Adrian Durham tonight's heads-gone "Balotelli has cost Liverpool £19.24m per goal"

 

Taking the transfer fee and wages into account of course - Brendan said it was a gamble signing Balotelli, guess he just got burned

This is the photo of Wenger s so so funny it really gets his personality right.

Really looking forward to next season, hoping to see more Zouma; hoping Cuadrado finds his groove as Willian seems to have done. The team will change shape in an exciting way I feel.

Also hoping issues such as reffing will be under robust scrutiny.

We have the lot and looking forward to the women's team and the youth team development.

Look forward to seeing what happens with Kane, would have said the same about Austin at one point, but I've gone off him.

I would not hold your breath on that one, the whole FA needs a complete overhaul.

If you score a hattrick and still lose then that's your defence's fault.

 

Defended him before, but he's the ultimate competitor. They do seem to have a tendency to be dickheads though, and have an ultra-competitive streak. 

 

He doesn't like not scoring - probably why he scores so much. Would love Eden to have a bit more of that in him.

 

You missed my point.

 

I said he's the type of man who would take a hattrick if it meant his team lost, meaning he doesn't care about the team he only cares about himself. 

You missed my point.

I said he's the type of man who would take a hattrick if it meant his team lost, meaning he doesn't care about the team he only cares about himself.

How do you know that though?

Have you asked him, has he said as much or are you completely guessing?

A rather naive and oddly over-confident feeling that he wouldn't do well here.

Far too many people underrate Guardiola on this site. Recent antics have put him in a more negative light but he is one of the best in the world and maybe even the best. Not just at managing but a brilliant coach as well.

 

It's not considering how he left Barcelona. He's obviously a fantastic coach nobody disputes that but he has awful temperament that is pretty much clear to see as day. Blaming the medical team and his antics aren't just pointed out by the media, he actually did that. Those things get pointed out because they are bizarre that's why they are pointed out. 

 

He even said he wanted to leave Barcelona before we knocked them out of the Champions League, rumours were always floating around. He might be a very talented coach, excellent philosopher, fantastic ideas to play football. But he lacks temperament, and that's always been a massive factor to success in the Premier League has it not? 

 

From what I've seen of him he doesn't seem cut out for the competition, he could barely handle Mourinho's comments despite getting the better of him all the time, that shows a lot of pessimism and superstition from the man a bit like Roberto Mancini, he isn't the most level headed. 

How do you know that though?

Have you asked him, has he said as much or are you completely guessing?

 

Uhm not sure tbh mate, could be something to do with shouting at his team mates for not giving him a tap in and then refusing to celebrate after his team go into the lead because he didn't score it. 

 

How many people berated Lukaku for it against United? Ronaldo has done it about 8 times this season already. Clear as day. 

Uhm not sure tbh mate, could be something to do with shouting at his team mates for not giving him a tap in and then refusing to celebrate after his team go into the lead because he didn't score it.

How many people berated Lukaku for it against United? Ronaldo has done it about 8 times this season already. Clear as day.

So you are guessing then.

Cool

So you are guessing then.

Cool

 

Guessing that he only cares about himself for not celebrating with his team after they score goal? Yeah that's a pretty safe assumption where I come from. 

Guessing that he only cares about himself for not celebrating with his team after they score goal? Yeah that's a pretty safe assumption where I come from.

You said he'd rather score a hattrick than his team winning.

I find that hard to believe considering he's constantly spoken about his hunger and drive to win trophies.

But yeah he'ds rather score goals than win the CL or La liga.

That's sound reasoning.

This was also the same player who started telling the media he is depressed and upset linking to rumours that he wanted to leave because Messi was winning the Ballon D'or at the time and he wasn't. Iniesta also won La Liga player of the year, despite his own team winning stuff at the time also, so when it comes to accomplishments and hunger he is probably talking about his own awards. 

You missed my point.

 

I said he's the type of man who would take a hattrick if it meant his team lost, meaning he doesn't care about the team he only cares about himself. 

 

Oh. I disagree.

 

I think he's the ultimate professional and every single footballer should look at him for inspiration. 

 

It's not considering how he left Barcelona. He's obviously a fantastic coach nobody disputes that but he has awful temperament that is pretty much clear to see as day. Blaming the medical team and his antics aren't just pointed out by the media, he actually did that. Those things get pointed out because they are bizarre that's why they are pointed out. 

 

He even said he wanted to leave Barcelona before we knocked them out of the Champions League, rumours were always floating around. He might be a very talented coach, excellent philosopher, fantastic ideas to play football. But he lacks temperament, and that's always been a massive factor to success in the Premier League has it not? 

 

From what I've seen of him he doesn't seem cut out for the competition, he could barely handle Mourinho's comments despite getting the better of him all the time, that shows a lot of pessimism and superstition from the man a bit like Roberto Mancini, he isn't the most level headed. 

 

So he doesn't have the temperament to succeed but Jose does? Don't think I agree with that.

 

As it stands I think it's very odd the way Bayern's medical team worked (at a clinic in the city, not at the club??) and let's not forget that of any 'top' manager, Jose has still done the worst thing any of us has probably seen hasn't he? He lost it and disgraced himself, but we don't judge him by that so I think it's a bit rich to judge Guardiola by a few outbursts here and there. What he manages to get from players should be respected in my opinion.

This was also the same player who started telling the media he is depressed and upset linking to rumours that he wanted to leave because Messi was winning the Ballon D'or at the time and he wasn't. Iniesta also won La Liga player of the year, despite his own team winning stuff at the time also, so when it comes to accomplishments and hunger he is probably talking about his own awards.

It's actually pretty simple tbh.

There's no way he would have won as much as he has if he was out for himself, he just wouldn't be able to.

He's got 3 EPL titles, FA cups, 2 CL's and Spanish ones too.

He's self driven and clearly want's to be in the limelight which some find cringe which is understandable but did he not just set up the winning goal to take Madrid into the semi's of the CL? Surely if he's about himself and goals he'd have shot himself instead of pulling it back for Hernandez?

He's self driven and clearly want's to be in the limelight which some find cringe which is understandable but did he not just set up the winning goal to take Madrid into the semi's of the CL? Surely if he's about himself and goals he'd have shot himself instead of pulling it back for Hernandez?

 

Surely if he's *not* all about himself, he would've celebrated the goal with everyone else, instead of celebrating like he scored the goal. He did make the goal, mind you, but it's definitely not the first time he's celebrated a goal like he scored it when he has assisted it or was part of creating it. He seems to have an issue with anyone else at the club earning more money than him (he always seems to be unhappy around the time some other star player gets an improved contract) and for some reason the club had to release a statement that claimed that Ronaldo is still the most expensive player, although Bale actually cost more. For such a talented footballer, he does seem to have a pretty fragile, although bloated ego.

Surely if he's *not* all about himself, he would've celebrated the goal with everyone else, instead of celebrating like he scored the goal. He did make the goal, mind you, but it's definitely not the first time he's celebrated a goal like he scored it when he has assisted it or was part of creating it. He seems to have an issue with anyone else at the club earning more money than him (he always seems to be unhappy around the time some other star player gets an improved contract) and for some reason the club had to release a statement that claimed that Ronaldo is still the most expensive player, although Bale actually cost more. For such a talented footballer, he does seem to have a pretty fragile, although bloated ego.

Of course he has a huge ego, no one is debating that fact.

However to suggest he'd rather score goals than his team winning is rather silly.

Are you telling me Ronaldo would happily be at a team who wasn't winning things year in year out?

I believe wholeheartedly he cares about himself more than he cares about the team yes. 

Are you telling me Ronaldo would happily be at a team who wasn't winning things year in year out?

 

No, but I will say is that he seems to value the personal accolades higher than the titles that the team has won.

Oh. I disagree.

 

I think he's the ultimate professional and every single footballer should look at him for inspiration. 

 

 

So he doesn't have the temperament to succeed but Jose does? Don't think I agree with that.

 

As it stands I think it's very odd the way Bayern's medical team worked (at a clinic in the city, not at the club??) and let's not forget that of any 'top' manager, Jose has still done the worst thing any of us has probably seen hasn't he? He lost it and disgraced himself, but we don't judge him by that so I think it's a bit rich to judge Guardiola by a few outbursts here and there. What he manages to get from players should be respected in my opinion.

 

It is respected, like I said we all know what he is capable of.

 

His temperament on the other hand is a true weakness. Jose has gone in bust ups but it isn't the same thing. Arsene Wenger has good temperament for example, the amount of sh*t he's took over the years yet he still hasn't given up. Guardiola in my opinion would crumble under that pressure, like he did at Barcelona with all the mind games. He looks a nervous wreck at Bayern now. 

 

His antics say a lot, he is easily worried. 

No, but I will say is that he seems to value the personal accolades higher than the titles that the team has won.

 

He has to make everything about him, like when he tried to steal the limelight for scoring a penalty he dived for in the CL final last season. 

 

You either respect him or you don't. 

No, but I will say is that he seems to value the personal accolades higher than the titles that the team has won.

If he is doing both then what's the problem?

Folk can't say he'd rather score a goal than see his team win, it's based on guesswork.

Or maybe you can understand the assumption considering he refuses to celebrate when someone scores a goal and not him. 

 

Because for me it's just guess work from you also to think that he loves his team more than his own personal glories. 

Or maybe you can understand the assumption considering he refuses to celebrate when someone scores a goal and not him.

Because for me it's just guess work from you also to think that he loves his team more than his own personal glories.

It's not guess work.

Look at his record in football and trophies won, it's clear he values both pretty high.

To say he'd rather score goals than his team winning things goes totally against his record.

It's based all on how he looks on camera, take that away and look at his actual footballing record and you soon realise that comment is daft.

If he is doing both then what's the problem?

Folk can't say he'd rather score a goal than see his team win, it's based on guesswork.

 

No, I can't say he'd rather score a goal than see his team win, but I can say that he'd rather have everything be about himself. Sometimes he hasn't even contributed to the goal and still he does that stupid 180 degree jump celebration, like it was all about him. Then again... Just go to the Champions League final and look at the celebrations after the goals. After the last gasp equaliser Ronaldo doesn't celebrate with the others and looks almost glum. Well he does go and kick the ball into the net after the goal has been scored, though. I can't remember seeing him anywhere near the celebrations after Bale's winner and does he go and celebrate or congratulate Marcelo after his goal? Of course he doesn't. But then he celebrates the meaningless 4-1 penalty goal like it's the winner. I think his behaviour speaks volumes about what he values more.

It's not guess work.

Look at his record in football and trophies won, it's clear he values both pretty high.

To say he'd rather score goals than his team winning things goes totally against his record.

It's based all on how he looks on camera, take that away and look at his actual footballing record and you soon realise that comment is daft.

 

So your whole argument is just clear statistics? Now from what you see out of his antics or his behaviour? 

But if Real don't win the league, can it really be the fault of a bloke who scores 50 goals a season? The whole club is a farce. Remember them getting rid of Makelele because the idiots who ran the club didn't think he did anything important.

 

Best thing Real ever did.

 

 

 

 

...for Chelsea, that is :)