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Pathetic, I don't know why anyone except those 4 clubs would go for it.

 

United will gain the most, Arsenal will become bigger financially than Chelsea/City so i can see why they want it.

 

And Liverpool and Spurs just want to get on an even footing to us, what jokes.

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Interesting, amazes me that clubs who are loaded with debt meet FFP rules than rich oligarchs.... Recent Chelsea activity would suggest that Chelsea have not over inflated prices for players plus we made a profit last year which shows wage bill covered.

And Venky's vs Jack Walker says it all !

FFP is always going to be flawed

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Another great article from Martin Samuel.

These 4 clubs...especially Arsenal (who haven't won a trophy in years) clearly have their own agenda. Liverpool who look to be consigned to Thursday night European football for some time obviously hate the fact that there is suddenly competition for the major trophies.

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I like the core idea of the FFP but it has to be made the way us and city don't suffer any points losses or won't be closed out of any competitions.

We are two of the heavy-weights of the world and this rule is basically coming because of us. But we also make a lot of money for FA and UEFA because we have a huge following. We get big the game gets bigger and so on.

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FFP is a sound principle, as is running clubs as a business, but it needs more definition than just a bullet point list of how much a club can spend in relation to turnover. If that was the way any business was run, no business would ever expand.

 

RA has spent millions, but the clubs revenue and value has grown millions in relation, without the investment, there would be no return, it is the debt they should stop, not the investment.

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What's fair about Financial Fair Play? The way it has been set out, it's more about pulling the ladder up and protecting the establishment clubs from wealthy interlopers than fairness. If fairness is what they want then why not distribute TV revenues evenly between the top four divisions, reform the Champions League so the vast pot of money isn't shared between the same small group of clubs each season, or go back to sharing gate revenues 50-50?

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How nice to see the green eyed monster and the red nosed manager hand in hand again.

 

It was the same 4 teams plus Everton who caused much of the problem... and now they want to make it worse. Martin Samuel sums it up with, "Manchester United were focused on the health of the competition, [David Gill] said — at this point it would have taken a heart of stone not to laugh... "

 

Englishman, I'm with you all the way, particularly in your suggestion that there should be a return to the sharing of gate revenue, even if only for cup matches. A kick up the ass for any club stupid enough to fall in with this plan wouldn't go amiss either.

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That article sums it all up really - why those clubs are all for it. And the comments about oligarchs and sheikhs are an obvious dig at Chelsea and Man City. This is totally about Manure and Arse trying to legal us out of challenging them. The only team in the country that will win anything for the foreseeable future under their proposal is Manure, whilst (as the article points out) Arse, y*dds and Liverpoo catch the crumbs as they fall from Sir Bacon-Face's table. Shameless and cowardly. I can see this going to court in the not so distant future.

 

Might be a different story if we get a bigger new stadium, though...

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If ffp had been brought In around the year 2002 then only man utd and arsenal would have won pretty much everything in this country and would have bought the best players from other clubs. How exciting would that have been....

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There's 2 main things that annoy me about ffp. Where else is buying something by piling debt on it acceptable, but someone choosing to invest his own money isnt. Secondly, all ffp will do is make clubs eke out every penny they can from fans, in every way possible, especially ticket prices. If they are so bothered about saving the game for the fans then I expect ticket prices to half next season when clubs tv revenue goes up by around 70%.

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To state the obvious, FFP has got nothing to do with fans' interest an nothing to do with the well being of the majority of clubs, but has everything to do with preserving the status quo. If Uefa were genuinely interested in creating a fairer, more level playing field, they'd have started with the farce that is the allocation of Spanish TV money.

 

If they get their way, Arsenal and Man U will be this country's Barcelona and Real Madrid. In financial terms, the probability is that nobody else will get a look in. Liverpool aren't as big as they think they are, and Tottenham are seriously deluded. As for ourselves and Man City, financially healthy though we may be, we'll simply be prevented from fully utilising the resources that we have at our disposal.

 

And meanwhile, the stated aims of FFP will remain unaddressed, as unscrupulous, power hungry, and outright insane owners will be free to take over any club they choose and run it into the ground, as long as they can provide none too stringent evidence of being able to put the money up front.

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To state the obvious, FFP has got nothing to do with fans' interest an nothing to do with the well being of the majority of clubs, but has everything to do with preserving the status quo. If Uefa were genuinely interested in creating a fairer, more level playing field, they'd have started with the farce that is the allocation of Spanish TV money.

 

If they get their way, Arsenal and Man U will be this country's Barcelona and Real Madrid. In financial terms, the probability is that nobody else will get a look in. Liverpool aren't as big as they think they are, and Tottenham are seriously deluded. As for ourselves and Man City, financially healthy though we may be, we'll simply be prevented from fully utilising the resources that we have at our disposal.

 

And meanwhile, the stated aims of FFP will remain unaddressed, as unscrupulous, power hungry, and outright insane owners will be free to take over any club they choose and run it into the ground, as long as they can provide none too stringent evidence of being able to put the money up front.

seeing the FIFA celebration of Spainish football last week! the £154mill and the £124mill real and barca had are not going to end anytime too soon!

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One of the many things I don't understand with FFP is that UEFA fined Malaga as well as banning them for failing their stipulations. Really? They're going to take money off a club for not having enough money. You just couldn't make it up.

 

That again ties in with the Spanish TV revenue. Clubs like Malaga are being deprived of it whilst Barca and Real Madrid milk it all.

 

UEFA are such a joke it's unbelievable.

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One of the many things I don't understand with FFP is that UEFA fined Malaga as well as banning them for failing their stipulations. Really? They're going to take money off a club for not having enough money. You just couldn't make it up.

 

That again ties in with the Spanish TV revenue. Clubs like Malaga are being deprived of it whilst Barca and Real Madrid milk it all.

 

UEFA are such a joke it's unbelievable.

The same happened to Atletico when UEFA witheld their Europa League winnings which would have made them compliant. Spanish TV revenue is probably the biggest joke in the world though, Spanish clubs need to overspend to get into Europe to get the money to be able to compete, its a vicious circle as when you spend and don't make Europe ie Sevilla, you end up needing to sell all your best players to survive

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Tell that to all the 'La Liga is the greatest' muppets.

Spanish football has been the greatest problem to financial fair play since day one, but it only became a 'issue' when RA took over. Which shows that the biggest problem in European football are the muppets at UEFA. Spanish teams go in and out of Administration like it was a cup run, Spanish banks (those bastions of risk aversion) lend the clubs millions in euros they have no hope of getting back all under-pinned by the local and national governments with low interest loans to clubs in the form of 'tax deals'. In a time when 28% of Spain are on the dole, Athletico Madrid owe the taxman €155m that they pay less than 2% interest on.

The absurd 'beckham rule' came to an end last year so it will be interesting to see what happens in a couple of seasons time, but until the Spanish FA are bought into line FFP is just a joke without a punch line.

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Arsenal are the most greedy and spiteful club out there. They don't want to spend big money on players because of their 'socialist' policy, but they don't want other clubs like us to either. Gooners don't seem to understand this, they think if FFP stops us spending suddenly Arsenal will be able to buy all the players but it's just not true. All that will happen is Man United will win every year unchallenged and Arsenal will be distant 2nd also rans but their owner and Board think that as long as clubs like Chelsea aren't overtaking them their fans won't complain.

 

A COMPLETE JOKE! 

 

I really hate Arsenal, such a greedy, stuck up, pompous club thinking they are better than all the rest.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Official statement says Chelsea agree with the rules.

Premier League clubs today reached an agreement to introduce financial stability rules and wage controls for the league. Chelsea Football Club is supportive of moves that promote financial stability in football. We are already subject to UEFA's Financial Fair Play principles and will comply with those.

The new rules will be subject to further detailed discussions before they are brought in and we will play our part in those to ensure implementation is fair for all clubs in the league.

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