Where to begin?

1) Starting the pre-season with 8 registered players and no goalkeepers. Imagine Chelsea doing that and you gain an understanding of just how ridiculous that sounds.

2) The Oystons pocketing parachute payments from Blackpool's 2010/11 PL relegation and not re-investing into the club.

3) Not being able to provide enough kits for their players to the point where their goalkeeper had to wear an autographed shirt during a game!

4) Owen Oyston being a convincted rapist (N.B: I know how 'flexible' UK libel laws are, so I'd like to point out that this is a fact, not just my opinion).

5) Suing a retired pensioner for 20 thousand pounds for 'libel'.

6) Taking action against fan forums who dare criticise them.

7) Karl Oyston's mockery of the fans with his license plate saying 'OYSTON OUT'.

8) Removing statutes of legends from Blackpool FC's ground.

9) Leaving training facilities in a state of utter disrepair.

Basically, they're the sort of owners who make the likes of Venky's, Mike Ashley and Hicks & Gillett (sic?) look good.

Read about this yesterday. Feel for the Blackpool fans because their owners do seem to have declared war on them almost.

Absolutely despicable and fair play to the protest yesterday. Hope it succeeds.

How disgusting for a professional to have the drive to be the best he can be, to work harder at his game than almost any other pro.

 

My point was that when you're in a team game, you play for the team and the individual records come as a bonus. Ronaldo seems so obsessed with scoring goals that he's finding it hard to celebrate when his team mate does. This lousy attitude has reared its head recently when he's been close to and breaking records. He seemed more of a team player when it wasn't all about reaching some milestone or another.

1 hissy fit, compared to at least 10 so far this year by Ronaldo.

I'm not saying he's not a great player, but his attitude sucks and as person he's a bellend!

I don't know him personally but he seems to be a decent enough bloke who is dedicated to making himself the best he can be. But he's good looking, successful and doesn't seem to embarrassed about celebrating that so of course some people will think he's flash or something. Typical British mentality in many ways.

I've got nothing but respect for someone who works hard at something and becomes the best in the world at it.

My point was that when you're in a team game, you play for the team and the individual records come as a bonus. Ronaldo seems so obsessed with scoring goals that he's finding it hard to celebrate when his team mate does. This lousy attitude has reared its head recently when he's been close to and breaking records. He seemed more of a team player when it wasn't all about reaching some milestone or another.

His job in that team is to score goals. That's the yardstick by which he is measured and if he does still then the team does better.

Tearing him down because he's good at what he's asked to do is bizarre. If he's disappointed that he doesn't score then his reaction seems to be to make sure he scores next time.

That's a winners mentality.

They aren't mutually exclusive. He can be the best in the world due to his fantastic hard work and professionalism, but also a bellend.

Think everyone must be over 18.

 

Ah bugger, I had a feeling that was the case.

 

Will do a bet online instead, £3 Terry first goal scorer, got that feeling.........

One of whom got sent off in a semi final for kicking a player and another who got sent off in a final for slapping someone.

But both are still legends.

What's Ronaldo ever done to compromise a team's result in such a way? Nothing.

I imagine any response to this won't focus much on Ronaldo

 

My god...

 

You mean in other words one got sent off for nudging someone in the back of the leg and the other got sent off for scraping Vidic's chin. 

Edited May 3, 201511 yr by Sloth

They aren't mutually exclusive. He can be the best in the world due to his fantastic hard work and professionalism, but also a bellend.

What makes him a bellend? Of course some will think he is but as a person in his normal life he seems quiet, modest and a decent father and human being. He's reported to give a large amount to charity too so am I missing something?

His job in that team is to score goals. That's the yardstick by which he is measured and if he does still then the team does better.

Tearing him down because he's good at what he's asked to do is bizarre. If he's disappointed that he doesn't score then his reaction seems to be to make sure he scores next time.

That's a winners mentality.

 

I'm not sure if you're misinterpreting my point on purpose, but it's not the scoring goals part that irritates me. It's the part that he's so obsessed about being the one who scores the goals that he's not celebrating goals that his team mates score. I mentioned it earlier, but he didn't really celebrate any of the other Real Madrid goals in the Champions League final last season, but when he scored the fairly meaningless 4-1 from the penalty spot, he celebrated it like it was the winner. He might be one of the hardest working footballers out there, but he's also comes across as a spoilt brat who doesn't want to share the toys. 

Some people can't look past Ronaldo's personality when it comes down to what he does on the pitch.

That's fine but it's beyond doubt Ronaldo is on of the greatest players to have ever kicked a ball.

Hugely successful people tend to have an ego and ridiculous self belief I find, not everyone of course but the majority.

Some people can't look past Ronaldo's personality when it comes down to what he does on the pitch.

That's fine but it's beyond doubt Ronaldo is on of the greatest players to have ever kicked a ball.

Hugely successful people tend to have an ego and ridiculous self belief I find, not everyone of course but the majority.

 

If you asked me which one I'd want in my team, Raul in his prime or current day Ronaldo, I'd pick Raul every time. Model professional, great team player, no ego and gets you goals, goals and yet more goals. Just because you're a goal scorer, doesn't mean you have to be a primadonna.

Not really, I don't put him in the same bracket as Messi or fat Ronaldo, they are the two best players I've ever seen play. Also in second tier I don't put him in the same bracket as Zidane or Ronaldinho. 

 

Although I think he is one of the best goal scorers to ever grace the planet, I don't think he is even close to Messi as a technical player. I actually believe he has gotten worse as an overall player since he started concentrating on his goal record. He has became more of a poacher than anything. At United he used to be full of flair and loved taking players on, wasn't as good as Zidane or Ronaldinho though but he was very good.

 

That's my opinion anyway, I've often thought he was an is an overrated player. That's not because I don't like the man that's just my honest opinion of him, like I said I hate Suarez but I can't deny that I love watching him play.

I have no doubts about Ronaldos footballing ability, but what matters in a team game isn't if you score, its if your team wins.

 

You can be disapointed after the game if you missed an easy chance, but on the pitch you should be caught up in the game, not concerning yourself with personal glory!

I have no doubts about Ronaldos footballing ability, but what matters in a team game isn't if you score, its if your team wins.

 

You can be disapointed after the game if you missed an easy chance, but on the pitch you should be caught up in the game, not concerning yourself with personal glory!

 

That's what I mean, I don't understand on what grounds people take it up to ask why don't you like Ronaldo? I think there is a pretty good reason for it. 

If you asked me which one I'd want in my team, Raul in his prime or current day Ronaldo, I'd pick Raul every time. Model professional, great team player, no ego and gets you goals, goals and yet more goals. Just because you're a goal scorer, doesn't mean you have to be a primadonna.

I'd take the better player, the one who did it in two leagues.

Look I understand that people might think he's egotistical on the pitch and focuses too much on personal goals but I think that's just the way he gets the most out of himself.

Off the pitch he's supposed to be a property family man who gives a huge amount to charity. He doesn't drink, doesn't get caught up in scandals and makes himself the best he can be.

Maybe some of his antics on the pitch will rub people the wrong way but there's always going to be people out there to criticise and tear you down when you're at the top. We get it more than most. Haters gonna hate.

I have no doubts about Ronaldos footballing ability, but what matters in a team game isn't if you score, its if your team wins.

You can be disapointed after the game if you missed an easy chance, but on the pitch you should be caught up in the game, not concerning yourself with personal glory!

And his teams win. In fact he's been integral to his teams successes.

He'd win more if he wasn't competing with one of the best teams ever who have the greatest player of all time up front.

I do find some of the criticism that people like him and Jose receive to be odd but it's part of the game.

Some people can't look past Ronaldo's personality when it comes down to what he does on the pitch.

That's fine but it's beyond doubt Ronaldo is on of the greatest players to have ever kicked a ball.

Hugely successful people tend to have an ego and ridiculous self belief I find, not everyone of course but the majority.

This is the thing, Ronaldo for his ego backs it up.

He is an odd one though in the the hard work and determination he shows are idol for kids to look up to yet his behaviour at times with the goal scoring thing is the exact opposite of that.

'I do find some of the criticism that people like him and Jose receive to be odd but it's part of the game.'

Oh how that made me roar with laughter, look back at some of your Jose posts!

This is the thing, Ronaldo for his ego backs it up.

He is an odd one though in the the hard work and determination he shows are idol for kids to look up to yet his behaviour at times with the goal scoring thing is the exact opposite of that.

 

 

 

That he certainly does no one is saying he's a Nicklas Bendtner, but I believe he puts his own glory ahead of the team, which is why I wouldn't want him at Chelsea. 

 

No one is discrediting what he does off the pitch as in training. 

'I do find some of the criticism that people like him and Jose receive to be odd but it's part of the game.'

Oh how that made me roar with laughter, look back at some of your Jose posts!

Which ones?

People say Zlatan has a terrible attitude and he's done some daft things to his team mates, but at least he can appreciate it when a team mate scores a goal.

 

 

Sure, he's not on the pitch anymore when Cavani scores the goal, but I just can't imagine seeing Ronaldo applauding a goal like that.

 

And here's a goal compilation with some more Cavani's goals.

 

 

Just look at Zlatan after the goals. Whenever he can be seen, he seems happy about the goal and he actually celebrates or applauds the goals.

People say Zlatan has a terrible attitude and he's done some daft things to his team mates, but at least he can appreciate it when a team mate scores a goal.

Sure, he's not on the pitch anymore when Cavani scores the goal, but I just can't imagine seeing Ronaldo applauding a goal like that.

And here's a goal compilation with some more Cavani's goals.

Just look at Zlatan after the goals. Whenever he can be seen, he seems happy about the goal and he actually celebrates or applauds the goals.

You could post hundreds of Ronaldo clips of the same thing....

Cherry picking the ones that suit you is hardly conclusive lol

Zlatan talks about himself in the third person but has spent just one season in a top European league.

Now you might say Italy was a top league but how many of his years were spent at a club who fixed matches?

Ronaldo did it in the two toughest leagues and won the champions league at both clubs.

You could post hundreds of Ronaldo clips of the same thing....

Cherry picking the ones that suit you is hardly conclusive lol

 

Cherry picking? They were the first ones that I could find. I typed in search words "Cavani PSG goals" because I knew Zlatan would be on the pitch during most of them. Those were the first ones that came up. But if you want to cherry pick, find me several examples of Zlatan being unhappy after his team mate scores a goal. I know I can easily find some of Ronaldo.

Zlatan talks about himself in the third person but has spent just one season in a top European league.

Now you might say Italy was a top league but how many of his years were spent at a club who fixed matches?

Ronaldo did it in the two toughest leagues and won the champions league at both clubs.

 

That's still not the point, Ronaldo isn't the most arrogant player, it doesn't matter how good one is and one isn't. But he does put his own personal glories ahead of the team a lot, whether it's his motivation technique or not it has always been me me me with him.