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Those Chelsea fans who wanted a Utd win


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I don't know how you can be a Chelsea fan and smile at that. Again, the ref didn't help us a bit, and pour tactics either. Only positive thing I can see out of this game is Paulo playing well in the back, and well holding back. Well I hope we can find a good manager soon.

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The Ref was a joke yet again giving a red for a yellow and a penalty for a dive. It is just becoming a routine now and we should expect the ref to give us a hard time every match......Did not understand those subs one bit. Roman your a cock and you can f**k off if you do not get a new manger quick

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I trust you are smiling broadly.

Were there actually people who wanted us to lose or just for things to go egg shaped and hope Abramovich would think again about his involvement. I'm not that heartbroken Jose has gone and believe there is a successful life after this, albeit not with Grant, or with Abramovich interfering. If the latter is the case I'd rather see us loose the majority of our stars, RA to sell up and Chelsea return to the good old unpredictable team they used to be without Champions league and world dominance. Deep down I would like to see our youngsters breaking through, Dennis Wise/Gus Poyet at the controls and some MH clone as the chairman.

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Not happy at all - on several levels. Firstly, most of the team played with a Ranieri-esque defeatist attitude. Yes, the sending off was ridiculous, but the selection of Ben Haim could in no way be based on merit. The pen he gave away was a clear pen every single time. So what if Saha took swan dive, Ben Haim shouldn't have stuck a leg out at him to begin with. Tha is intself is enough to lose the game for us, with or without red cards.

So no, I'm not happy, and I won't be until we're rid of Grant and Roman receives a lesson in how not manage a club - the sooner that happens the better. I also don't care what it takes, if it's 10 consecutive losses in a row or having Hull turn us over 6-0. Why? Because this club will never recover until we're rid of Grant and Roman understands you leave the football to the experts. If there ever was a case of the ends justifying the means, this is it.

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Find the discussion - then comment.

I was aware of that thread and I took everything that was said with a pinch of salt. I am bewildered by this weeks events as much as anyone.

I thought Loz was making a reference to something else that was said somewhere else, that i may have missed.

I know you would never really want Chelsea to lose mate. Even if its a 'ends justifying the means' scenario.

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Nothing justifies a Chelsea "fan" wanting Chelsea to lose or not win trophies, absolutely nothing. To those who genuinely did want us to lose today I say f*ck off and glory hunt elsewhere. I've been through far worse sh*t as a Chelsea fan than we have seen this week and have never descended to such a low level as these parasites.

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Maybe time to take a step back as this is suddenly looking like I am having a major pop at Jack.

I don't for one second question Jack's love of Chelsea and I very much doubt anyone who has known Jack on here over the years would question it either. I wasn't singularly targetting Jack in this thread as I am sure a few other people made similar comments and I thought there were others who openly agreed with Jack's sentiment.

I still can't bring myself to even begin to understand your sentiemnt Jack however I don't want this to look like some sort of witch hunt. My apologies if it came across that way.

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Isnt it a csae of what is good for the club in the long term . Look at it this way .

If we start dropping down the table at a rapid rate then it's bye bye Grant , and hopefully hello qualified , experienced , top class replacement .

Somehow i get the feeling theres somebody in R.A. thoughts , lets face it , he cant be f***in serious with this weeks appointment now can he .

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Isnt it a csae of what is good for the club in the long term . Look at it this way .

If we start dropping down the table at a rapid rate then it's bye bye Grant , and hopefully hello qualified , experienced , top class replacement .

Somehow i get the feeling theres somebody in R.A. thoughts , lets face it , he cant be f***in serious with this weeks appointment now can he .

Assuming Abramovich DOES appoint Avram Grant permanently, surely the best thing for the club is for Grant to defy fans expectations and to go on and be a very successfull manager for Chelsea. Surely we want the decision of the Chelsea board to move Mourinho on to end up being the right one. Surely we want the club to win in every match it can now and into the future without exception.

Anything else and you've got to ask yourself, are you really supporting Chelsea here?

I can tell you right now, I beleive appointing Grant permanently will be a mistake if it happens, but you bet your bottom dollar that I will be hoping to be proved wrong.

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I share your concerns though I am more optomistic than you that RA won't go down the route of managing the team by proxy, and that he really just wants a manager at the helm who will play exciting football and maintain a good image for the club.

I should point out that my post wasn't directed at your personally, more a thought that seems to be resonating about the place suggesting that the Chelsea board being proved to have taken the wrong course of action regarding Mourinho situation is somehow desirable and in the best interests of the club.

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I don't mind anyone calling me a fair weather fan - I hate it when it's cold and frosty! icon_wink.gif

Seriously, I'm in pain, I'm in mourning (Mourinho-ing!) and I'm worried - what will become of the club now that The Owner has finally shown his hand. I'm afraid I'm too old to toe the party line, and I'm as surprised at the rest of you that I'm feeling the way I am - in a nutshell I could walk away.

Next Saturday will be the biggest game of my life - how I'll feel walking into Stamford Bridge, listening to the chants for Jose, watching the players possibly going through the motions.

I just don't know.

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I don't for one second question Jack's love of Chelsea and I very much doubt anyone who has known Jack on here over the years would question it either. I wasn't singularly targetting Jack in this thread as I am sure a few other people made similar comments and I thought there were others who openly agreed with Jack's sentiment.

I know Jack is as big a Chelsea fan as anyone else on this site, as am I.

I agreed with Jack's post totally. Although I was never one of Mourinho's biggest fans, I think the way his authority was undermined by Abramovich was a disgrace - and the press conference was highly embarrassing.

My take on Jack's 'hope we lose' comment is that a heavy defeat would show Abramovich just how much he'd f*cked up by getting rid of Jose (and replacing him with a nobody). And in that, I agreed - Abramovich is surrounded by 'yes' men, and needs to see for himself what he's doing to Chelsea.

I went to my first game 40 years ago, and have followed Chelsea all over the country for many years, attending hundreds of games, including the sh*te years (and there were a lot of them) - so anyone who doubts my allegiance to Chelsea can kiss my arse smiley.gif

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The club has become a joke, a soap opera of the worst kind, Eldorado of the football world. They have shot themselves in both feet - biggest club in the world? Don't make me laugh! When Lamps, Drogba, Essien, Ricky, Joey Cole and the others decide to go (January or at the end of the season) where will we be then? What will Chelsea Football Club be? A sh*t-load of money, a bunch of self-satisfied morons who know nothing about football and a team of mercenaries watched by upper-middle class nonces.

I know I'll get hammered for this but they've ripped the guts out of our club, my club. Kenyon, Ab-ram-oh-vich, Greenberg and the rest of them - they taken the club we love and screwed it up and thrown it away.

Can't disagree with this bit of Jacks post, it echos my sentiments entirely!

We're nothing more than a rich-mans plaything! My worst fears have come true!

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Has anyone here even considered the possiblity that Mourinho lost the dressing room and that Abramovich is actually doing the right thing by bringing and new manager in and that he doesn't interefere in first team matters?

I'm not saying its necessarilly the case, but its just as plausible idea as the one of Abramovich forcing players on Mourinho and undermining him if you think about it.

So wheres the threads praising Roman for sacking Mourinho for the sake of Chelsea FC?

Or perhaps the thread critisising Mourinho for perhaps walking out on the club in a time of need? (taking a huge payout in the process)

This debate is very one sided and very lacking in any concrete information. Maybe people should start looking at the evidence instead of buying into this paper talk.

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Has anyone here even considered the possiblity that Mourinho lost the dressing room and that Abramovich is actually doing the right thing by bringing and new manager in and that he doesn't interefere in first team matters?

I'm not saying its necessarilly the case, but its just as plausible idea as the one of Abramovich forcing players on Mourinho and undermining him if you think about it.

1 So wheres the threads praising Roman for sacking Mourinho for the sake of Chelsea FC?

2Or perhaps the thread critisising Mourinho for perhaps walking out on the club in a time of need? (taking a huge payout in the process)

3 This debate is very one sided and very lacking in any concrete information. Maybe people should start looking at the evidence instead of buying into this paper talk.

1 Perhaps your the only one that has this line of thought!

2 he was sacked.....hence the payout!

3 How can we look at the evidence when you say ''very lacking in any concrete information'' 259.gif

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