I'm voting Mark Pulisic.

7 hours ago, Munkworth said:

I’d like to be the advocate for Avram Grant please. 
 

Also @Valerie would be petitioning for Cudicini before any former dutchy. 

Finally I get to use this one!

But Carlo has priority, obviously.

No I don’t think so , Tuchel had proven himself here and elsewhere , he had the desire to oversee a rebuild but was given no where near a fair chance. 

No

 

not yet 

With hindsight it probably was a hasty unthought out decision by Mr Bully Baseball. However at the time the form and results were just as dire as lately under GP. Personally think it’s the playing staff that are the problem but as we know it’s easier for owners to give the manager the old tic tac. Now he’s here best for Bully to give GP until the summer and hope the other behind the scenes appointments start working together to fix the squad starting in the January window.

I won't post about this topic again because I feel like I've said most of my own personal points, but there's one last part of this debate I'd like to discuss.

I don't understand the argument of form, it was literally the start of the season when he was sacked. The season is a marathon not a sprint, so what if we started slow, City have started slow and won the league before as have other teams. The opposite is also true a team starts well and then falls off. It's the epl anything can happen.

TT I think is still underrated by some fans, I think the fact so many can disregard his achievements blows my mind. He's gone now and we have to back Potter I get those fans, but the ones that try to be reductionist about the calibre of coach he is, that is something I don't understand.

The exact same ones saying this is why Pep or Klopp couldn't join us because we don't see out a project and we don't back the manager when times get tough, here's a prime example in TT and they don't think it's the same thing. Why back Potter, but not TT?

TT was the first manager to go to back to back ucl finals with different teams. I don't think people are giving him enough credit for that. That's insane like you'd have to be such a good coach to be able to do this, no way you can say it's the players, when he's the common denominator. It's like starting from scratch and he did it with us in 6 months even less time than he had with PSG.

The man won the ucl with a front 3 of Havertz, Werner and Mount. Who tf in world football could accomplish that? Don't get me wrong when played correctly they actually do compliment each other, but really that's not a world class front line it has no business winning a ucl.

In a 100 games we contested 6 finals. Why is it that being a cup team is so bad. Only one team can win the league why don't people get this. What honestly sounds better to you? Having no chance at the league and playing like a mid table team, trying to build whilst outside or at best just inside the top 6 hoping for a decent cup run. Or being inside the top 4/6 pretty much guaranteed come the end of the season and knowing you're likely to do well in the cups oh and guess what you can still be building towards the future. Because essentially that's Potter vs Tuchel.

At least with TT while you're building towards the future you're also attempting to be as competitive now as possible. Either way you're not really winning the league anytime soon at least with Tuchel you had a chance at silverware each season. 3 trophies in under 2 seasons is a good trophy ratio he was tailor made for this club literally knew the standards of the club and was intertwined with Chelsea DNA.

This is the final post I'll make on the matter I've resigned myself to back Potter until its quite literally untenable, but this decision by Boehly to remove a top performer in their field and gamble with a wildcard seems pretty questionable for a businessman we're told is good at what he does. If someone genuinely thinks Potter is more qualified for a long-term project for an elite club than Thomas Tuchel I can't help you, you're basically drinking Boehly's kool aid. 

Tuchels projects include rejuvenating Dortmund after Klopps burnout. Taking PSG the project that no coach has been able to succeed with, within 90 mins of their cherished trophy and they lost 1-0 to a Bayern side which despite how good they were that season could have easily lost that game with better finishing from PSG.

And finally taking a Chelsea side 9th (10th when we kicked off) when he joined to a double cup final a top 4 place and something a lot of fans selectively have forgotten twice denying Pep first the quadruple and then triple. He was also there trying to deny Klopp a season later. I'm sure someone will come out with Potter could potentially do all of this if given the backing, transfers, time etc.

Tuchel did all of this with a squad that wasn't his, in a position lower down than when Potter joined, with a team that hadn't won a big trophy for 2 seasons (if we count the Europa which the new signings hadn't been a part of). Meanwhile Potter inherits the champions of the world and former continental champions and rather than see an improvement we see further decline.

Again it's not Potter's fault I won't blame him for what Boehly has done. I will however blame Potter for results if we fail to make any improvements by the end of the season.

Edited November 13, 20223 yr by LongtimerLurker