PSG bid of €80million rejected by Napoli.

Arsenal are willing to go higher, but will not match PSG’s salary offer.

Reports are that Victor Osimhen is not keen on a move to Chelsea

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 20241 yr by TheCeleryKing

3 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

PSG bid of €80million rejected by Napoli.

Arsenal are willing to go higher, but will not match PSG’s salary offer.

Reports are that Victor Osimhen is not keen on a move to Chelsea

 

 

 

He won't be, its all and only about the money.

13 minutes ago, TheCeleryKing said:

PSG bid of €80million rejected by Napoli.

Arsenal are willing to go higher, but will not match PSG’s salary offer.

Reports are that Victor Osimhen is not keen on a move to Chelsea

 

 

 

Source mate. 

39 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Source mate. 

I have been on the sauce, yes. . .

Erm, but this Victor story was According to Italy-based Radio Radio.  So with a pinch of salt.

it is an odd situation. Victor is leaving Napoli.  Arsenal, Chelsea and PSG all linked with him, but all seem hesitant. Looks like it will go to the final days of the window. Brinkmanship.

Asking price and salary are the stumbling blocks. Injury issues and a view here in Italy that he's a bit of a flat-track bully. Even in his best season, scored bucket loads against the cellar dwellers, a lot fewer against the big boys.

17 hours ago, TheCeleryKing said:

PSG bid of €80million rejected by Napoli.

Arsenal are willing to go higher, but will not match PSG’s salary offer.

Reports are that Victor Osimhen is not keen on a move to Chelsea

 

 

 

Good!

Read this on the beeb rumours section too. Personally he's too high risk and his contract is another complication and cost we don't need.

4 hours ago, Simplymo said:

Good!

Read this on the beeb rumours section too. Personally he's too high risk and his contract is another complication and cost we don't need.

Not 100% on this transfer either but what are the alternative's?  Pretty sure we all agree Omorodion is even more of a risk.  Someone like Guirassy or Mateta who've had one standout season, Solanke a similar situation.  There isn't anyone that stands out so the only other option is to stick with Jackson!  

Forgot there is Alvarez but it looks like he's off to Atletico.

Edited August 6, 20241 yr by DarkMata

2 hours ago, DarkMata said:

Not 100% on this transfer either but what are the alternative's?  Pretty sure we all agree Omorodion is even more of a risk.  Someone like Guirassy or Mateta who've had one standout season, Solanke a similar situation.  There isn't anyone that stands out so the only other option is to stick with Jackson!  

Forgot there is Alvarez but it looks like he's off to Atletico.

I don't think there are any alternatives that are out there that haven't been taken/rumoured moved/renewed/etc already. Personally I'd stick with Jackson and guiu for now instead of wasting money on those 2 and maybe miss out on someone better next Summer. Neither one of Osimhen or omorodion fill me with confidence and more importantly neither is cheap. And at this point I'd take neither over the 2 we have atm.

Guiu showed fk loads of enthusiasm but is really raw. And Jackson...I really really hope a seasons experience is enough to do better than he did (and he didn't do too bad for his first season any way).

My worry is injuries...if those 2 go then we're fkd. There's no decent strikers out there atm for sale...just more inexperience or ones that had a lucky season last year.

Edited August 6, 20241 yr by Simplymo

With Omorodion over the line I anticipate Osimhen only happens on the club's terms now they have another striker at the club. 

Selling Lukaku to buy a Lukaku regen

£100m

23 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

£100m

Absolute fkn waste of money if we buy him.

2 minutes ago, Simplymo said:

Absolute fkn waste of money if we buy him.

We're lead to believe that the SD's are following a data lead approach but if that's the case the signings we're going after make absolutely no sense. It's so scattergun just buying the biggest bunch of nobodies possible. 

2 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

We're lead to believe that the SD's are following a data lead approach but if that's the case the signings we're going after make absolutely no sense. It's so scattergun just buying the biggest bunch of nobodies possible. 

I agree bud, I would love to see that "data"

Because if so they are being fkd by wrong/incomplete data mate.

Oooo....I don't have the energy to sulk, so I'm going to make this sh*tshow fun, conspiracy theories! hahahaha.

 

*Maybe they've been hacked and the software is just showing the wrong data, I blame the spuds. I always blame them for everything. Lol

It was a joint effort between spuds and Brighton. The sd's stole the wrong software. 

Give me a few days...I'll create 100 conspiracy theories about this data, all leading to spuds and Brighton. Now where did I leave the tinfoil?

2 hours ago, Simplymo said:

I agree bud, I would love to see that "data"

Because if so they are being fkd by wrong/incomplete data mate.

Oooo....I don't have the energy to sulk, so I'm going to make this sh*tshow fun, conspiracy theories! hahahaha.

 

*Maybe they've been hacked and the software is just showing the wrong data, I blame the spuds. I always blame them for everything. Lol

It was a joint effort between spuds and Brighton. The sd's stole the wrong software. 

Give me a few days...I'll create 100 conspiracy theories about this data, all leading to spuds and Brighton. Now where did I leave the tinfoil?

Dodgy software was probably bought from Brighton like all the other sh*te.

The problem looking at a graph like this is, everything looks equal in weight.

Jackson 9.1 Turnovers and 2.6 shots per game
Osimhen 7.7 Turnovers and 3.7 shots per game

So Jackson gets turns the ball over more and shoots less every game. The chart shows Jackson dribbles more, but it's a pretty shocking chart for strikers.

It has nothing on heading. It looks more like something that would compare two wingers.more than 2 9's. I want 9's that move off the ball well and finish well, 1 or 2 touch finishing is huge.

7 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

£100m

I think that chart is misleading. Jackson is a very involved attacker who's overall game doesn't make him a traditional #9 as opposed to Osimhen. You will find a similar graph comparing Havertz to Haaland. 

For me, the most important metrics for strikers are how often they get shots off and how they performed compared to their expected goals. Osimhen gets more shots off per 90 and dwarfs Jackson in how they did compared to their expected goals. (Jackson -4.6) (Osimhen +0.6)

Not to mention this was all during a season where Napoli vastly underperformed. 

Edited August 7, 20241 yr by Sconnie Blue

1 hour ago, Sconnie Blue said:

I think that chart is misleading. Jackson is a very involved attacker who's overall game doesn't make him a traditional #9 as opposed to Osimhen. You will find a similar graph comparing Havertz to Haaland. 

For me, the most important metrics for strikers are how often they get shots off and how they performed compared to their expected goals. Osimhen gets more shots off per 90 and dwarfs Jackson in how they did compared to their expected goals. (Jackson -4.6) (Osimhen +0.6)

Not to mention this was all during a season where Napoli vastly underperformed. 

the graph literally shows the shots per 90 and the NPxG/shot. 

7 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

the graph literally shows the shots per 90 and the NPxG/shot. 

Right, but it doesn't show how they compare vs their expected NPxG. 

10 hours ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

£100m

 

The previous season stats and including heading stats rather than passing looks a little different.

3 hours ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Right, but it doesn't show how they compare vs their expected NPxG. 

Is this supposed to be impressive for Osimhen?

1 hour ago, DarkMata said:

 

The previous season stats and including heading stats rather than passing looks a little different.

May as well save £100m and just use Lukaku if we're looking at previous seasons and want a target man with minimal footballing ability.

9 minutes ago, Ukraine Bolt said:

Is this supposed to be impressive for Osimhen?

Yes.

Despite Napoli having a very sh*t season, just about every expected goal Osimhen got he put away. Jackson was well poor in comparison and hardly surprising given the frustration of last season. 

If there's any chance we can get Osimhen on a favorable deal, we should. 

10 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:

Yes.

Despite Napoli having a very sh*t season, just about every expected goal Osimhen got he put away. Jackson was well poor in comparison and hardly surprising given the frustration of last season. 

If there's any chance we can get Osimhen on a favorable deal, we should. 

25 year old Osimhen in his 8th year of professional football compared to 22 year old Jackson in his 2nd season of profesional football in a team that did far worse and less settled. 

Osimhen is the most obvious big money flop i've ever seen.