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Chelsea Football Club can confirm the signing of Mineiro who was released by Hertha Berlin as a free agent at the end of last season.

The deal, the details of which will remain confidential, will see him remain at the club until the end of the season. Mineiro becomes the third Brazilian in the squad, linking up with manager Luiz Felipe Scolari and his backroom staff alongside Juliano Belletti and Alex.

A defensive midfielder, he has 24 caps for Brazil, and was a member of the 2006 World Cup squad, as well as appearing against England at Wembley in 2007. Mineiro was released by Hertha at the end of last season, and has since been unattached.

Upon announcing the imminent arrival, Scolari explained the decision to sign the 33-year-old. 'He is a player that I need because I lost Michael Essien for six months. I have one midfielder like him, Mikel. 'So this week he will not play but maybe after 15 days to two weeks, he is ready to play normal games. He needs to play some games in the reserve team, and for me it is very good because I have one more player in this position. If not I have to put in Belletti or Ferreira, or Ballack, and they are not for this position. 'I say to fans of Chelsea, if they remember Makelele, Mineiro is the same. Good positionally, a very good marker. He is a man that works for the other players and he is also a good man outside of the pitch.'

Mineiro spent 18 months in the German capital, scoring twice in 36 league appearances, including a debut strike against Hamburg.

Prior to that the player, whose full name is Carlos Luciano da Silva, had played his entire career in his homeland, representing Sao Paulo and Sao Caetano after beginning his career with Ponte Preta.

While at Sao Paulo, he scored the goal that defeated Liverpool in the 2005 Fifa Club World Championship. We are delighted to welcome him to Stamford Bridge, and wish him well in his time here.

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Maka wanted to go so that wasn't an option.

What annoys me is that Scolari comes out and says that we needed Mineiro due to Essien's injury meaning that we only have one player who can play in the defensive midfield role (i.e. Mikel)

Does he now know his squad? There is a bloke on our books called Michael Ballack who I believe is reasonably well known who can also play there and in a worst case scenario of both Mikel and Ballack being unavailable we could play someone like Ivanovic or Belletti there or, play a different formation or be even more daring and play someone like Michael Woods.

Based on the fact Di Santo only got a few minutes tonight even though we were 3-0 up and cruising after 49 minutes I think you can forget all about youngsters getting much playing time under Scolari.

This is a totally unnecessary signing.

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Capped by Brazil 24 times, so he can't be a bad player, can he? I always remember that world cup winner called Roque Junior through :D This is purely a Big Phil sigining, maybe he knows something none of us know. We have enough cover in the midfield even if one of the Ballack and Obi take a break(god forbid). It's somewhat Comparable to Tiago ( and the loan of Maniche), Jose had no real needs to sign him, but he bought Tiago because he liked him, and Tiago was on his way after a year ( although he's a decent player). Hopefully we arent paying him 120k a week. Even if it doesnt work out, no one call him him a flop because he's a free agent.

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There is a bloke on our books called Michael Ballack who I believe is reasonably well known who can also play there and in a worst case scenario of both Mikel and Ballack being unavailable we could play someone like Ivanovic or Belletti there or, play a different formation or be even more daring and play someone like Michael Woods.

Yep - agree with that. Nothing against Mineiro (who is probably a good experienced professional), but it is a slap in the face to Michael Woods and the youth setup in general.

I mean, signing someone like this is effectively telling Woods that even if Essien, Mikel and Ballack are all injured at the same time, and we're not prepared to Belletti or Ivanovic (or Alex, who I belive has also played as a holding midfielder in the past) slightly out of position, you are still not good enough. Even though Woods has been one of the consistantly top performers at reserve level for at least the last 12 months.

I'm beginning to think that Scolari's initial statements on wanting to promote youth players was a lot of empty talk designed to please the fans, and nothing more.

Anway, I suppose you can't be too dissapointed with Big Phil after another 4-0 win though - and at least we didn't go near Appiah, who would have been pretty close to demanding a first team place, and would have seriously threatened Mikel's position in the squad.

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I've read here and in another thread some of you disagreeing with this signing and Phil's overall lack of youth development. I heartily disagree with most of what is being said.

IMO, Scolari is doing the safe thing. He's had a look at our kids and picked a few out bring sparks, but he's not going to commit them just yet. His faith in older players (inclusive of signings) means that he has more time to adjust to the club and the Premiership. He needs players whom he's worked with in the past to help implement his new system. The other players, like Lamps, JT and Ballack are all model professionals, so working with them will not be to difficult. This ought to take a season as he beds in. From next year onwards, expect to see more of the youth team featuring in bigger games to replace the likes of Ballack (whom I believe is going to be out of a contract soon) and become understudies to Lamps and Deco.

Give the man time. We've had a good start and he's managed to get the players happy and hungry. From what we've seen against Pompey, he's willing to bleed youngsters, but not en masse like a certain Frenchie from across town.

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He isn't bleeding youngsters, he is pricking their fingers at best!!

Against Pompey we were 3 up after 49 minutes and Pompey looked like a team barely capable of passing the ball to a team mate but Di Santo didn't come on till the dying minutes, Ferreira came on first which was somewhat pointless as it appears he is at best 3rd in the pcking order, if nt fourth, for a right back slot.

Similarly on the opening day of the season we were cruising against Pompey and Di Santo didn't even get on. This despite the fact Drogba was injured and Anelka not exactly impressing.

Personally I don't hold out a huge amount of hope that Scolari will bring through youngsters this season or next. He will be our manager for, at most, three seasons, and I don't think he is looking beyond that one bit.

Very disappointing.

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He isn't bleeding youngsters, he is pricking their fingers at best!!

Against Pompey we were 3 up after 49 minutes and Pompey looked like a team barely capable of passing the ball to a team mate but Di Santo didn't come on till the dying minutes, Ferreira came on first which was somewhat pointless as it appears he is at best 3rd in the pcking order, if nt fourth, for a right back slot.

Similarly on the opening day of the season we were cruising against Pompey and Di Santo didn't even get on. This despite the fact Drogba was injured and Anelka not exactly impressing.

Personally I don't hold out a huge amount of hope that Scolari will bring through youngsters this season or next. He will be our manager for, at most, three seasons, and I don't think he is looking beyond that one bit.

Very disappointing.

i think your being a bit harsh on scolari loz. bear in mind hes only just got to the club and will have known nothing about the youth players at his disposal. he will already have know about pretty much every senior player we have and is right to use these. until he learns more abut the youth players, how progressed they are, how they would cope in the senior game etc hes doing the right thing in holding back for now.

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But what better chance to find out about them than when you are 3-0 up against a team that is clearly not interested in saving the game. Pompey had as much chance of getting back into the game last night (and the opening day of the season) as John Cleese has of getting into heaven.

Even if they didn't cope last night it wouldn't have mattered one bit - it would have given them some exposure. blooding Di Santo is even more important because we only have two recognised first team strikers and one of them is still getiit back to match fitness. There is a possibility we will have to use Di Santo in the nearish future and if we do do you not think it would be better if he had already played more than a handful of minutes of football?

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But what better chance to find out about them than when you are 3-0 up against a team that is clearly not interested in saving the game. Pompey had as much chance of getting back into the game last night (and the opening day of the season) as John Cleese has of getting into heaven.

Even if they didn't cope last night it wouldn't have mattered one bit - it would have given them some exposure. blooding Di Santo is even more important because we only have two recognised first team strikers and one of them is still getiit back to match fitness. There is a possibility we will have to use Di Santo in the nearish future and if we do do you not think it would be better if he had already played more than a handful of minutes of football?

well, di santo got 20 minutes last night, which is pretty much what i expect him to be gettingm especially with the need to get drogba match fit being more important. i was surprised sinclair didnt get longer though. be interesting to see what happens in the next round, especially if we get a lower league side at home.

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oh and p.s. Di Santo only got 10 minutes which is nothing really as the team were strolling by then.

really? o thought he came on about the 70 minute mark. i suppose a lot of can be put down to simply scolari not wanting to lose any of his early games and to get a momentum going. wenger can play his youngsters because he can get away with defeats and not winning trophys, ferguson likewise.

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Maka wanted to go so that wasn't an option.

What annoys me is that Scolari comes out and says that we needed Mineiro due to Essien's injury meaning that we only have one player who can play in the defensive midfield role (i.e. Mikel)

Does he now know his squad? There is a bloke on our books called Michael Ballack who I believe is reasonably well known who can also play there and in a worst case scenario of both Mikel and Ballack being unavailable we could play someone like Ivanovic or Belletti there or, play a different formation or be even more daring and play someone like Michael Woods.

Based on the fact Di Santo only got a few minutes tonight even though we were 3-0 up and cruising after 49 minutes I think you can forget all about youngsters getting much playing time under Scolari.

This is a totally unnecessary signing.

Loz

To be fair, I think that they are saying Essien being out for months, means that we are down one player in midfield, and they wanted coverage (which would not be the case with some out for 4-6 weeks).

If you recall it was the failure to do this a couple of years ago, when JM wanted defensive coverage that arguably left us short handed and cost us the title.

Scolari knows the guy and if Roman's OK funding payroll for a season for the guy, its not a bad move to add a little coverage. What if Mikel and/or Ballack pick up an injury or a few too many cards?

BTW, totally agree on the youngster front - I would have like to have seen Scoot and Franco get most of the second half

Nick

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