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Sturridge to Liverpool is a very interesting one.

£15m the price being quoted. He is in his last year, so we risk losing him on a free in 12 months.

I suspect Sturridge would be open to the move but may prefer to bide his time and leave on a free. As back-up to Torres, there is no doubt he will get games, and he will fancy his chances to shine, and we look an exciting side, so he may want to be a part of that. Not forgetting CL and all the rest of it.

On the other hand he may feel undervalued at Chelsea.

If he goes, we will definitely buy someone else, the question is who.

A big name player in their prime wouldn't make much sense, when you consider Torres and Lukaku, who are both starting to look good. Defoe has been mentioned, and this may be the sensible option, considering Tottenham would give us cash plus the player, and we know AVB values Sturridge. Personally, I would hate to see Carroll at our club, even on loan.

A very interesting situation, as I've said. I'm not sure what the club should do, risk losing Sturridge to a rival on a free, or sell him now, watching him bang in goals for someone else, and making any new purchase a complicated choice.

What would you do folks .. ?



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Not a chance I would sell him.

We have one striker who is so confidence driven he could go off for months at a time. Danny for all his faults, will score.

He is young, hungry, homegrown and has just that little touch of special about him. Drogba was similarly criticised in his first season, I think Danny can mature to be a magnificent player. Letting Liverpool have that would be silly.

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Would rather lose him on a free than sell him.

This is similar to Arsenal and RVP. While Sturridge isn't as vital as RVP, he's still our second striker and an important player for the RW spot. There's no doubt he will get games and to me having him in the team is worth more than £15m.



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Don't think rdm rates him tbh. He played kalou ahead of him last season and he want even kept this year. Would of thought he'd start ahead of Bertrand in one of the attacking 3 positions, and I was surprised he didn't get 20mins against Newcastle. Think he could be a star player US sand will be devastated to see him leave.

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Instead of selling him we need to try and get him to sign a new contract.

Can't see him signing now. He's in his last 12 months and he's hardly played under RDM.



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I can see him going and its probably for the best for both parties.

Lots of the fans seem to have serious doubts about him, not his talent, but his attitude!

He seems to have lost faith in the football club!

I can see him as a less talented version of Anelka, never really settling at any club, although I don't know, I suspect he has some very bad advisors around him.

As long as we get the best fee for him which I would see at about £18m

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We have a young Englishman who can easily take Welbecks place in team England. He scored 13 goals and gave 6 assists last season while on the wing. Why on earth would we want to get rid of him? One of our most dangerous player at the time we were struggling last season.

Is it his personality, face or what makes people not to like him? He is selfish at times but he is an attacker and still very young. We'd be very stupid to let him go. If he is desperate to go only then I'd consider selling him.

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We are going to have plenty of fixtures this season, so Sturridge is definitely going to get game time. But as 'big blue' said, I'm not sure Robbie rates him. I would be hugely disappointed to see Sturridge leave us.

However if he does get sold in the next few days, expect Hulk to be his replacement. I doubt we will go for Cavani or Falcao as they would only agree to sign if they were assured first team spots, which isn't possible at the moment.

Hulk, on the the other hand, will play mainly as a RW and move to the CF role if Torres gets injured. I would prefer keeping Sturridge regardless of who we sign as a replacement in all honesty.

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I can see him going and its probably for the best for both parties.

Lots of the fans seem to have serious doubts about him, not his talent, but his attitude!

He seems to have lost faith in the football club!

I can see him as a less talented version of Anelka, never really settling at any club, although I don't know, I suspect he has some very bad advisors around him.

As long as we get the best fee for him which I would see at about £18m

I disagree. I think he has bags of potential and can certainly learn to become a better team player. The talent is there for everyone to see, and I feel that he can definitely change his attitude on the pitch.

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We have a young Englishman who can easily take Welbecks place in team England. He scored 13 goals and gave 6 assists last season while on the wing. Why on earth would we want to get rid of him?

Because he won't sign at this point in time and we risk losing him on a free ?

Not saying I'd sanction the signing, just saying let's not bury our heads in the sand.

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I disagree. I think he has bags of potential and can certainly learn to become a better team player. The talent is there for everyone to see, and I feel that he can definitely change his attitude on the pitch.

I havn't said he isn't a good player, what has he shown you that says he can change his attitude on the pitch?

I was at the Reading game, 2 minutes after coming on he did really well to beat his man, then took 1 of the most ridiculous shots you will ever see, confidence is good, however their is such a thing as too much confidence, once he realises their are 9 other outfield players, he could become a great player!

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There is no chance we are going to get rid of Studge unless something is happening behind the scenes regarding the signing of another striker (which I also cant see happening this window). RDM has already said that he is happy with he squad that he has and the fact that really we dont have a tried and tested fallback option if Torres needs a rest (or heaven forbid picks up an injury). Also dont see RDM signing another high profile striker when everything that has been done in this window is designed to try and get Torres firing consistently again... Getting someone as high profile as Cavani or Falcao no matter how good they are would risk putting him on the edge again...

Looking at the past couple of games we've had in the Prem (yes I know we haven't really been tested yet) we look like a promising squad to go on and lift the league cup this season, so why after all the work RDM and the squad have done thus far would you then go and risk losing that?

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I havn't said he isn't a good player, what has he shown you that says he can change his attitude on the pitch?

I was at the Reading game, 2 minutes after coming on he did really well to beat his man, then took 1 of the most ridiculous shots you will ever see, confidence is good, however their is such a thing as too much confidence, once he realises their are 9 other outfield players, he could become a great player!

'Zeta Orionis' posted something the other day that I completely agreed with. This is what he said.

"The simple fact of the matter is this:

Sturridge is a talented player. He's got pace, trickery, he's not afraid to run at defenders or try something outrageous, and he scores goals.

Sturridge is also selfish, often picks the wrong decision (e.g. shoot instead of pass) and at times his attitude hasn't been great.

However, things like attitude and and decision making can be improved over time. If it was the other way round and he had a great footballing mind and was a very unselfish team player, but lacked the ability, then I would be very worried for his future. But he's got the ability and the potential to get even better, it's more of the mental aspects of his game which he needs to work on, but if he is managed correctly then he will get there.

I would be extremely annoyed if we sold him, because he's going to be a great player in a few years time, regardless of whether he plays RW or CF."



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I havn't said he isn't a good player, what has he shown you that says he can change his attitude on the pitch?

I was at the Reading game, 2 minutes after coming on he did really well to beat his man, then took 1 of the most ridiculous shots you will ever see, confidence is good, however their is such a thing as too much confidence, once he realises their are 9 other outfield players, he could become a great player!

To say that he doesn't appear to have changed so far is a bit farfetched. Against reading he actually looked like a team player for once, despite that shot that you were talking about he was passing the ball around for once.. When you look at Ramires and Mata's performance in the same game it looked like the both of them had taken a leaf out of Studges book.. Was rather disappointed to see them both being so greedy (especially Rami).

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Oh and as for him taking a shot from a difficult angle against Reading, I'll admit that was selfish, but to be fair it was the only shot he attempted since coming on. Apart from that, he looked hungry and was also passing the ball, linking up well with his teammates and speeding up the play.

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Oh and as for him taking a shot from a difficult angle against Reading, I'll admit that was selfish, but to be fair it was the only shot he attempted since coming on. Apart from that, he looked hungry and was also passing the ball, linking up well with his teammates and speeding up the play.

This.

And when you compare this one shot to the amount of shots that Rami and Mata took when there were more than one person inside the box on multiple occasions then you can only assume that between the last game he played for us last season, during the olympics and the start of this season that he seems to be listening to whatever the team and RDM are saying.

For the time being, I take my hat off and applaud sturridge until I see otherwise.

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I think that you hit the nail on the head, RDM just doesnt seem to rate him. It will be a shame when he goes and he will come back to haunt us.

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Oh and as for him taking a shot from a difficult angle against Reading, I'll admit that was selfish, but to be fair it was the only shot he attempted since coming on. Apart from that, he looked hungry and was also passing the ball, linking up well with his teammates and speeding up the play.

To say that he doesn't appear to have changed so far is a bit farfetched. Against reading he actually looked like a team player for once, despite that shot that you were talking about he was passing the ball around for once.. When you look at Ramires and Mata's performance in the same game it looked like the both of them had taken a leaf out of Studges book.. Was rather disappointed to see them both being so greedy (especially Rami).

The reason he started to pass the ball after his shot was because he got booed by the entire stadium, lots of fans are getting fed up with him!

Lets not kid ourselves that he's a young kid either he's almost 23 his decision making should be up to scratch by now!

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We should keep him but assign an elder statesman such as Terry or Cole (in terms of football anyway) to take him under their wing. He is 22, he is hungry but he still needs to learn the finer points of the game, decision making certainly should be high on his list, if he can sit and learn for another year it will be in his best interest and I expect him to at least get 20 games plus some substitutions. I would not let him go to Liverpool as they will be direct rival in a couple of years, a mid table team maybe, but they won't have the cash anyway, and they won't win any trophies of any significance. As much as I get frustrated with Danny, he is full of talent which needs to be harnessed, controlled and channeled to make him a world class player....keep him :JC_doubleup:


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No matter how much you dislike how greedy he is on the ball (personally I cant stand it) you can't deny that throughout some of the games that he has been in last season he has shown glimmers of brilliance in what he does.. The only problem is he out does every fantastic thing that he does with stupidity... Once he gets it out of his head that it needs to be him who is in the spotlight all of the time and actually begins to realise that to be great striker... you sometimes need to pass the ball.

I have no doubt that with the proper training and someone around to drill into him that he needs to stop being selfish he can be a top class striker...

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Lets not kid ourselves that he's a young kid either he's almost 23 his decision making should be up to scratch by now!

23 on Saturday but how much first-team action has he seen? Hardly any at City, 12 games for Bolton, and, apart from those few months under AVB, hardly any for Chelsea, save for the odd 10 minute cameo as sub. He really has to be judged against how much first-team action he's seen. This is part of the problem. No wonder he's very unlikely to sign. He wants to play, he's been waiting long enough, and it's not like he's done badly when he's had the chance. Chelsea may just be the wrong club for him, or at least that may be his thinking. Also, he knows he holds all the aces, because he's in his last year, and he seems very money motivated, judging by his transfer from City.

ESPN are saying we've slapped a £25m fee on his head, of which City would get a cut. They also say he has 2 years left, which I think is wrong. Can anyone confirm this?

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The way we've moved the ball in the last two fixtures I see Danny fit in very well. His pace is enough to leave everyone behind if one of our talents pass him. We need to nurture Nando and his form at the moment but I think Robbie will give more and more responsibilities to Danny. Why waste another £20-35mill to an attacker when we have a player who scored 11 times in the prem from the wing?

If Robbie manages to fit him in the system the way Nando is playing right now he will pass more. He is not stupid he will learn. I think he is a team player once he starts to enjoy getting the assists as well. I think 1-2's with Hazard are enjoyable enough to make him spark.



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