I agree with Konakai blue..........Emanalo has never picked the team to play so why blame him ?

The youth team were basically ignored or given lip service by Jose ............For some reason (what we don't know) .....Jose did not trust more than about 12 players and he drove them into the ground last season.......then during pre/season he decided to give them extra holidays and a lot of them came back over weight and were deluded into thinking they could just turn up and win without putting in too much effort.

Jose lost the plot big time and suddenly it's all Emanalo's fault !

We know the majority of the transfers of players "out and in" were bad decisions......but surely that can not be all down to Emanalo.

The manager ( Jose ) and the Cheif executive officer ( Marina Gravanoskai) should also take their share of responsibility for those decisions.

Emanalo is not beyond reproach.......but it's not all his fault.

His speech to the media when Jose was sacked was only the truth.......Jose had basically lost the dressing room.

Emanalo is just doing his job, like any one else, he makes mistakes, and every football fan thinks they can do a better job.....that's the World over..........his is more qualified than most of us, as he's played the game at a high level (World cup) albeit a few years ago for Nigeria. Granted he is not the usual type of bloke we expect to see at a club like ours, but at the end of the day, Roman sees something in him that he likes, and Roman runs our club.

Emanalo is just doing his job, like any one else, he makes mistakes, and every football fan thinks they can do a better job.....that's the World over..........his is more qualified than most of us, as he's played the game at a high level (World cup) albeit a few years ago for Nigeria. Granted he is not the usual type of bloke we expect to see at a club like ours, but at the end of the day, Roman sees something in him that he likes, and Roman runs our club.

 

What type of bloke would you expect to see in a position like that at a 'big club'? 

 

Look, he gets a lot of stick and for a variety of reasons. His hiring, the Wilkins sacking, the appointment of Benitez apparently at his suggestion, the fact that in his time here there have been more head coaches than academy products brought through despite that falling under his purview, the perception that he's Roman's man like Grant was before him, etc.

 

What people like me want is the club to be run like it's a top European football club. Instead we're run like Roman's plaything where he hires his mates but makes the footballing decisions, flitting from one style of football to another like a pre-teen with ADHD.

 

Isn't that what we all want? 

 

That's the amazing thing about this discussion. No-one is honestly saying they're happy that Emenalo is our Technical Director are they or that they wouldn't like to see things done differently? Instead we have bullsh*t about racism or simply blaming Jose or Carlo or anyone else.

 

Let's just judge the man on his track record, something that wasn't done when he was hired.

I am the same as the majority of fans and would love to see the youth team players be given a proper chance to prove themselves in the 1st team.

That decision rests with the manager or chief coach ! Not Emanalo....he does not pick the team.

A few years ago....The board decided to use the youth team as a business model......train em up, ship em out on loan and sell em for a profit, end of.

That worked all the time we were winning trophies, and also whilst most of the other premier league clubs couldn't afford to compete with us in the transfer market........but Now they can, and they've wised up their scouting, so we the playing field is more even than it was before.

However what ever the transfer market is........the real hard core fans like me and you are fed up with that business model.....and we want to see our home grown youth players be given a proper go in the 1st team, as against going out recruiting average players with no affinity to our club.

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I am the same as the majority of fans and would love to see the youth team players be given a proper chance to prove themselves in the 1st team.

That decision rests with the manager or chief coach ! Not Emanalo....he does not pick the team.

 

 

But his job is to take this group of 18 year olds who are amongst the best in the world and plot a development path for them isn't it? In five years, how many have come through that system and made the first team squad?

 

A few years ago....The board decided to use the youth team as a business model......train em up, ship em out on loan and sell em for a profit, end of.

That worked all the time we were winning trophies, and also whilst most of the other premier league clubs couldn't afford to compete with us in the transfer market........but Now they can, and they've wised up their scouting, so we the playing field is more even than it was before.

 

 

He's explicitly said that isn't the case, although the players he mentioned in 2013 as being next have all been sold so he might just be talking sh*t.

 

However what ever the transfer market is........the real hard core fans like me and you are fed up with that business model.....and we want to see our home grown youth players be given a proper go in the 1st team, as against going out recruiting average players with no affinity to our club.

 

 

Absolutely agree but that takes willingness on the part of the owner, shrewd actions by the Technical Director and a coach who is willing and able to do that.

 

It's a gradual process though and it needs the right leadership team which is what I think we're lacking. It's frustrating because we do have so much potential at this club.

Why don't you show us your evidence of a member always backing Africans?

Christ, thats pathetic. This thread is the topic in question, you say there is a racist undertone so you should be able to go quote those posts in this topic with the racist undertones. Me saying I believe someone is biased towards african players is hardly in the same league as you claiming members of this forum are racist. Now, show us the evidence.

We have won a hell lot of silverware since Roman bought us.........we've had one bad, sorry horrendous season !

We don't things by half at Chelsea do we !

Let's give Emanalo a break and see how we get on with Conte next season.......things can only get better !

I was classed as a racist just because I didn't want Diego S as our manager, who i referred to as a s**c, but that's a word my generation have used for years...... the same type of word my generation as when I ask the Mrs whether she wants a "chinky" or not ? ( that's a Chinese meal from my local friendly Chinese restaurant) ...As far as I'm concerned that doesn't make me a racist.

I was classed as a racist just because I didn't want Diego S as our manager, who i referred to as a s**c, but that's a word my generation have used for years...... the same type of word my generation as when I ask the Mrs whether she wants a "chinky" or not ? ( that's a Chinese meal from my local friendly Chinese restaurant) ...As far as I'm concerned that doesn't make me a racist.

Are you an ex army Geordie ?

 

Klopp LVG Pochettino have all brought through youth when under immense pressure. You cannot blame Emanalo because our manager didn't bring through youth. In Jose's case, he said he wanted to be here long term, the board could've sacked him way earlier than they did which highlights their reluctance to pull the plug.

It's so easy. You have a youth player train with the first team. You give him minutes and watch him either shine or faulter. This excuse about instant success doesn't wash with me. As we have seen, not playing youth doesn't guarantee success anyway.

Some coaches know how to work with youth and some don't.

Klopp - struggling to think which young players he has brought through under intense pressure. Liverpool are not playing for anything in the league, let's see if any youngsters play in the semi final of the Europa League

LVG - been through this loads, only played youth because of the bad injury situation.

Pochettino - yep Alli was brought and given a chance in the team, his worked out well. But at the beginning of the season wasn't intense pressure.

Klopp - struggling to think which young players he has brought through under intense pressure. Liverpool are not playing for anything in the league, let's see if any youngsters play in the semi final of the Europa League

LVG - been through this loads, only played youth because of the bad injury situation.

Pochettino - yep Alli was brought and given a chance in the team, his worked out well. But at the beginning of the season wasn't intense pressure.

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Klopp has given a few youth players a chance. I've seen 2-3 youth players been given games since his appointment. Most recently was 2 weeks ago vs Stoke, a young English black player superbly beat his marker and laid a cross for Sturridge to finish.

Yes LVG brought through youth because of injuries but LVG is the type of manager to develop youth anyway. Unlike LVG, Jose would resort to playing players out of position before trusting youth. He would most likely play Willian at RB and Hazard as a striker before giving youth a chance.

Poch has given youth a chance ever since his days at Southampton and he's done it this season at various stages. Similar to Jose Poch hasn't been given any money to spend (for two years in fact) only difference is Poch has refused to sulk and worked the best with his resources as a true manager should do.

ShedEnder I'm sorry mate but I think this so called responsibility that Emanalo has to bring through youth is bullocks.

How many other people in his position at other clubs hold responsibility for youth development at first team level and manager recruitment?

Also Wilkins was sacking was down to Ron Goulray, the Benitez appointment worked out rather well and we slightly overrated just because he said we have plastic flags? Big deal, Jose said our support is crap and Liverpool's is fantastic and now they use this as song to take the p!ss. But yet again Jose can do no wrong.

The funny thing is I'm not Emanalos biggest fan, I just don't understand all the hate. He gets all the blame for recruitment and the youth development but yet gets no credit for the many things this club has done right in these last 5 years.

the accusation was made based on historical evidence of him backing everything African on this site. As for disrespect , I find it abhorrent that you can insinuate members of this forum are racist for questioning the input of Emenalo. its a disgusting thing to do and makes me think your a complete prick, no matter what colour you are.

Why the abuse? Can't you grow up?

Some very good points KonaKai Blue.

IMO some people look for an easy scapegoat (even though it's a bloke from Nigeria who no ones ever heard !....it's not his fault ........that Roman happened to offer him a job.........if Roman offered you a job, wouldn't you take it !

Am 100% sure that Roman would have sacked him by now, if he didn't think he was up to the job.......Lets face it....Roman didn't become a billionaire without being ruthless)

It's definately ludicrous...... to put the blame for the lack of youth development into the 1st team at Emanalo's door, especially as he does not pick the team.

As I have said before.....the Board decided years ago to use our Academy as a Business model, stack em high, train em up, ship em out and sell em on at a profit..........most of us true purist football fans want the Board to make some changes to that business model.......as having more than 30 youth players out on loan is FAR TOO MANY and is a ludicrous situation.

The logistics, energy and costs associated with operating that business model is massive and monitoring over 30 players out on loan makes it impossible not to make mistakes by letting go of perfectly good players who am sure if given the proper chance and patience by our Chief Coach / manager (that is not Emanalo as he does not pick the team) am sure some of the would have succeeded in making progress to our 1st team.

I know Barcelona academy have a lot of youth in their out on loan etc, but we are not Barcelona ! Not yet ! LOL

Chelsea fc is now a big club, run as a business, However let's remember our roots.....our foundations as a club, were built on bringing youth through ( before Roman took over) having Money des not guarantee success......We are essentially an old school English family club and Without any home grown youth in our 1st team, we are left with a soul less club, and a lot dissalusioned youth players and fed up fans.

The Board have to take responsibility and change their business model, by greatly reducing the numbers out on loan, stop buying average type players at 18 million pounds and give proper support and direction for Conte and any future Chief coach or manager we get TO GIVE OUR HOME GROWN YOUTH Academy players a proper chance in the 1st team.

As someone of a minority race I'm aware that in football as in the greater society both overt and subtle racism exist. For example I think that Ryan Giggs being a white British guy has made it easier for him to rehabilitate his reputation and get on the very short list of candidates to head Man United, though I don't see him actually getting the job. I also see a disparity in maximum potential commercial endorsement money. There's no way Beckham would have gotten as rich if he were black.

With Emanalo I don't see race as a factor. The Premier League isn't devoid of racism, but when it comes to criticism, I don't perceive a difference between the races. Mikel and Matic are comparable players, and they are equally likely to get credit and criticism. Willian is a popular player, our three most promising youth are all black, and Drogba is a legend who is appreciated for not just his playing but also his leadership.

Things were stacked against Emanalo from the beginning because it's perceived, rightly or wrongly, that he politicked, kissed ass, and wiggled his way into a position that he's unqualified for. Sometimes seemingly unqualified people do a great job, but Emanalo hasn't done a great job, though I don't think he's been as disastrous as some people think. I think people are above all upset that while everyone else's position is under constant threat, Emanalo's job seems secure. He also hasn't ingratiated himself with his statements.

The fan criticism of him would be the same if he were white.

Will people still criticize him if José had kept the likes of Lukaku, De bruyn, Mata, F Luis, D Luiz? Imagine those players are part of our current squad, would we be where we are on the table right now?

People only blame Emenalo for Jose failure!

Like everything in football it's not about pure talent, you also need hard work, good luck and good balance. IMO either ME isn't talented, the managers he is part of choosing don't fit well with his player choices or its just bad luck.

It's really hard to judge anything when we don't really know the internals of the team. ME clearly has a knack for spotting talented players, he needs to find the right manager at the right time who shares his vision. Mourinho I was never that man. AvB could have been that man but didn't quite make it. I think Conte will be a very good manager for us but time will tell if ME and Conte will fit together well.

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We have won a hell lot of silverware since Roman bought us.........we've had one bad, sorry horrendous season !

We don't things by half at Chelsea do we !

Let's give Emanalo a break and see how we get on with Conte next season.......things can only get better !

You know Conte will also bring in some players, if any of those players fail to leave up to expectations or Conte himself fail to improve us next season, then people will still come back here to ask who the f**k is Emenalo!

It's getting boring retreading the same path, but correcting factual inaccuracies really is more than it's worth which is why I doubt anyone will go through the posts above line by line.

 

Truth is Emenalo isn't going anywhere, neither is Roman. Many of us feel that the identity of this club has been stripped away over the last few years but we love this club so we can't really go anywhere.

 

Therefore we have to hope that the club starts changing it's ways. G3.7 made a good point that I've often thought about, that maybe Roman's hesitation in sacking Jose was a sign of increasing patience. He's learning how to run a club on the job so maybe he's maturing. 

 

We can't change anything. It's been shown time and time again that the club don't really care about the supporters and will attempt to trounce over the most sacred institutions (the CPO) and lie to us to get their way. So we've just got to sit dispassionately and hope that this franchise (which is what it's becoming) does better in future. That means rebuilding an identity, getting a core of homegrown talent who we can identify with and building something we're proud of and is uniquely Chelsea again.

 

If Emenalo won't go then I have to hope he can change and be part of that, so I'll have to support him because what other option is there?

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Klopp has given a few youth players a chance. I've seen 2-3 youth players been given games since his appointment. Most recently was 2 weeks ago vs Stoke, a young English black player superbly beat his marker and laid a cross for Sturridge to finish.

Yes LVG brought through youth because of injuries but LVG is the type of manager to develop youth anyway. Unlike LVG, Jose would resort to playing players out of position before trusting youth. He would most likely play Willian at RB and Hazard as a striker before giving youth a chance.

Poch has given youth a chance ever since his days at Southampton and he's done it this season at various stages. Similar to Jose Poch hasn't been given any money to spend (for two years in fact) only difference is Poch has refused to sulk and worked the best with his resources as a true manager should do.

Klopp - when has he given youth a chance under severe pressure like you say? League is over for them, I know Klopp did play some youth when there injuries where bad.

LVG - he would of brought through youth anyway, I very much doubt that. Rubbish response.

Poch - so Spurs havnt improved there squad for 2 years, ok then. Yes played youngsters at Southampton but there not battling for prem titles or under severe pressure like you say.

Klopp - when has he given youth a chance under severe pressure like you say? League is over for them, I know Klopp did play some youth when there injuries where bad.

LVG - he would of brought through youth anyway, I very much doubt that. Rubbish response.

Poch - so Spurs havnt improved there squad for 2 years, ok then. Yes played youngsters at Southampton but there not battling for prem titles or under severe pressure like you say.

Klopp has had pressure on him the moment he walked in. To say he's only doing it because he's not under pressure is ridiculous. Klopp is known for building teams without relying on money.

How isit rubbish to suggest lvg would've brought through youth anyway. Didn't he throw that cb Blackett in the deep end from game one? Ask any united fan, as much as they think LVG is useless, the one positive is that he gives youth a chance and continues to play them.

People like to bang on about net spend this and net spend that so just have a look at Tottenham's gross and net spend since he has been in charge. He's had hardly anything to work with yet hasn't complained, built his squad on a budget and is doing pretty well.

We weren't battling for the title after game 10 and the youth weren't given a chance. Oh wait I guess the pressure of facing relegation could be seen as a reason for the youth not to play back in October.

People like to bang on about net spend this and net spend that so just have a look at Tottenham's gross and net spend since he has been in charge. He's had hardly anything to work with yet hasn't complained, built his squad on a budget and is doing pretty well.

 

That's a good point because Spurs have spent very little, but look at how they treat their core players. Kane was loaned out in a very similar fashion to Bamford, yet Bamford has to go on yet another loan.

 

Alli has come through MK Dons and been a revelation yet we didn't sign him because we had Baker (whom I like). But what did we do with Baker? Loaned him out after he'd been at MK Dons to Vitesse because....well that's what we do.

 

You can talk about Jose and blame it all on him but can't you see that there may be an underlying issue at this club? Or do you think it's all Jose's fault?

 

Either way, it's getting so damn boring going over the same sh*t listening to your 'interpretations' of stuff with no actual thoughts about what could be done to rectify the issue. Ernie's patience with you is saintlike.

You know Conte will also bring in some players, if any of those players fail to leave up to expectations or Conte himself fail to improve us next season, then people will still come back here to ask who the f**k is Emenalo!

 

He's Technical Director. When things go wrong then he deserves his share of the blame. Or shall we just pretend that any criticism of him is racist?

That's a good point because Spurs have spent very little, but look at how they treat their core players. Kane was loaned out in a very similar fashion to Bamford, yet Bamford has to go on yet another loan.

 

Alli has come through MK Dons and been a revelation yet we didn't sign him because we had Baker (whom I like). But what did we do with Baker? Loaned him out after he'd been at MK Dons to Vitesse because....well that's what we do.

 

You can talk about Jose and blame it all on him but can't you see that there may be an underlying issue at this club? Or do you think it's all Jose's fault?

 

Either way, it's getting so damn boring going over the same sh*t listening to your 'interpretations' of stuff with no actual thoughts about what could be done to rectify the issue. Ernie's patience with you is saintlike.

I have never known anyone who twists and turns everything to still try and prove there point is right. You know LVG was always going to play Rashford, nothing to do with the injuries ;)

Let's look at Spurs transfers - Wimmer, Alderwierld, Trippier, Dier, Alli, Davies have all IMPROVED the squad.

I have never known anyone who twists and turns everything to still try and prove there point is right. You know LVG was always going to play Rashford, nothing to do with the injuries ;)

Let's look at Spurs transfers - Wimmer, Alderwierld, Trippier, Dier, Alli, Davies have all IMPROVED the squad.

 

And Van Gaal would rather play a youngster than a senior player out of position apparently? Must've been a different Carrick in defence or a different Fellaini up front.

Klopp has had pressure on him the moment he walked in. To say he's only doing it because he's not under pressure is ridiculous. Klopp is known for building teams without relying on money.

How isit rubbish to suggest lvg would've brought through youth anyway. Didn't he throw that cb Blackett in the deep end from game one? Ask any united fan, as much as they think LVG is useless, the one positive is that he gives youth a chance and continues to play them.

People like to bang on about net spend this and net spend that so just have a look at Tottenham's gross and net spend since he has been in charge. He's had hardly anything to work with yet hasn't complained, built his squad on a budget and is doing pretty well.

Right this is the last time and twist it how you want. Klopp isn't under pressure in the league, he is saving his best players for the Europa and the club and fans would expect that. Actually playing a few youngsters when you have nothing to play for in the league brings you less pressure. In the semis let's see if Klopp plays the youngsters like you said under severe pressure. As a manager Klopp is under more pressure next year than this year, he will have pre season and can bring in his own players, the fans will expect more.

Regarding LVG if you can't work out the youngsters only played because Utds injury crises this year which was absolutely terrible, one of the worst I have seen then I give up. If you think LVG picked the youngsters over first team players then I give up.