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november gone - sad fairwell to a crap month, hope carlo has learned some stuff about the players and the tactics

dec looks a challenge, but essie (the bison) back, and boss now on his game, we can kick in again................then lamps to come back too

so a hard working 2-1 win tomorrow wold be good start

toffee fans worried as they are not playing well, we know the dangers, and they know ours

nico & drogs..............the message is - EARN YOUR CORN BOYS!

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Couldn't be bothered to start a thread as its a bit late anyway but it was Micahel Essiens Birthday today...Bet hes glad to have November out the way as well.

Lets hope he comes back with intentions to make up for that silly tackle that has had a big part to play in us surrendering top spot for the time being.

Happy Birthday Ess.

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Pretty important game in the scheme of things. Just lost our lead, and our excuse has been lack of leadership during this time. So, if we get JT AND Essien back, I think it'll be time for them to deliver. Only trouble is I doubt they are match fit, so the game will be very tight

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And this is what he was saying this weekend:

"We have to wake up from this moment," said Ancelotti, who had publicly questioned his players' desire in the build-up to Everton's visit. "We can move on but what we are doing is not enough. We have to work harder. I have to understand what happened in the second half because it was poor. I'm not happy to see my team play like they did in that second half. We have to change our ideas.

"I don't feel good at the moment. Not just because we drew but because we didn't play well. I was obviously disappointed with the result but I was not happy with the play. We are working to play a kind of football that is totally different to the way we played in the second half – we lost our idea of how to play football and started playing long balls – so we have to ask why this happened. I saw a team that was afraid, scared and unable to play our football, unable to play easy passes. It was just long ball. This is not our aim."

"No, I'm not relaxed at all and I don't sleep well. I maintain confidence in my players. I maintain trust. But it's not a good moment, not for them or for me. We have to stay together and not be searching to find out who is guilty. Usually when you have a difficult moment you want to find out who is to blame. It's a moment in which we are all not doing enough to win games. We have to do more because this is the only way that I know.

"I'm not worried about my job. I know we have to play better and get better results. But it's the decision of the club and I don't feel pressure over this. Rather, there are lots of other things to worry about: we are not playing well or having good results, and we are no longer at the top of the table. In my career I have been through lots of difficult moments but I know that the way out of them is to stay together and work hard on the training ground. We still have the time to come back and play our football, to come back and be competitive in the league and in the Champions League."

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Ancelotti says he's not relaxed, not sleeping well, not worried about his job. But it's those first couple of paragraphs I find most worrying. Of course it's not our aim to "lose our idea of how to play football" and resort to play long ball. But this was what was happening throughout the start of the second half. So why the big change from a team that was looking confident and well on top and had looked like they could go on to win the game comfortably to one that had lost its shape and lost its way? It's not so long ago that when we had a poor first half, the second half would see a turnaround. You'd feel confident that after half time mistakes would be put right, that changes would be made, tactically or personel and that we'd go on and win the game. But now it seems more a case of when things will start to go tits up. If a slow start doesn't see us falling behind, then we'll conspire to throw it all away in the second half.

Ok I know there's nothing new here, nothing that hasn't been said before. All I can say is I'm nowhere nearer getting my head round the way things changed so dramatically after half time than I was on Saturday. Ancelotti says they have to do more. Damned right they do.

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keep the faith we will come good

I'll have whatever you are on.

Wish I could be so optimistic. But currently the problems seem to run through the whole team (bar Cech).

Defence - looking shaky and unlikely to keep a clean sheet against even average opponents.

Midfield - far too predictable and lacking in creativity.

Attack - mis-firing and teams finding us fairly comfortable to defend against.

Don't want to pick on individuals as the team as a whole or as a unit are not performing and haven't been for a fair while. But I think it's midfield where we are struggling most to be honest. Essien doesn't look anything like the player of previous seasons at the moment. In the past, he would walk into the PL team of the season. He's the player all other supporters would want in their side. But not right now he's not. And Mikel, Ramires & Zirkhov? They have their attributes but are not going to contribute with much needed goals. Not a PL goal between them.

We need a spark to get our season going again. That could come from Lamps returning (still not sure when that is going to be?). If it's not very soon then we need someone else to step up big time.

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Just like last year people going all mental because of a bad patch, we will get through this and have a good season at the end of it and then we will look back at this sh*tty month we've had.

Cheer up, Come on Chelsea!

I sincerely hope you're right but I don't think you can compare last season with this season.

Last season we went through a bad patch. This isn't just a bad patch but the club's worst run for about a decade. Plus we have a much leaner squad and it appears unrest with what has been occurring off the field.

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That surprises me.

Is that based on number of games played and points gained or based on the corresponding fixtures last season?

Based on corresponding fixtures from last season, replacing relegated teams with promoted ones. Based on no of games played, we had 37 points at the same point last season.

United have actually -6 from corresponding fixtures last season. Couldn't bother checking Arsenals. I realize that our current form is the major concern, but if you look at season so far as a whole and taking fixtures into account, we have done pretty well relative to United I'd say.

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Based on corresponding fixtures from last season, replacing relegated teams with promoted ones. Based on no of games played, we had 37 points at the same point last season.

United have actually -6 from corresponding fixtures last season. Couldn't bother checking Arsenals. I realize that our current form is the major concern, but if you look at season so far as a whole and taking fixtures into account, we have done pretty well relative to United I'd say.

Not sure if I agree with you . From the corresponding fixtures last year I make it we are -5 points worse off ? That is based on swapping Hull - Blackpool , West Brom - Burnley , Portsmouth - Newcastle .

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Not sure if I agree with you . From the corresponding fixtures last year I make it we are -5 points worse off ? That is based on swapping Hull - Blackpool , West Brom - Burnley , Portsmouth - Newcastle .

To avoid confusion, here goes. and I'm swapping Hull-Newcastle(yes, we drew at Hull last season :P)

Gained- Wigan(A) -3, Wham(A) -2, Villa(A) -1, Bburn(A) -2 =8

Lost- Pool(A) -3, Sunderlnd(H) -3, Brum(A) -1 =7

Its +/- 1 whichever way you look at it.

We steadied the ship last season, but I don't think we can repeat it. Too many good sides out there. Everyone else seems to be building and improving, whereas we're just hanging in there hoping for the best.

Yes, teams around us have improved but not our main rivals. Which means the league is tougher this season but at the end of the day we'll be up there with United and maybe Arsenal again. And like i said United haven't really done all that well considering their easier fixtures. If we can get our act together and bar the second half collapse versus Everton, there have definitely been signs of that, and with Lamps coming back, we have as good a shout as anybody.

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I'll have whatever you are on.

Wish I could be so optimistic. But currently the problems seem to run through the whole team (bar Cech).

Defence - looking shaky and unlikely to keep a clean sheet against even average opponents.

Midfield - far too predictable and lacking in creativity.

Attack - mis-firing and teams finding us fairly comfortable to defend against.

Don't want to pick on individuals as the team as a whole or as a unit are not performing and haven't been for a fair while. But I think it's midfield where we are struggling most to be honest. Essien doesn't look anything like the player of previous seasons at the moment. In the past, he would walk into the PL team of the season. He's the player all other supporters would want in their side. But not right now he's not. And Mikel, Ramires & Zirkhov? They have their attributes but are not going to contribute with much needed goals. Not a PL goal between them.

We need a spark to get our season going again. That could come from Lamps returning (still not sure when that is going to be?). If it's not very soon then we need someone else to step up big time.

Agree 100% with everything. I really think Lamps is the answer to our midfield problem. We simply don't have a talismanic figure on the field right now. Plus the leadership and character he brings is hard to replace.

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we had 40 points having played 17 matches last season regardless which team you replace with which, we have 31 points from 16 games, bearing in mind our next 3 fixtures our first half of the season is considerably poorer than year and depending on results it could get a whole lot worse! Hope were not too far behind by the team we find our form again or bring in players.

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we had 40 points having played 17 matches last season regardless which team you replace with which, we have 31 points from 16 games, bearing in mind our next 3 fixtures our first half of the season is considerably poorer than year and depending on results it could get a whole lot worse! Hope were not too far behind by the team we find our form again or bring in players.

I don't have the time and really can't be bothered to look up and compare this season to last but that definitely rings truer than footballoholics claim that we are 1 point better off than last season. Just can't see how that could be so when we've already lost four games and drawn a few as well.

A tough December which will either make or break our PL season. IF we were to lose against Sp*rs, Utd and Arsenal then that's our lot league wise. If we somehow manage to get 9 points than it will be a case of what was all the fuss about!

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I'd be happy enough with 5 points from the next three games to be honest and if that five turns into only 2 which is realistically possible I will be at least optimistic if we show some improvement.

I still think Arsenal and UTD could drop some unexpected points and I still have a horrible suspicion Man City will improve as the season gos on, I'm hoping JT can stay fit and looking forward to Lampard getting back and playing into some form, it might just take those next three games before we start seeing the old Frank so I'm hoping for a good run after that and expecting Drogbas form to be back around the same time.

I'm hoping for an unbeaten run between early January and May and another Title won by the smallist of Margins.

Keeping the faith.

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