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Opta index figures taken from SKY:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12193_2705370,00.html

Top Shooter - Lampard

Team with Most Shots - Chelsea

Passes - Lampard 1456 84% / Mikel 1434 91% (Mikel has highest percentage)

Succ Passes 10050 (more than any other club)

From the figures above it shows that Chelsea have two midfielders with the highest percentage of complete in passes in the league. Our pass success rate is more than any other club in the league. We have had the most shots, and the player with the most shots in the league are from our attacking midfielder.

I never read alot into these Opta figures because any figures can be used to prove any point.

What do these figures show you?

My observations:

To me they show we we have the ability to knock it about and keep the ball with our midfielders completion rates. Does this mean the opposition allow us to play it around in our own half? One of our midfielders has the most shots and being Lamps we know they not all from 6 yards out.So we're knocking it about keeping the ball, and shooting from distance. Being the club with the most complete passes - does this suggest we over-play it?

We don't have a player in the 'creator' catagory.

What do they tell you?

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I want a nice diagram that shows where all those passes were going. Not much use have such a high percentage when the ball isn't going anywhere near the opponents' goal.

Here's your diagram Val:

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Opta index figures taken from SKY:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12193_2705370,00.html

Top Shooter - Lampard

Team with Most Shots - Chelsea

Passes - Lampard 1456 84% / Mikel 1434 91% (Mikel has highest percentage)

Succ Passes 10050 (more than any other club)

From the figures above it shows that Chelsea have two midfielders with the highest percentage of complete in passes in the league. Our pass success rate is more than any other club in the league. We have had the most shots, and the player with the most shots in the league are from our attacking midfielder.

I never read alot into these Opta figures because any figures can be used to prove any point.

What do these figures show you?

My observations:

To me they show we we have the ability to knock it about and keep the ball with our midfielders completion rates. Does this mean the opposition allow us to play it around in our own half? One of our midfielders has the most shots and being Lamps we know they not all from 6 yards out.So we're knocking it about keeping the ball, and shooting from distance. Being the club with the most complete passes - does this suggest we over-play it?

We don't have a player in the 'creator' catagory.

What do they tell you?

i have noticed that when we get the ball all we do is pass it sideways until the opponents get loads behind the ball and these stats prove it. too many behind the ball, unable to break down so we shoot. poorly

i don't think it's a case of over-playing just not being direct enough. as i said, giving opponents time to get behind the ball and not allow us space to exploit therefore we have to play so many passes

what these stats show me is that we have no-one willing to take a player on to get in behind and open space which inevitably leads to the above

we need more pace and to be more direct but i guess we don't really have the personel to do it at the minute

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Here's your diagram Val:

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Thank you Bluenut. Can you add some nice colours too?

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is the mikel one a good stat? he's not making enough penatrative passes to justify the argument that his attacking contribution outweighs his defensive weaknesses, and whenever the opposition play players that play between our midfield and attack his reading of the game isn't great- we've allowed to many players to run at our back four from central positions, or at least be allowed too much time to play those kinds of passes.

there has been some criticism of bosingwa for his defensive weaknesses, but overall I'd say that compared to mikel he's made less errors (although as a fullback they appear more obvious), and has been for large parts of the season our only cutting edge going forward.

don't get me wrong, I think despite mikel's performances often looking better than they are (waiting to be closed down and then turning a player looks nice, but it's an unnecessary risk with no advantage over moving the ball quickly), he's still been one of out better players.

but it's difficult to shake the feeling that he's playing out of position, and that is he is to play there he needs to look at pirlo and years ago at xavi to see how they justified playing in that part of the pitch despite being relatively weak defensively.

edit- I don't think we've often overplayed the ball, but if joe cole and anelka at once come deep for the ball where can you pass it? anelka has been a bit of a problem in that he doesn't run behind the defence enough, joe's natural inclination is to get the ball to feet (suits his touch and skill, plus masks his relative lack of speed), deco of course is the same- in fact even moreso than joe, and malouda doesn't really offer much going behind either.

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SWP is in there as top dribbler/runs with the ball - and we sold him.

that means nothing- it's not right to always dribble with the ball, it indicates what we know- a lack of intelligence. bentley is the top crosser.

we also know he is a poor crosser, a pretty poor passer, had huge trouble playing any style of football other than kick and run, and offered little when the game isn't stretched.

he wasn't ever good enough and we probably sold him a year too late.

selling the likes of swp was never the problem, failing to replace him at all, just like we failed to properly replace duff and robben (kalou and malouda?) is.

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that means nothing- it's not right to always dribble with the ball, it indicates what we know- a lack of intelligence. bentley is the top crosser.

we also know he is a poor crosser, a pretty poor passer, had huge trouble playing any style of football other than kick and run, and offered little when the game isn't stretched.

he wasn't ever good enough and we probably sold him a year too late.

selling the likes of swp was never the problem, failing to replace him at all, just like we failed to properly replace duff and robben (kalou and malouda?) is.

That was my point really.

We sold him and failed to get Fil's target, leaving us short of options up front.

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is the mikel one a good stat? he's not making enough penatrative passes to justify the argument that his attacking contribution outweighs his defensive weaknesses, and whenever the opposition play players that play between our midfield and attack his reading of the game isn't great- we've allowed to many players to run at our back four from central positions, or at least be allowed too much time to play those kinds of passes.

don't get me wrong, I think despite mikel's performances often looking better than they are (waiting to be closed down and then turning a player looks nice, but it's an unnecessary risk with no advantage over moving the ball quickly), he's still been one of out better players.

but it's difficult to shake the feeling that he's playing out of position, and that is he is to play there he needs to look at pirlo and years ago at xavi to see how they justified playing in that part of the pitch despite being relatively weak defensively.

Has Mikel had any assists in his Chelsea career (to go with his one goal against, er, Macclesfield I think)?

Our equaliser against Stoke was very significant. Belleti played the ball forward from well inside our half and then bombed forward in a way that Mikel NEVER does, even when we're chasing the game. He darted around the Stoke half and into the area, and drifted to the six yard box, losing his man to nod in Di Santo's knock-down. It was tremendous off-the-ball play that Mikel never ever does. He just sits and holds and rarely plays telling balls or makes intelligent runs.

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Has Mikel had any assists in his Chelsea career (to go with his one goal against, er, Macclesfield I think)?

Our equaliser against Stoke was very significant. Belleti played the ball forward from well inside our half and then bombed forward in a way that Mikel NEVER does, even when we're chasing the game. He darted around the Stoke half and into the area, and drifted to the six yard box, losing his man to nod in Di Santo's knock-down. It was tremendous off-the-ball play that Mikel never ever does. He just sits and holds and rarely plays telling balls or makes intelligent runs.

Hence his pass completion rate of 91%. Play it simple pass it sideways. He's always an option for the 'easy ball'. he's always available for the 3 yard pass. It's not his job to bomb forward, but in home games v Stoke for example, do we really need a holding player?

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Hence his pass completion rate of 91%. Play it simple pass it sideways. He's always an option for the 'easy ball'. he's always available for the 3 yard pass. It's not his job to bomb forward, but in home games v Stoke for example, do we really need a holding player?

do we ever need a holding player?

we have arguably the best back 5 in the world so why do we need a covering midfielder? play mikel further forward (until essien comes back) in a proper CM role with lamps alongside him and stop fannying around with that sh*tty formation

we might get some goals instead of a million f*ckin passes

and mikel is being forced to play maka's way atm. how many goals did maka get? and his pass completion was around the same. just follow the ball and offer the short and simple option. mikel is actually very composed on the ball and not afraid to ride a tackle before releasing. he has played a few very incisive balls, just we haven't capitalised on them. easily our 3rd best CM. just needs to work on that god awful shooting

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I've got to say I don't feel like complaining about our side having the most shots or the most pass completion...

If you've got the ball its difficult for the opposition to hurt you, I also havn't heard much about us being the second or third best team when it comes to shots against?

I haven't looked at these stats for a while but I'm pretty sure we were up there when I last did,

As for Mikel and playing more as an attacking Mid...I have never seen him do much in an attaxcking sense and think if we needed another attacking mid he may as well be dropped.

Part of what Mikel does is why we have had so little shots against us and why our goal difference is fairly healthy even though we are not scoring too many.

We maybe dont need a defensive mid against the teams coming to pass the Bus but in the big games and maybe most away games I think we would be in trouble without.

we won enough with Maka in the role to show what a good defensive midfielder means to the team and Mikel is still only learning his trade there.

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We tend to overplay. One of our problems this season. We always try to walk the ball inside the net and never create shooting chances further away from goal. We have one of the best shooters in the league with Lampard, Deco, Anelka, Ballack and Drogba but if we never use that talent we are not going to score.

The biggest problem have been our defence though...

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but in home games v Stoke for example, do we really need a holding player?

We dont need a holding player at home to Stoke, I know it, you know it, we all know it, shame Mr Hackman doesnt.

For me, it makes sense to start games against the likes of your Stokes & Fulhams without a holding midfielder, for these kind of opponents we desperatley need more options in attack.

Then, when we have managed to breach our opponents defence and etch out a lead, we could revert back to using a holding player by bringing Mikel on.

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We tend to overplay. One of our problems this season. We always try to walk the ball inside the net and never create shooting chances further away from goal. We have one of the best shooters in the league with Lampard, Deco, Anelka, Ballack and Drogba but if we never use that talent we are not going to score.

The biggest problem have been our defence though...

So we have too many shots from outside the area and we try to walk the ball in the net and don't create shooting chances further from goal...

I think to be honest unless we score four goals every game nobody will say anything good about this team.

we have let through less shots than all but two Premiership teams and less goals than around the same unyet our defence is the biggest problem?

If you look through those stats and whichever way you read them we are looking pretty healthy if you look at shots for, shots against, goals for, against, passes or whatever so why are we looking for more negatives?

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Deco's % for succesfull passes is low and it would be much lower if it wasn't for that fact that he takes the kick off.

Classic! :D

As for Mikel, I've got to admit I'm not a huge fan. I can see the potential is there and he's great at what he does, but the game he is playing is never gonna trouble the opppostion. He sees a lot of the ball but in areas where opposing teams are happy for him to have it all day long. He's a very laid back player and there doesn't seem to be any urgency in his game. Backbiter made a great point re the Belleti goal - that's what's needed in home matches where you're looking for 3 points - not the luxury of a player in your own half just stroking the ball about.

Hopefully Essien will be back soon and for me that would mean Mikel making way in most matches.

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Hopefully Essien will be back soon and for me that would mean Mikel making way in most matches.

essien is wasted in that role. you have to give him a free reign to do what he likes

unless we change to 4-4-2 then mikel shouldn't be dropped. if we continue with 4-5-1 and essien replaces mikel instead of ballack/deco i will be f*ckin livid

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