tommyhcfc Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Glad we seem to be making a big effort to strengthen the squad this year. A couple of new defenders would be great and M.Richards and S.Ramos would be perfect. Drogba to Milan could be on and Lamps and Jose off to Barca.Replacements looking good. Messi, Ribery, Villa all still fair possibilites, Kaka unlikely now though. Really looking forward to seeing our squad next season. Abramovich willing to offer a lot for Messi (is desperate for him). Not overkeen on Bosingwa but havent seen too much of him. Any more gossip, news or ideas on the possible sales and signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 I see no point in buying Richards and Ramos as that would leave us overloaded. We have absolutely no problem in the centre with JT, Carvalho and Alex. Now you could argue that to be totally safe we should have a fourth centre half of quality however can you see any one of Alex, Richards or Ramos being a fourth choice? Alternatively you could be thinking of both as right backs which brings about the same problem - neither of them are going to be happy as anything but first choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyhcfc Posted May 11, 2008 Author Share Posted May 11, 2008 I agree but one of the two would be nice to play right back!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 open your eyes !!! We need pace - wingers !!!! We never replaced Robben or Duff and we paid for it. We never replaced Gallas either. Paid for it... Or Eidur or Crespo :=( That is why we have not won the PL in the last 2 PL seasons. It is not rocket science !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT26CFC Posted May 11, 2008 Share Posted May 11, 2008 How about Drogba, what's he done for us this season. It's as if he chooses when he wants to play good, what was it arsenal and liverpool in the CL. Other than that he was away in africa and comes back thinking he's top sh*t and does nothing for the team. Next season do we bring in the youth? Or sign more people, Messi i cannot see comming the only person would be villa. Speed is definatley absent, i remember robben running up and down those flanks with such speed and skill. And we need two consistent strikers. The back's good, i'd like to see ivanovic play, maybe introduce kakuta and di santo in some games, Sinclair (who beats Malouda in my opinion) sahar possibly. obviously don't throw the youth into big matches, but test them out. Sorry everyone im just really angry right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Next season it looks like we will be defaintly going for Flair.. that's what Roman wants and alot of us want that aswell. Apparently we have signed Bosignwa already for 20.5million euros according to the FC Porto website so the full back slot has been filled. As for the wingers two names come to mind, we won't be getting Messi and im sure every knows that. The two names for me that come to mind are Ricardo Quaresma and Joaquin Sanchez. Quaresma has so much creativity and flair which would bring alot to the club however he does look the greedy type of player but look at what Man Utd done too Ronaldo? As for the other name, we really need to look at what's happening at Valencia, they have world class players but the club has just gone upside down and they just avoided relegation. We were in for Joaquin not so long ago he was class back then and he still is, he has pace, power, strength, the odd trick or two and of course he can cross the ball! As for someone in the middle of the park i really don't see us making a move for anyone if both Lampard and Ballack stay, the only person that would fill one of those shoes would be Van der vaart. Striker? Looks like there's gonna be no Drogba, which means our style of football will change. Only one that i can think of is David Villa, sure you got Klass Huntelaar but you got a striker who is proven in the dutch league and you got a striker who is proven in the spanish league. Just really don't think we should sign someone so young and expect them to bang in 20+ goals a season. Well they are my thoughts about our transfers, there's gonna be alot of players leaving aswell so should be a very interesting summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueday3 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I agree with sheva i like quaresma as a winger but i have heard he has some attitude problems, which wouldnt bode well with the superstar players (not so much at winger maybe) that we have. I think the defense will already be better next year without changes if cech and jt can stay healthy for most of the year. Huntelaar i think is a good player sure he is from the dutch league but according to wikipedia he has 72 goals in 80 games, an incredible ratio as well as 6 goals in 11 national appearances. But i see that alot of times it looks like the players when they cant get anything going try launching balls over the top to drogba who can sometimes make something out of it because of his size, something we will miss if he leaves. Drogbas finishing has seemed a little poor recently. wasted a bunch of good chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 True his ratio is pretty awesome but didn't Kezman have some stupidly good ratio, im not saying he's a bad signing just think we need someone around the 25 age mark to lead the line or someone with experience in the big leagues and champions league. Next season i'd like to see a new face upfront with Anelka and Di santo breaking into the first team. I'd also love Sheva to stay with us but it looks unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Quaresma seems okay but I cant help but thinking that people want him to be our c.ronaldo. He is Portugese and a pacy winger. I think Ronaldo has lot more than that. I want Chelsea chasing different qualities in players and not try to imitate Manu or Barca. It is like this Villa guy. People want him to be our Torres. I know I'm over generalizing but these thoughts always come to my mind when we talk about Villa and Quaresma. I would really like to get Huntelaar as I think he could be something special in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coombsie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 If as reported in the Observer yesterday, Chelsea have a transfer kitty of £130m, Why not just buy next years Prem, ECL, FA cup et al and bring in Torres £35m, Messi, £50m and Ronaldo £45m i mean guys, come on............................................................... Its time to bring in our own talent like Gael Kakuta, Franco di Santo, Morten Nielsen and Frank nouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkw Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 so do you think blooding 16/17 year olds next season to replace seasoned international footballers is the way to go coombsie? sorry mate but thats absurd (i hope your just messing). the aquad will probably get a major overhaul this summer. players like swp, ben haim, beletti, sidwell, pizarro will be shipped out. drogba will probably leave, along with sheva. so we will be 2 maybe 3 strikers light, at least one winger and possibly a keeper. ivanovic will be backup centre back along with alex. bosingwa looks like 1st choice right back with paulo backup. we desperately need some pace and creativity. we have athleticism and power in the middle but not massive amounts of creativity. also, if theirs £130 mill, how much of that is to be generated by sales? im sure we could get at least £20 mill from the sales of swp, sidwell etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I think i agree with dkw in the respect that it's maybe a bit too soon for the likes of Kakuta and Di Santo, but with any luck, one of them may break through somewhat. There is far too much deadwood in our squad now, which as we know, has been in decline for some time. Either Paulo or Belleti look to be gone now with the arrival of Bosingwa. The likes of Piza, Ben Haim, and Siddy HAVE TO GO, and need to be replaced with quality. The reason we trounced everyone in our first season under Jose, was that player for player, no-one had a better squad. We had the best bench going. But that is'nt the case now. Cutting our losses with both Sheva, and SWP, would also be a step in the right direction.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rahul Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Bosingwa imo is a good signing, and should answer our right back problems next season. We don't need anything else in defense. We could certainly use a bit of flair coming into the squad, but before we buy anyone, he should be tested for attitude and character as well, rather than just quality. That rules Quaresma out for me...he has quality but is a selfish player and obviously too much into showboating. A player like Aguero will certainly answer that question...he's likened to Messi and he could be the answer to our attacking problems. I expect Mikel to make the defensive midfielder position his next season, with Maka playing bit part role. Maka is no doubt still a quality defensive midfielder but he sometimes lacks in passing...and he's obviously getting old. With Ballack, Lamps and Essien we have enough strength in the middle. I hope di Santo makes the first team squad next season, and could play in cup matches to the very least. Also coming back from loan would be Sinclair, and he too could provide depth in our attacking department. If Drogba leaves, we need someone of his style of play, so that we could revert to plan B in times of emergency. Here, I'm assuming our Plan A would be crisp attacking football, with a lot of passing and possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coombsie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 so do you think blooding 16/17 year olds next season to replace seasoned international footballers is the way to go coombsie? sorry mate but thats absurd (i hope your just messing). the aquad will probably get a major overhaul this summer. players like swp, ben haim, beletti, sidwell, pizarro will be shipped out. drogba will probably leave, along with sheva. so we will be 2 maybe 3 strikers light, at least one winger and possibly a keeper. ivanovic will be backup centre back along with alex. bosingwa looks like 1st choice right back with paulo backup. we desperately need some pace and creativity. we have athleticism and power in the middle but not massive amounts of creativity. also, if theirs £130 mill, how much of that is to be generated by sales? im sure we could get at least £20 mill from the sales of swp, sidwell etc. Must admit to being a bit tongue in cheek. Although I am fed up with our Club being constantly accused of "buying" our titles. I am not advocating putting the kids straight into the First Team, but I would have these lads playing with the first team squad to learn from the super stars. Lets face it they cannot be any worse than SWP, Sidwell, Ben Haim, Pizzarro etc. If you are good enough you are old enough !!! How old was Messi when he broke into the Barca first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coombsie Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Strengthening will definitely be needed, to the hard core first team. Drogs looks destined for Milan or wherever Jose turns up, I'll be very suprised if Lamps stays and SWP, Sidwell, Pizzaro, Ben Haim, Sheva, Belletti (was going to also include Malouda!) are simply NOT good enough. I reckon this lot might recoup £30m + so if it is true that a kitty of £130m exists, we are going to be VERY VERY busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 If you are good enough you are old enough !!! by that logic, which I agree with, two consecutive managers have deemed the youth players not good enough (yet). though kakuta looks like he might be and I'd love woods to take sidwell's place in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalpitv Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 I'd love woods to take sidwell's place in the squad. I wouldn't want that to happen to any player. He would be better off making regular appearances for the reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 well he can do both, surely. take sidwell's minutes in the carling cup and odd league appearance, plus continue his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT26CFC Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 what are we doing with Crespo, shouldn't we just sell him to Inter. It doesn't look like he wants to come back to cfc. Take that money and put it in the "Buy Huntelaar Fund" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack h Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 what are we doing with Crespo, shouldn't we just sell him to Inter. It doesn't look like he wants to come back to cfc. Take that money and put it in the "Buy Huntelaar Fund" Crespo is only our player still for a matter of weeks, His contract was up at the end of the season (i think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT26CFC Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 i think august Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Must admit to being a bit tongue in cheek. Although I am fed up with our Club being constantly accused of "buying" our titles. I couldn't give a rats what we are accused of by bitter and jealous oppostion fans. If we really are going to not spend and find results suffer for the sake of winning an argument, then we are giving those fans exactly what they want. I am not advocating putting the kids straight into the First Team, but I would have these lads playing with the first team squad to learn from the super stars. Lets face it they cannot be any worse than SWP, Sidwell, Ben Haim, Pizzarro etc. I think you'll find they can be. SWP, Sidwell and Ben Haim were all at the very least above average, regular, consistant performers for premiership sides prior to joining Chelsea. SWP was probably the form winger in the league in his last season or two at Man City, Sidwell was one of Readings best players and Ben Haim was a nailed on starter and important member of one of the tighested defences in the Premiership. Pizzaro was a regular performer and kept Roque Santa Cruz out of the Bayern Munich team. The alternatives like Sinclair, Woods and Sahar have no premiership experience outside the odd appearance off the bench Chelsea (Woods none at all). Why should these players be fast tracked into the first team when others with better and more consistant records are deemed not good enough?. Seriously, I really want to know why coming through the youth system means the bar should be lowered. Why shouldn't these players have to go out on loan and prove that they are Premiership ready before making the very big step up to one of the best sides in the world?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 It is a fair point Qaz however there comes a point where we have to start to blood youngsters in our first team rather than someone elses as whoever we send these players on loan to is not going to be anywhere near the standard of our side. Blooding them in our team allows us to see whether they really do have the potential (and I mean potential rather than ability right now) but also sends a message to other youngsters that being at Chelsea isn't a waste of time. If my kid was currently 17 and a great prospect and he was offered a contract at Chelsea and one at Arsenal my heart would be telling him Chelsea but if I was thinking entirely of his career my head would say Arsenal. We need to find a balance. Just now I am not all that concerned about it as I think we neglected our youth policy for so long that we need to give it time to develop however if in a further 2-3 years time we are still looking like we will always just spend big money to fill gaps I will start to be very disappointed in the way the club is progressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomP Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 As far as squad strengthening goes - the glaringly obvious hole in our squad is the lack of pace and lack of creativity. If we are going to spend big money, please let it be to address these two issues. We haven't played with pace since the Robben and Duff days, and this season, Joe Cole has been our only truely creative something-out-of-nothing player - and as much as we like him, he is not in the same league as a Ronaldo, a Ronaldinho, a Kaka or a Messi. If the squad stayed exactly as is, with no departures, I would be quite happy for this to be the only signing. But, the reality is that in all probably Drogba will go, and will need to be replaced - by a new striker and a new system of playing, which will mean a rethink of our squad from the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT26CFC Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 o and this in, Cech's leaving us now http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... 155569.ece is the Sun getting that bored..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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