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he was a shambles leading england tonight. He just doesnt have the passion as someone like steven gerrard for liverpool. Take it off him and give it to joe cole whos with me

What's Joe Cole doing with you?

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He just doesnt have the passion as someone like steven gerrard for liverpool.

That has got to be memorable quote of the year on this forum! Well done Liverpoolboy1900, your name will be in lights within the quotes at the bottom, that was quality!

All that passion from old Stevie G eh! Can't beat it, the sort of passion that wins you Premiership Trophies!

I hear his bird shares more passion than he does!

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wow, it's people like this guy that just infuriate me. Dumbest quote of the day goes to you 1900, now go back to Liverpool

come on guys he has a point...the way gerrard f*cked things up twice on the matter of seconds in the second half was done in such a passionate way...i was full of admiration as he ended up flat on his arse

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come on guys he has a point...the way gerrard f*cked things up twice on the matter of seconds in the second half was done in such a passionate way...i was full of admiration as he ended up flat on his arse

so true, how could i look past that ;)

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he was a shambles leading england tonight. He just doesnt have the passion as someone like steven gerrard for liverpool. Take it off him and give it to joe cole whos with me?

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Alright laaa!!

What have Chelsea got to do with 1900,we didn't even exist then......

Was that the year that Westminster bridge opened??

....I thought you boys were up on your 'istory.

Do us all a favour scallydownsouth and stop signing here,go out and get a J-O-B!!!

John Terry is a hero and you are a scouser!!

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i have a suspicion thay your on your own :D

Gerrard captain fantastic, was wearing the arm-band for the Croatia game!! Was also partnered with Barry in that game and the one we lost against Russia, it makes me laugh that people go on about Lampard not playing well for England, but he wasn't envolved in the games we needed to win (or not lose) in the run-in for qualifying.

Just copied this article on Gerrard you might find of interest:

Croatia debacle reinforces the assertion that Steven Gerrard is NOT world class

Steven Gerrard’s abject ability as a Captain was exposed once again as England suffered ignominious defeat to Croatia.

I’ve said it once and I'll say it again: Gerrard is not a leader. He does not have the strength of character, the fighting mentality or motivational power to be a consistently effective Captain. This has been proven time and time again for club and country.

England were wretched in every respect, and the so called ‘Golden Generation’ were exposed for what they really are: Limited, technically inept primadonnas, drunk on their own hype, whose competitive edge and work ethic has been dulled by rampant egos and shameful avarice.

For once, Alan Hansen had the guts to tell it like it is when he said ‘I can't believe how poor Steven Gerrard was’. Gerrard has been poor for England for a long time, but his international failings have been glossed over by the fawning media and the blind faith brigade who refuse to accept the truth.

Yes – I said Gerrard is NOT world class. The media hype him and every other English player with a smidgen of talent as ‘world class’ but the evidence does not support this hollow assertion. If Gerrard IS world class, where is the proof?

I can already guess the response from the ‘Steven Gerrard can do no wrong’ club: But what about that goal he scored against Olympiakos?! What about Istanbul!? What about the FA Cup final?! But Alex Ferguson said so!

These things do not make a player world class! Gerrard is an excellent premiership-class player – a true example of a typical English midfielder: Lots of huffing, puffing, tackling and endless stamina but precious little skill, creativity, footballing intelligence or consistent technical ability.

Truly world class players deliver not only in their domestic league but on the INTERNATIONAL stage. Any player who does not deliver in the big tournaments cannot be considered world class. There are of course exceptions to this, such as George Best, who never got to play in a major tournament, but players like him are a special case. The whole idea of ‘world class ability’ needs to be redefined, and in my view, achievement on the international stage should be the main criterion.

Steven Gerrard has been a consistent failure on the international stage, and his impact on England has been less than negligible. In Euro 2004 and World Cup 2006, the hype about Gerrard was sickening. Did he deliver? Of course not.

But someone else is always to blame for Gerrard’s failings: It’s the Manager’s incompetence; It’s failing to play him in the centre; It’s Lampard restricting him; the system was wrong for him and blah blah blah. No – Gerrard, like his overpaid pals, is just not good enough on the world stage.

The likes of Zidane, Ronaldinho, Maradona, Cruyff, Platini, Beckenbauer, Puskas, Eusebio, Pele etc all consistently delivered on the world stage – that is why they can justifiably be labeled world class. Gerrard does not deserve to be named in the same sentence as the true legends of the game, and to even think that he is on a par with the true world class greats is a complete joke.

Gerrard talks a good game, but actions speak louder than words. I cringed in the pre-Croatia build up as Gerrard issued his rallying cry of how England had to ‘die out there’ and how the players had to ‘give everything they’ve got’. Gerrard does not have the motivational ability to inspire players to give it everything they’ve got!

This was obvious against Croatia; there was a disgraceful lack urgency in the players as the Croatians were given all the room in the world to weave their magic. Gerrard barely said a world all night to his team-mates, and the real lack of proper leadership on the field was palpable.

All we’ve heard over the last week is how much Gerrard loves England, and what an honour it is to Captain the team, and how the Croatia game would be the biggest moment of his career. So where was the passion Stevie?! Where was your fabled ‘world class’ ability?! Where was the much vaunted passion and inspirational leadership?

A real Captain would not have let the heads go down after Scott Carson’s howler, and would’ve had a quick word with the stricken keeper in an attempt to restore his confidence. A real Captain would have been pushing the players on and cajoling all night. A real Captain would have fought tooth and nail to keep the confidence and self-belief flowing. Gerrard did none of these things. As per usual in the big games, whether it’s England or Liverpool, he hid and singularly failed to shoulder the responsibility.

After the game, Gerrard came out with a real corker:

"The effort was there but the result wasn't. That's what was importantâ€.

What effort?! The magnitude of the game seemed lost on England’s apathetic losers as they ambled around the pitch without breaking sweat for the entire game. Just as Steve McClaren didn’t want to get his hair wet, the England players didn’t want to get their hands dirty, and as the so-called ‘inspirational leader’, Gerrard must take the lion’s share of the blame.

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Just copied this article on Gerrard you might find of interest:

Gerrard showed his lack of credentials for the captaincy when we got a penalty in the Croatia game. 2-0 down, huge pressure. Did he step up like a captain and slam it in? No, he meekly handed the ball to Lamps, the whipping boy for most England fans.

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look im not a liverpool fan i hate those murderers im just sayin he won them the european cup dragged them back agaist the greek team and again in the final .summat we'v not done yet although we would of if are captain great hadnt have fell over his own hype with big phil it could be are year if you lot back him with me. (unlikely)

secondly maybe i was a bit drastic dont take it off terry but he really needs to inspire them england boys it was left to joey cole n hes well....

thirdly i drink lager.

fourthly im 67 years of age and retired i am and ex major who has been all over the world to fight for his country so telling me to get a job is rather rude and have seen everythin unlike most of you imature kids.

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fourthly im 67 years of age and retired i am and ex major who has been all over the world to fight for his country .

Typical scouser, even gets the state to pay for his travel costs.

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he was a shambles leading england tonight. He just doesnt have the passion as someone like steven gerrard for liverpool. Take it off him and give it to joe cole whos with me?

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you are a d**khead mate nobody is with you now f**k off to wherever it is you come from.w**ker

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A truly thought provoking thread,Gerrard isn't nowhere near as good as Lamps,and we all know what the other prem fans think of him,if he had ambition he would leave the "pool" and join a big club (but not us,we don't want or need) He will finish his career like Matt le tiss or steve Bull,a one club career boy,can't knock his commitment for the scouse,but as said previously he flatters to deceive at international level.

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evening all..I'm Rick in a previous life,when dear old bolderbollocks used to wind everyone up :lol: and this thread has wound me up..gerrard is a terrific player,but certainly is not a great captain..remember last season when mouthy mascherano couldn't keep his gob shut,and got sent off..stevie g just walked by in a little world of his own,totally oblivious to his team losing their midfielder,when perhaps he should've grabbed hold of him and given him a slap..still never mind eh!..cheers

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