls over the ball and/or his 2 left feet - and who has been a liability on and allegedly off the field. 

Jackson hasn't been practicing in the closed season, still fumbling about, getting his legs tangled up and not predicting where he should be for a tap in.. 

Hope he learns but I'm not hopeful

52 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Giving Jorginho a pass because he wasn't in a system that got the best out of him yet not Jackson who was in his first year of English football yet still managed 17 goals. 😂

 

17 goals scored, 50 easy chances missed 🙂

17 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

I may have possibly been too kind if anything, Napoli should have given us a transfer fee for taking him off their hands. 

Grumpy. Nothing took your fancy for lunch in the Executive Dining Room?

28 minutes ago, dermott said:

Grumpy. Nothing took your fancy for lunch in the Executive Dining Room?

Morrisons salad box and salt and chilli pork belly today. Think all the sodium is making me grouchy. 

40 minutes ago, guddy69 said:

17 goals scored, 50 easy chances missed 🙂

No different from most top strikers tbh.

Haaland missed a hell of a lot more and Nico missed about as many as Ollie Watkins and Isak. 

41 minutes ago, guddy69 said:

17 goals scored, 50 easy chances missed 🙂

17 goals, only a handful were meaningful (sorry - but goal 6 in a 6v0 win is not equal to a winner or equaliser in a close game)

50 easy chances missed.

Loads of controversy on and off the pitch. 

Struggled not to trip over his own feet.

My hatred for wacko is no doubt irrational and over exaggerated, but I genuinely cannot stand the guy.

He is rubbish. 

anyway....back on topic. Osimen. Make it happen, and send wacko the other way. 

4 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

No different from most top strikers tbh.

Haaland missed a hell of a lot more and Nico missed about as many as Ollie Watkins and Isak. 

Taken the bait....

Its not all missed chances in isolation though is it?

Comparing Wackos 24 missed chances favourably to Haaland 34 is madness, when considering one of those players won the golden boot and fired his team to the league title, and the other scored just a handful of meaningful goals. 

We need to take it (wackos awfulness) in the round. Misses, bad attitude, lack of impactful goals, petulance, number of bookings, off field antics, ugly face, lack of footballing brain etc.... it all adds up to a rubbish player that has no place at the best club in the world....or chelsea. 

33 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Taken the bait....

Its not all missed chances in isolation though is it?

Comparing Wackos 24 missed chances favourably to Haaland 34 is madness, when considering one of those players won the golden boot and fired his team to the league title, and the other scored just a handful of meaningful goals. 

We need to take it (wackos awfulness) in the round. Misses, bad attitude, lack of impactful goals, petulance, number of bookings, off field antics, ugly face, lack of footballing brain etc.... it all adds up to a rubbish player that has no place at the best club in the world....or chelsea. 

One had KDB and Silva putting chances on a plate and the other has Mudryk and Gallagher. 

You speak about Jackson only scoring meaningless goals yet Haaland last season:

Games against 2nd, 3rd and 4th:

2nd place Arsenal - 1 loss and 1 draw. Played full 90 both games. 4 shots 0 goals 0 shots on target.

3rd place Liverpool - 2 draws. Played full 90 both games. 6 shots 1 goal.

4th place Villa - played full 90 in the 1-0 loss with 2 shots and no goals. Didn't play the second game and City won 4-1.

So that's 12 shots against any team that could challenge City and he scored a single goal. 

This was Jackson's first season leading the line in a completely new league and has done more than any of the expensive signings we've made have managed to do for us. 22 years of age and is only going to do better. I think its obvious you have a personal dislike towards Jackson for whatever reason that may be but he's the best striker we've had for years and we'd be far worse off without him. 

57 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

anyway....back on topic. Osimen. Make it happen, and send wacko the other way. 

missed this. If you think Jackson is clumsy you'll love Osimhen.... 

2 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

One had KDB and Silva putting chances on a plate and the other has Mudryk and Gallagher. 

You speak about Jackson only scoring meaningless goals yet Haaland last season:

Games against 2nd, 3rd and 4th:

2nd place Arsenal - 1 loss and 1 draw. Played full 90 both games. 4 shots 0 goals 0 shots on target.

3rd place Liverpool - 2 draws. Played full 90 both games. 6 shots 1 goal.

4th place Villa - played full 90 in the 1-0 loss with 2 shots and no goals. Didn't play the second game and City won 4-1.

So that's 12 shots against any team that could challenge City and he scored a single goal. 

This was Jackson's first season leading the line in a completely new league and has done more than any of the expensive signings we've made have managed to do for us. 22 years of age and is only going to do better. I think its obvious you have a personal dislike towards Jackson for whatever reason that may be but he's the best striker we've had for years and we'd be far worse off without him. 

Sorry - taken the bait again. To insinuate that Haaland didn’t score many important goals is unjustifiable. He scored a total of 27 goals in the premier league last season.

These included:

The first 2 goals in a 3v0 win against burnley. Both big goals.
The opening goal in a 2v1 win against Sheffield Utd. A big goal.
A hatrick in a 5v1 win against Fulham - the final 3 goals, so not counting them as “big” even if they made the tie more comfortable.
The third goal in a 3v1 win against wet spam - again not counting this as big.
Winning goal against Forest.
Winning goal in a 2v1 win against Brighton.
Opening 2 goals (and an assist on the third) in a 3v0 win against man utd
2 goals (and an assist) against us in the 4v4 draw
1 goal in the 1v1 against Liverpool to secure a draw
Both goals in 2v0 win against Everton
Only goal of the game in 1v0 win against Brentford
Third goal late on in 3v1 win against man utd - not counting this as big.
3rd goal in 3v2 win against palace - the winning goal
3rd goal in 5v1 win against luton. Not counting this as a big goal.
2nd goal in 2v0 win against forest. Not counting this as big - even though it made sure of the result
4 goals in 5v1 win against wolves - ultimately the winning goal.
Both goals in 2v0 win against spurs.

As can be seen, this is lots of important, game changing goals, where he has either opened the scoring, equalised or got winning goals. Out of all 27 goals, I have marked 7 as “not big” - and 3 of those were a hatrick. This is without taking into account cups and Europe.

Wacko by comparison scored mostly fluff goals, padding out the scoreline in games that were already won.  There were some “big” goals - but not many. I go into detail of these on his own thread...

Jackson is not the best striker we have had for years. He is one of the worst in terms of footballing ability, footballing IQ and taking chances.

38 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Sorry - taken the bait again. To insinuate that Haaland didn’t score many important goals is unjustifiable. He scored a total of 27 goals in the premier league last season.

These included:

The first 2 goals in a 3v0 win against burnley. Both big goals.
The opening goal in a 2v1 win against Sheffield Utd. A big goal.
A hatrick in a 5v1 win against Fulham - the final 3 goals, so not counting them as “big” even if they made the tie more comfortable.
The third goal in a 3v1 win against wet spam - again not counting this as big.
Winning goal against Forest.
Winning goal in a 2v1 win against Brighton.
Opening 2 goals (and an assist on the third) in a 3v0 win against man utd
2 goals (and an assist) against us in the 4v4 draw
1 goal in the 1v1 against Liverpool to secure a draw
Both goals in 2v0 win against Everton
Only goal of the game in 1v0 win against Brentford
Third goal late on in 3v1 win against man utd - not counting this as big.
3rd goal in 3v2 win against palace - the winning goal
3rd goal in 5v1 win against luton. Not counting this as a big goal.
2nd goal in 2v0 win against forest. Not counting this as big - even though it made sure of the result
4 goals in 5v1 win against wolves - ultimately the winning goal.
Both goals in 2v0 win against spurs.

As can be seen, this is lots of important, game changing goals, where he has either opened the scoring, equalised or got winning goals. Out of all 27 goals, I have marked 7 as “not big” - and 3 of those were a hatrick. This is without taking into account cups and Europe.

Wacko by comparison scored mostly fluff goals, padding out the scoreline in games that were already won.  There were some “big” goals - but not many. I go into detail of these on his own thread...

Jackson is not the best striker we have had for years. He is one of the worst in terms of footballing ability, footballing IQ and taking chances.

You know how I said there's a thin line between love and hate, and maybe one day you will actually like this guy.....yep, I take that all back, you're too far gone bud. 🤣 🤣 🤣 

Honestly I'm with the others on this, and I really hope he steps up again this season but with less missed chances. Lol

Maybe we should move this to the Jackson thread though...there was more love in that thread. Hahaha

Now this vicky bloke...

 

I'm at that point where enough is enough. Someone lock bohely, the sd's or whoever is in charge in a fkn cupboard till the transfer window closes. 

How do we go about getting an immediate transfer ban...can we punch someone?

5 minutes ago, Simplymo said:

How do we go about getting an immediate transfer ban...can we punch someone?

Jackson?

4 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Jackson?

And then you give me hope that one day you will love him...first one on your mind.

Stop playing with his heart...and playing hard to get.

You and Jackson 😍😍😍😘😘😘😘

🤣 

Is it correct to say Jackson is the best striker Chelsea’s had since Diego Costa?  
 

Legend in the making 

22 minutes ago, DarkMata said:

Is it correct to say Jackson is the best striker Chelsea’s had since Diego Costa?  
 

Legend in the making 

Now you've done it!!!

Ah fk it...its the internet, I'll be honest and say yes. Lol