Not even good enough for qpr

That's not Fellaini...

Tomorrow's paper

Please, Zola, could you post that again with the Down clues fully visible?

Please, Zola, could you post that again with the Down clues fully visible?

Ever the intellect moi. Which is quite ironic on a rio ferdinand thread&

Ha ha. Fancy being dropped for Richard dunne, that's how sh*t he is.

Either I'm browsing The Mensa End forums or there's something wrong with that online test...

The person who created Mensa is an absolute genius. Here is a group one can join and pay money to in return they get some shoddy certificate to hang on the wall and get to boast about how truly intelligent they are.

Well, if somebody is going to blindly hand over money, I will tell them whatever the heck they want me to tell them. You sir, yes you! You are bloody genius. Here is your sheet of paper saying so. Oh and just make that check payable to...

I had my IQ tested when I was a teenager, and it came out to be 121.  Not too bad. I'm pretty satisfied with that score.

I had my IQ tested when I was a teenager, and it came out to be 121.  Not too bad. I'm pretty satisfied with that score.

Ferdinand is the epitome of what is wrong with modern society with his hypocrisy and general arrogance.

 

The man goes on about racism and takes offence which he has the right to do, but then he has the nerve to say derogatory things towards others like Ashley Cole and John Terry and then cry 'racism' when things don't go his way.

 

You can just tell from reading his tweets that Ferdinand is a unlikeable person and that his views and thoughts shouldn't be taken seriously. I can't stand him and hopefully he rots in the championship with a pathetic club like QPR! He deserves nothing more than that considering he's the most overrated player I've come to witness in the past decade or so.

 

Rio will never be half the person JT or Ashley Cole are and that's saying something considering both of them are not angels by any stretch of the imagination but at least they remain reserved and modest in difficult situations unlike him. 

The person who created Mensa is an absolute genius. Here is a group one can join and pay money to in return they get some shoddy certificate to hang on the wall and get to boast about how truly intelligent they are.

Well, if somebody is going to blindly hand over money, I will tell them whatever the heck they want me to tell them. You sir, yes you! You are bloody genius. Here is your sheet of paper saying so. Oh and just make that check payable to...

I agree. IQ tests measure a type of intelligence (essentially problem solving and memory) but does not take account of things like the much talked about 'common sense' and emotional intelligence, or skills like intuition or being street-wise or even hard work. My IQ test result is good but, being honest, I sometimes lack common sense. You can use intelligence to remember aspects of common sense but having common sense is something different. As someone once said, 'the problem with common sense is that it's not very common'...

The guy behind Mensa is a genuis, as you say!

I agree. IQ tests measure a type of intelligence (essentially problem solving and memory) but does not take account of things like the much talked about 'common sense' and emotional intelligence, or skills like intuition or being street-wise or even hard work. My IQ test result is good but, being honest, I sometimes lack common sense. You can use intelligence to remember aspects of common sense but having common sense is something different. As someone once said, 'the problem with common sense is that it's not very common'...

The guy behind Mensa is a genuis, as you say!

 

Because common sense, empathy, intuition and commitment are something else (not even skills as skills are learned). Intelligence by definition is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. An 'other type of intelligence' would be a set of valuable military or political information.

 

I won't argue about Mensa though, it's not like I'm a member :)

Good point Undertow. You are correct I think.

I'm glad we agree about Mensa :-)

Good point Undertow. You are correct I think.

I'm glad we agree about Mensa :-)

Mensa was formed post WWII, it's only fairly recently that 'plasticity' of the brain has been acknowledged. In the not too distant past there was an extraordinary documentary, quite late at night, about brain injury and the operations to heal damage that in the past would have been accepted as a no hope situation.

One thing that was absolutely fascinating was the waking of the patient mid brain surgery and asking them to speak so the surgeon could check that he wasn't removing too much of a tumour; amazing.

Just one thing is sure, the more we know the less we know.

I will come out of the closet on this and admit that I was once a member of Mensa.  I used to go to meetings in Glasgow. I gave up, because I found the people rather sad and narrow-minded.  I admit I may just have been unlucky with the group I joined, but they seemed inordinately proud of their IQs, as if in some way they were personally responsible for them.  They were not at all open to the notion that the genes they inherited were a matter of luck.

 

I had sort of (I suppose) expected scintillating conversation, exchange of philosophical ideas, discussion of films/theatre etc. Alas no..mostly a lot of bitching about people at work who weren't clever enough to understand them.

 

I find the concept of people getting together based on their IQs not that different from a group of women forming a 44 doubleD club for all women with busty substances that measure 44DD or over.

I find the concept of people getting together based on their IQs not that different from a group of women forming a 44 doubleD club for all women with busty substances that measure 44DD or over.

I agree Moi.

About that club you mention...err...is there one? They must have a very good annual meeting.

Good point Undertow. You are correct I think.

I'm glad we agree about Mensa :-)

 

We agree about both then, good :)

 

A few weeks ago Mensa held and IQ test/contest for companies in the SME sector in Hungary and a bunch of my colleagues participated (I already know that I'm smart so I skipped it :)). There was an online preliminary test, then a 2 hours long standard testing at their location. The latter consisted of a 30 min test period after a 1,5 hours sales pitch about why the participants should become Mensa members...

We agree about both then, good :)

A few weeks ago Mensa held and IQ test/contest for companies in the SME sector in Hungary and a bunch of my colleagues participated (I already know that I'm smart so I skipped it :)). There was an online preliminary test, then a 2 hours long standard testing at their location. The latter consisted of a 30 min test period after a 1,5 hours sales pitch about why the participants should become Mensa members...

If you are Hungarian, and this is your second language, then you are definately smart! :-)

Re. joining Mensa, I'm with Groucho Marx: 'I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member'!

This 44dd club you speak of, erm where is it's meetings held? No real reason, just curious.

I will come out of the closet on this and admit that I was once a member of Mensa.  I used to go to meetings in Glasgow. I gave up, because I found the people rather sad and narrow-minded.  I admit I may just have been unlucky with the group I joined, but they seemed inordinately proud of their IQs, as if in some way they were personally responsible for them.  They were not at all open to the notion that the genes they inherited were a matter of luck.

 

I had sort of (I suppose) expected scintillating conversation, exchange of philosophical ideas, discussion of films/theatre etc. Alas no..mostly a lot of bitching about people at work who weren't clever enough to understand them.

 

I find the concept of people getting together based on their IQs not that different from a group of women forming a 44 doubleD club for all women with busty substances that measure 44DD or over.

 

They should have applied their intelligence to identify their shortcomings and try to better themselves. Though I believe that is the responsibility of every person who has been blessed with a great brain and one of the few standards that I keep (and sadly often fail) for myself.

I agree Moi.

About that club you mention...err...is there one? They must have a very good annual meeting.

 

Every Friday night at Hugh Hefner's house ;)

This 44dd club you speak of, erm where is it's meetings held? No real reason, just curious.

 

 

There is a branch meeting on the 4th Friday of every month at 44, Dick Lane, Dongergob.

This 44dd club you speak of, erm where is it's meetings held? No real reason, just curious.

Don't tell me...you'd like to be club Treasurer so you can get your hands on their assets.

If you are Hungarian, and this is your second language, then you are definately smart! :-)

Re. joining Mensa, I'm with Groucho Marx: 'I don't care to belong to any club that will have me as a member'!

 

I am and it is actually the third. I learned Slovakian in elementary school for 8 years but I never used it after so I forgot almost all of it. We started English in the fourth grade, we were the first who could choose between Russian and English (that was in 1990).

I have to say though, reaching an acceptable level in English is not hard at all (as opposed to say, German or Slavic languages where you really have to grapple with the grammar rules before you can use the language). Mastering English is bloody tough however, supposing that one would like to improve. But if you care then there are countless possibilities to do so, I learned a lot on the Shed End too :) Moi sometimes makes me reach for the dictionary, for example, and that's great. When that happens you can bet your house that I use that word in a couple of emails in the following weeks during my work :D

I am and it is actually the third. I learned Slovakian in elementary school for 8 years but I never used it after so I forgot almost all of it. We started English in the fourth grade, we were the first who could choose between Russian and English (that was in 1990).

I have to say though, reaching an acceptable level in English is not hard at all (as opposed to say, German or Slavic languages where you really have to grapple with the grammar rules before you can use the language). Mastering English is bloody tough however, supposing that one would like to improve. But if you care then there are countless possibilities to do so, I learned a lot on the Shed End too :) Moi sometimes makes me reach for the dictionary, for example, and that's great. When that happens you can bet your house that I use that word in a couple of emails in the following weeks during my work :D

In all seriousness, that's very impressive Undertow.