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Butch

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People are going on and on about Chelsea having a bad start and not going to be able to emulate the previous two championship-winning seasons. Well, I have something to say about that - on current results, we're going to beat last season's record haul of points!

2005/6

February 11, 2006: Middlesbrough 3 - 0 Chelsea

March 25, 2006: Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City

May 2, 2006: Blackburn 1 - 0 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 1, DRAWN 0, LOST 2, SCORED 2, and CONCEDED 4 for 3 POINTS.

2006/7

August 13, 2006: Chelsea 3 - 0 Man City

August 20, 2006: Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Chelsea

August 27, 2006: Blackburn 0 - 2 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 2, DRAWN 0, LOST 1, SCORED 6, and CONCEDED 2 for 6 POINTS.

That means we've scored 4 more goals, conceded 2 less, for 3 more points than from the corresponding fixtures last season. Reason for other clubs to rejoice? I think not. Misguided "celebrations" if you ask me ;) .

Now, I wonder if any of the so-called pundits would take the time or effort to dig up these statistics. Of course not. What fun would it be for anyone else?

Cheers,

Butch

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Shame on you Butch - I thought you were above distorting facts & figures.

Surely last seasons Blackburn defeat has a lot to do with playing them when the lads were still in celebration mode and the result mattered not one iota. A better comparison would just be first three results from last season, regardless of opposition. Haven't got time to check and memory is not what it was, but I guess 3 wins?

So we're not better!!!

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I agree with Nibs.

It's much more fun to compare this seasons first three games against last seasons.

2006/2007

Chelsea 3 - 0 Man City

Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Chelsea

Blackburn 0 - 2 Chelsea

2 wins, 1 lost, 6 goals scored, 2 conceded: 6 points

2005/2006

Wigan Athletic v Chelsea 0-1

Chelsea v Arsenal 1-0

Chelsea v West Bromwich Albion 4-0

3 wins, 0 lost, 6 goals scored, 0 conceded: 9 points

A bit better last season and that win against Arsenal was really sweet. But lets not forget that we were in big trouble against Wigan. They almost scored in the end, but thanks to Crespo we managed to score in like the 93rd minute or so. Nice goal though.

This season we have had a very short preseason which is why the team isn't 100% yet. We met Boro away, something we never seem to like.

So all in all I think we should be fairly happy about the start of the season. I know the fans of Manure and Assenal has had a field day over our loss against Boro, but since we beat Blackburn they've become rather quite.

Let us now first beat Charlton and then we beat Liverpool while Assenal beats Manure and suddenly we might actually be in first position. That would be really nice.

Finally I would also remind all of you who thinks Manure has had a great start of the season that they actually started the last season with 3 wins too. They had scored 7 goals and conceded 0 by then. This season they have scored 10 and conceded 2. So it's not that big difference really. And we all know who won the title in the end.

So I can't understand why the fans of Manure's already celebrating like they have won the title. I guess they have to celebrate while they can. In no time at all they will lose the top spot and yet again they'll have to chase Chelsea who'll be cruising in first position biggrin.gif

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Three matches against different opposition cannot be compared - I'm sure you are aware of that. All teams have competitors that they do well against, and some have ones they do well against. You simply cannot compare them.

Sure, the Blackburn match didn't mean a lot to us on the tail end of the season, but still I am only saying that results-wise and points-wise we are ahead of last season. I am not saying we're playing better. Then again, playing well in itself doesn't win you championships (and I'm aware playing well incrases your chances of winning points). Points on the board does.

Cheers,

Butch

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Three matches against different opposition cannot be compared - I'm sure you are aware of that. All teams have competitors that they do well against, and some have ones they do well against. You simply cannot compare them.

Sure, the Blackburn match didn't mean a lot to us on the tail end of the season, but still I am only saying that results-wise and points-wise we are ahead of last season. I am not saying we're playing better. Then again, playing well in itself doesn't win you championships (and I'm aware playing well incrases your chances of winning points). Points on the board does.

Cheers,

Butch

I dont need stats to tell me we are doing might fine at present, the REAL contenders to us have not actually played any tough matches yet imo.

Lets see what happens when Manure drop points aginst the spuds this weekend.

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Lets see what happens when Manure drop points aginst the spuds this weekend.

I can guarantee you that Man U won't drop any points this weekend.

(They don't play until next weekend. ;) ).

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2005/6

February 11, 2006: Middlesbrough 3 - 0 Chelsea

March 25, 2006: Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City

May 2, 2006: Blackburn 1 - 0 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 1, DRAWN 0, LOST 2, SCORED 2, and CONCEDED 4 for 3 POINTS.

2006/7

August 13, 2006: Chelsea 3 - 0 Man City

August 20, 2006: Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Chelsea

August 27, 2006: Blackburn 0 - 2 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 2, DRAWN 0, LOST 1, SCORED 6, and CONCEDED 2 for 6 POINTS.

2005: Chelsea 1 - 1 Charlton

2006: Chelsea 2 - 1 Charlton

Add the Charlton result to the original list and by my recollection, we have now WON 3 and LOST 1, compared to WON 1, DRAWN 1 and LOST 2 from the corresponding fixtures from last season.

I am not saying we're playing better from a performance stand point, but isn't it good to know that despite not firing on all cylinders we are already 5 points better off than last year's results?

Cheers,

Butch

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Although it's good to see that we're ahead on points as opposed to the corresponding fixtures of last season, it doesn't mean anything as long as you don't take our rivals' results into account as well. Does anyone know how Manure did in their corresponding 4 fixtures last season?

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Add the Charlton result to the original list and by my recollection, we have now WON 3 and LOST 1, compared to WON 1, DRAWN 1 and LOST 2 from the corresponding fixtures from last season.

I am not saying we're playing better from a performance stand point, but isn't it good to know that despite not firing on all cylinders we are already 5 points better off than last year's results?

Be good if you can keep this going Butch. Trouble is at some point you'll have to change the heading of the thread, as I stand by the view that we look a fair bit worse than last season at the moment and I will be totally amazed if we end the season with a higher points total than we did in the last two.

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Add the Charlton result to the original list and by my recollection, we have now WON 3 and LOST 1, compared to WON 1, DRAWN 1 and LOST 2 from the corresponding fixtures from last season.

I am not saying we're playing better from a performance stand point, but isn't it good to know that despite not firing on all cylinders we are already 5 points better off than last year's results?

Be good if you can keep this going Butch. Trouble is at some point you'll have to change the heading of the thread, as I stand by the view that we look a fair bit worse than last season at the moment and I will be totally amazed if we end the season with a higher points total than we did in the last two.

Prepare to be amazed icon_lol.gif

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I think that the season 2004/05 was the best for Chelsea even though every year we get bigger names and "higher quality" players. I think that the problem is that they just played better as a team. We won the league for the first time in 50 years, and we were unlucky that year to get kicked out in the semi-final of the Champions League (that was not a goal at Liverpool). I thought that we would take home that trophy too how confident I was. I really think that the team spirit from that year is missing.

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Unfortunately due to being overseas I have yet to see Chelsea in action this season. Nevertheless:

Last seaon our team formation was very largely the same as the season before.

This year we are missing most of the wide players at the start, are playing with 2 strikers and Ballack has changed the mid field significantly.

Add that to the world cup let downs and its no surprise we are off to a slow start.

This weekend will provide an excellent test with us at home to Lpool and Manu playing Arsenal.

Here's hoping the table on Monday is telling the right story.

I recall last season talking about our slow start and how Lampard wasn't playing well. My coment then is the same as today.

Good teams tend to start slow and finish strong, players just can't keep the mental effort up for all season.

Both Manu and Arsenal have a lot of young players. Experience suggests that the pressure of a long season tells on young players and they tend to lose mental focus.

We still have something in reserve.

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Definitely an improvement, I would say. We managed to win back-to-back titles without a top quality striker (Crespo was on and off). Now we have Sheva the best. Essien has blossomed so well this season now. Ballack has settled down nicely and might really make an impact. Boulahrouz is also right on the money. My only worry is Kalou who has not impressed yet.

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People are going on and on about Chelsea having a bad start and not going to be able to emulate the previous two championship-winning seasons. Well, I have something to say about that - on current results, we're going to beat last season's record haul of points!

2005/6

February 11, 2006: Middlesbrough 3 - 0 Chelsea

March 25, 2006: Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City

May 2, 2006: Blackburn 1 - 0 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 1, DRAWN 0, LOST 2, SCORED 2, and CONCEDED 4 for 3 POINTS.

2006/7

August 13, 2006: Chelsea 3 - 0 Man City

August 20, 2006: Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Chelsea

August 27, 2006: Blackburn 0 - 2 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 2, DRAWN 0, LOST 1, SCORED 6, and CONCEDED 2 for 6 POINTS.

That means we've scored 4 more goals, conceded 2 less, for 3 more points than from the corresponding fixtures last season. Reason for other clubs to rejoice? I think not. Misguided "celebrations" if you ask me :thumbsdown: .

Now, I wonder if any of the so-called pundits would take the time or effort to dig up these statistics. Of course not. What fun would it be for anyone else?

Cheers,

Butch

We may be improving in performance so far over these clubs but there are other clubs in the top bracket which have also improve in performances.

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This season we have had a very short preseason which is why the team isn't 100% yet. We met Boro away, something we never seem to like.

Time enogh now to throw away the pre season blues (no pun intended). We are fully into the real Premiership season seven games down and counting.

What you may be considering is the smaller squad we have now and hope that no major injuries or suspensions occur.

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2005/6

February 11, 2006: Middlesbrough 3 - 0 Chelsea

March 25, 2006: Chelsea 2 - 0 Man City

May 2, 2006: Blackburn 1 - 0 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 1, DRAWN 0, LOST 2, SCORED 2, and CONCEDED 4 for 3 POINTS.

2006/7

August 13, 2006: Chelsea 3 - 0 Man City

August 20, 2006: Middlesbrough 2 - 1 Chelsea

August 27, 2006: Blackburn 0 - 2 Chelsea

PLAYED 3, WON 2, DRAWN 0, LOST 1, SCORED 6, and CONCEDED 2 for 6 POINTS.

2005: Chelsea 1 - 1 Charlton

2006: Chelsea 2 - 1 Charlton

Add the Charlton result to the original list and by my recollection, we have now WON 3 and LOST 1, compared to WON 1, DRAWN 1 and LOST 2 from the corresponding fixtures from last season.

I am not saying we're playing better from a performance stand point, but isn't it good to know that despite not firing on all cylinders we are already 5 points better off than last year's results?

Cheers,

Butch

This was my arguement when Boro beat us this season. I said we'd improved on 2 goals on the previous season. So.. improve every result by 2 and we spank United 5-0 at home... lovely jubbly. Bloomin Surrey Reds.

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Thought it was time to resurrect this thread. Not just because I like saying told you so, but as soon as we let Eidur, Gallas & Duffer go and I saw we'd brought in Ballack and Sheva, I knew we would struggle to do as well this season.

The injuries have had a huge impact - I do realise that. But even with JT and Cech the defence was never gonna be as solid with no Gallas around. He was so realiable ALL of the time that we just took him for granted (and the club did that literally :cry: ). As good a left back Cole might turn out to be he can never make up for the loss of Gallas. And Joe? Well I've missed seeing him play as there is no other player in our squad who can do the things he can. But lets face it, even when he is fit and available, Mourinho doesn't always pick him and he certainly isn't one of the untouchables, so we cannot really use Joe's injury as an excuse.

We look nowhere near as good as we have done last couple of seasons but what is more depressing is that the competition doesn't look to have improved much - they are benefiting from our squad changes. Anyone who is still saying Ballack and Sheva will come good - just give them time are talking utter bollox. I don't want to read one more comment about how they are doing ok and lets give them a bit longer. These are meant to be WORLD CLASS players for f**ks sake - how f**king long do they need? Neither are up to it - both are past their best and I'll be surprised if they are still here come the beginning of next season.

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