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Is this the role that he has earmarked Henderson to fulfill?

They of course ,were far superior to us and that’s the depressing reality. The margins were there for at least a draw, which makes it more crushing. What hasn’t been as widely mentioned as the kick on Martinez or the Rice foul, was when Konsa lifted up Rogers threw him to the floor, which led to the winner. Despite this, they were so organised and had so much control, I can’t ‘feel’ those injustices in the same way /in context to the game. The knock-on effect of missing out on Camara instantly felt. Basketball football until that’s sorted, just utilise the front 3 as much as possible.

Says even less for the muppet who thought it would be a good idea to sign him in the first place. Not slagging off Barco as I've hardly seen him play. But like you say, if the manager thinks that playing Malo f**king Gusto in midfield is better than playing Barco there, then a head should roll in the recruiting department. Of course, we know very well that nothing will happen in that regard.

Arteta would never buy Barco. Too small and Ginger.

Alonso likes him.

Now I didn't mind Madueke as much as some folk on here, and stuck up for him regularly. But I did realise his limitations and accepted that he was young player who, I hoped, had the capacity to improve. Neto is everything Madueke was. His one method of beating a player is generally kicking it ahead of himself and hoping to out race his opponent. His decision making at the crucial moment is often wrong. His crossing badly needs improving. For me, Madueke was better in the air. More of a threat when he got in the box. And defensively, (arguably), offered more effort and certainly more physicality than Neto. Like Madueke, Neto's body language and reactions often aren't great. RJ bollocking him him the other week for not chasing back is a good example. Neto often slows our attacks down. He isn't direct and agressive like Estevao. He isn't brave in the moments you want him to be brave. He's OK as squad player, making up the numbers. Useful in some circumstances coming off the bench. Just like Madueke.

Yeah think It’s a tactical flaw. Colwill needs to be in the CCB role instead of Lacroix progressing the ball which is his strength, and Lacroix needs to be at RCB. Issue I think is Alonso needs Lacroix height and strength as the CCB.

The club know more than we do, and there is a reason most of our managers since last season have insisted on moving him into the middle of the park. He doesn’t have the legs to play as a marauding RB anymore. If Alonso insists on playing 3-4-3 there is no role for him.

If he's as fit as you say, then he really should be playing in his specialist position at right back or right wing back. The fact that Alonso is choosing to play Neto or Gusto there instead speaks volumes ...

He’s not holding the team to ransom. We’re lucky to have him. He’s playing midfield because we’re short on numbers, which is really annoying. His fitness is the best I’ve seen for years. If he stays fit all season… I say start him at right back next season.

You could easily say the same for Fofana. Both of those guys should be the ones setting the standards, and not in the conversation for who was most at fault for goals conceded ...

Nope but it’s that ridiculous contract that is a noose around our neck. If Reece James can't play RCB, RB or RWB , then he is holding the team to Ransom. We need to start having the uncomfortable conversations, but there isn’t a market.

Whether to mark him with one man or none ?

I think what Alonso needs more than anything is someone on the pitch that he can rely on to organise the defence. Someone with a bit of experience. Think of the likes of Silva or Desailly. Joined us at what most thought was the swansong of their careers but brought a wealth of experience and confidence to the back line.

Trouble is Reece is a RB who can't play RB. If everyone's fit, does he even have a spot on the team?

Careful, some may take that as you asking Rogers and Palmer to actually defend properly. Not just Leeds. Yes we need to go long in the cups, especially with no Europe. We also need to beat Hull and Brentford before the break too. Is pretty easy to defend losing to the champions, spin the positives, be a lot more difficult to do so if we don't beat Hull and/or Brentford.

I didn't see the game live, but having watched the highlights, I'd have an issue with Fofana on both goals.

Right footed defender playing on the left to deal with left footed players cutting inside. What does he do with Havertz in the first half. Oh yes shows him inside and allows him all the time in the world to shoot. Nice one Wes.

And Arsenal have got a Champions League game away to Napoli during the week. Didn't seem to be on their minds today at all

OK, that's a fair point. Let's see how he uses this loss to move us forward.

Most of the goals we have conceded so far have been because of playing ghosting in behind then and them not tracking their men. There has to be some defensive discipline, even in the box to box midfielder.

Why can’t Palmer or Roger’s play in that Role, especially Palmer who come deep anyway

Why? I'm done with managers and coaches playing up to the cameras. Why does he need to show you, me or anyone outside of the dressing room what his thoughts are. The reputation of people should be built on their actions not on soundbites made to a fickle press.

Im enjoying the documentary, im on the last episode when he goes to Real. Pretty clear that Jose peaked 2003-2010. After that was a decline / football moved on. Always disappointed me that Jose never really built a proper club over a long period of time. He always said that he wanted to win the title in England, Spain and Italy and then do a long stint somewhere. He never managed to do it. He just burns people and clubs out.

Why not try playing Palmer or Roger’s as the attacking midfielder behind Pedro and play Steveo up front