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where are our German fans?...I want to know if they think he is good enough for us/will make an impact...his goal return at bayern seems reasonable, but can he make a difference? Is he a good back-up for Drogba?

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where are our German fans?...I want to know if they think he is good enough for us/will make an impact...his goal return at bayern seems reasonable, but can he make a difference? Is he a good back-up for Drogba?

Nothing on his own website yet - here There won't be anything in the forum either - the last message was posted almost 3 years ago, and the player profile hasn't been updated since 2002. Maybe the non-English versions are more up to date, I couldn't say. Apparently his nicknames are:

El Bombardier de Los Andes

El Commandante

El Dios Inca

Pizza

IncaKaiser

He is a great player and he demonstrated it during two years in the Werder Bremen, where he was figure and idol of that club. He is a great forward. He has the South American technique and has been adapted to the speed of the European soccer. We made him a pursuit and we were convinced that his scoring capacity will be profitable in Bayern. He has now the possibility to play in great level championships as the Champions League, and that will be good for him to grow in his skills. We all are very happy with Claudio and sure that he will be one of the best players of the team.

There you go, you learn something every day.

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where are our German fans?...I want to know if they think he is good enough for us/will make an impact...his goal return at bayern seems reasonable, but can he make a difference? Is he a good back-up for Drogba?

Good back-up: yes !

make an big impact: dont think so

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Firstly, what the hell was wrong with buying Tevez? icon_rolleyes.gif

Okay, now that that's off my chest...

Secondly, what can you really tell from a compilation clip of a guy scoring goals? I mean, if you cut together a tape of a guy SCORING, of course he'll look good. It's all the chances he misses that worry you. And this guy scores only 1 in 4 games. And that's in Germany. And looking at some of the defending in the compilation of his goals, it's a hell of a lot easier to score there than here...

But, to cut the guy some slack, "The Bomber" looks to be more a 'fox in the box' type rather than a regular scorer or a scorer of great goals. If I'm allowed to compare without having actually seen him play, I'd say he seems to be more Michael Owen than anyone else. A guy who makes great, intelligent runs and has a very cool head in front of goal.

Someone also said in another thread that he was very much Bayern's 'super-sub'. In which case, that could work well. Because I can't imagine he'll start in front of Drogs, Shev or the rapidly improving (and maybe one day, in Henry's class) Kalou.

Unlike an Eto or a Tevez or a Zlatan or another 'star' name, this guy will know his place, and won't expect to start. So, from a 'team spirit' angle, this is a good buy. But, I believe one should put the quality of the player first, and trust that the team spirit will take care of itself. (Especially with JT and Lamps around)

Can't really see any negatives in his game from the limited highlights real. His dopey hair style notwithstanding. Though I suspect we're not going to see any Jimmy style thunderbolts from 40 yards from the guy. (Which we always love in a player) But then again, Drogba never scores those type of goals, and he got 32 last season...

In conclusion: not the player I would've bought for us. But we'll have to trust that JM knows what he's doing, AND hope that Shev remembers where he left his scoring boots...because I've got a feeling we're going to need our other strikers to get 10-15 goals each next season to help Drogs out, if we've got ANY hope of keeping up with the big spending Man Utd. icon_confused.gif

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Firstly, what the hell was wrong with buying Tevez?

Nothing - I don't believe for one second that this'll be the last signing of the summer. See Dorset's post here Can you argue with that?

Okay, now that that's off my chest...

Secondly, what can you really tell from a compilation clip of a guy scoring goals? I mean, if you cut together a tape of a guy SCORING, of course he'll look good. It's all the chances he misses that worry you. And this guy scores only 1 in 4 games. And that's in Germany. And looking at some of the defending in the compilation of his goals, it's a hell of a lot easier to score there than here...

But, to cut the guy some slack, "The Bomber" looks to be more a 'fox in the box' type rather than a regular scorer or a scorer of great goals. If I'm allowed to compare without having actually seen him play, I'd say he seems to be more Michael Owen than anyone else. A guy who makes great, intelligent runs and has a very cool head in front of goal.

Someone also said in another thread that he was very much Bayern's 'super-sub'. In which case, that could work well. Because I can't imagine he'll start in front of Drogs, Shev or the rapidly improving (and maybe one day, in Henry's class) Kalou.

Unlike an Eto or a Tevez or a Zlatan or another 'star' name, this guy will know his place, and won't expect to start. So, from a 'team spirit' angle, this is a good buy. But, I believe one should put the quality of the player first, and trust that the team spirit will take care of itself. (Especially with JT and Lamps around)

Can't really see any negatives in his game from the limited highlights real. His dopey hair style notwithstanding. Though I suspect we're not going to see any Jimmy style thunderbolts from 40 yards from the guy. (Which we always love in a player) But then again, Drogba never scores those type of goals, and he got 32 last season...

In conclusion: not the player I would've bought for us. But we'll have to trust that JM knows what he's doing, AND hope that Shev remembers where he left his scoring boots...because I've got a feeling we're going to need our other strikers to get 10-15 goals each next season to help Drogs out, if we've got ANY hope of keeping up with the big spending Man Utd. icon_confused.gif

Sounds like this could work out well, whether as a super-sub, or even occasional emergency backup. As long as he's happy with that kind of rule, and he must know that there's no way he'll be a regular started so I don't see how he can't be. As hinted elsewhere, I believe our major signings are yet to come.

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The more I look at his style of play, the more I see him as an interesting choice. (Though I'll take some convincing to say he's a 'good' choice). By interesting I mean to say that if, like Michael Owen, he's someone who makes intelligent runs and knows how to 'read' the play, he might well have been bought to play off the shoulder / just behind Drogs, and feed on his knock ons, etc. And if that's the case, then he could well turn into a very astute bit of business.

Does he have Owen's speed over 5-10 yards though? Because the last thing we need is another player whose legs have gone.

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I am dissapointed, only in that it means with Drogba, Sheva, Pizarro and Kalou on our books, we probably won't be going in for Tevez - which is a shame.

But, from what I have seen of Pizzaro, he is a quality player and will improve the squad from what we currently have. And, coming from Germany, he won't have a huge amount of adjustment to make. The style of play in Germany and England isn't all that different.

P.S. Watching that compilation, the player he looked closest to, in my opinion, is Hernan Crespo.

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P.S. Watching that compilation, the player he looked closest to, in my opinion, is Hernan Crespo.

Surprising that it took so long for someone to say that because "poor man's Crespo" is a tag that is not new to Pizarro, and I think it is a good description.

He is obviously not in the same class as Crespo when it comes to consistency but he is similar in that he plays the offside trap well, moves around the box well, great in the air and has a good first touch. Like Crespo, he also has the ability to surprise defenders by shooting outside the box. As far as I see it that could also describe Shevchenko. Kalou and Drogba are our 'wildcard' strikers, it seems.

Personally, this signing (on yet another free) raises a whole batch of questions for me, but not about how much of a transfer kitty we have or why Roman appears to be so spending-shy.

-Is the club feeling the impact of the "big-spending" tag?

-Is it media pressure getting to the board?

I'm not convinced that either is entirely true, but some might argue otherwise.

It raises questions about Mourinho, and what he is trying to achieve this season. Pizarro, Sidwell, and possibly Alex are all quality signings, but none of them are world-class. This means two things, that the management have recognised and kept faith in the ability of Drogba and Shevchenko in attack by adding Pizarro for depth. Stylistically, he is not hugely different to the other two and therefore cannot be classed as a tactical signing or a "different option". Ditto Sidwell and Alex; neither are stylistically or tactically different from the other defenders or midfielders, and therefore must also be backup signings. The club have bought Mourinho's mantra about a lack of depth costing us on the two big fronts this season, and we have responded effectively and efficiently to Mourinho's requests. Quality back-up, for a fraction of the expected cost. That is something to be happy about in my book; and the fact that we do this while our rivals are on the verge of spending millions is even more heartening.

However, for those of us who want better football, it seems we're in for a long season. These signings will do nothing to boost our creativity or style of play, or the effectiveness of our football. They are simply backups to bolster what we already have and that means that instead of finding a more effective way to play Jose has now more options to serve up the tripe we often watch 30 or 40 games per season

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we got a good and experienced striker for free, the bloke is a perfect buy im my opinion no one will complain about his transfer fee since he has none, he is a top qaulity player and people might be saying they wanted tevez or eto'o etc but why ? we have drogba and sheva two of the worlds best strikers sure sheva never played to his best but how can it get any worse ? kalou is young and looking qaulity and now we have the middle man someone we can rely on instead of another youngster like some have suggested

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In Mourinho's first 2 seasons, he went into them with a big squad and multiple players for each position on the park. This lead to some good silverware but also meant we have players leaving the club unhappy with the lack of time on the pitch at the end of each season. That worked out to be pretty expensive in many respects as we were buying players at a premium and selling them at a discount.

This season just finished. Mourinho decided to take the opposite route and go in with a (relatively) small, thin squad to combat the fact that we were being so wasteful with our transfer funds. This keeps the players at the club happy, but left us very short, very quickly once we had a few injuries.

Now I beleive he has possibly abandoned this and is returning to the days of the big squad but is now trying to do it smarter by purchasing players on cheap/free transfers to fill the holes to give depth to the squad. Yes there will be a lenghty list of departures at the end of the season again, but if you sign the player for nothing (or very little) you can usually sell him on at a profit at the end of the season provided he didn't "cut the mustard" so to speak. I think you have to think of Kezman, Jarosik and (I think) Smertin, when you think of Chelsea's transfer policy for this off-season. None we good enough to ultimately make the grade at Chelsea, but helped give the team a bit of depth while they were here without costing the world (in fact they landed Chelsea a transfer profit).

I should also add, if what I say is true, don't expect to see too much of Sahar, Sinclair and Mancienne next season because it would appear that Mourinho doesn't beleive they are ready to crack the first team and to be honest, I would tend to agree with him (provided that is his opinion).

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