Posted December 20, 200816 yr Why has this guy never been mentioned ? Doesn't his loan period end on 31 Dec.? If he comes back and is as good as Capello seems to think, then we can offload the two carthorses - Alex and Ivanovic.
December 20, 200816 yr I have been impressed by the lad and hope that he comes back to the Bridge as soon as possible. If he fufils his potential he could be the long term sucessor to John Terry at the back. I generally do believe that M. is capable.
December 20, 200816 yr Alex and Ivan are not carthorses by any means. But if its between losing Mancienne and keeping a player who probably doesnt want to be with us past the summer then lets offload Alex to a team who want to pay well for him. Ivanovic is the last person we should be losing right now. He is excellent
December 20, 200816 yr Why has this guy never been mentioned ? I think you'll find that he has! Mancienne's debut for Wolves Mancienne in full England squad
December 20, 200816 yr alex and ivanovch are far from been cart horses, they are good solid players mancienne is also good but needs 1st team regular experience which he's getting at wolves, hopefully he will come back the bridge and fight for a regular blue shirt
December 20, 200816 yr Alex and Ivanovic are indeed decent players, but if Alex wants to leave in January, then letting him go (we should get at least £8m for him, right?) and bringing Mancienne back seems like the most sensible option. The only thing that would prevent this would be if Mancienne wanted regular football week in, week out, and isn't content with being fourth choice centre back.
December 20, 200816 yr Mancienne is good up and coming pro who is now gaining valuable experience of club football. Watching him playing for Wolves the other week he is still a good way short of being a regular premiership player. Another 6 mths on loan will do him the world of good. Of course if Alex does leave in the window we would seriously have to consider recalling him ....though this could be a backward step in his development.
December 21, 200816 yr I think you'll find that he has!Mancienne's debut for Wolves Mancienne in full England squad Thanks ES, was going to say, Mancienne has been a hot topic of conversation on these boards for sometime now! I think Alex will go in either January or the summer, I then hope we can keep a hold of Ivan, and the Mancienne breaks into the first team where he is slowly introuced to first team football, a la JT
January 2, 200916 yr Mancienne has been recalled from his loan at Wolves - interesting. does this mean that either Alex or Ivanovic are on their way? LINK
January 2, 200916 yr My guess is he's being bought back for cover, but with Alex injured, JT suspended and Ricky just coming back to fitness, you never know. I think Southend is the perfect chance to give him, but I suspect we'll see JT and Invanovic/Ricky.
January 2, 200916 yr Scolari will field a young team in Saturday's FA Cup third round tie against League One side Southend at Stamford Bridge, but the Brazilian is adamant he is not disrespecting the competition. Centre-back Michael Mancienne, who was called up by England after a successful loan spell at Wolverhampton, is likely to feature, while Lee Sawyer and Jeffrey Bruma are also in the squad. yahoo
January 2, 200916 yr Mancienne has been recalled from his loan at Wolves - interesting. does this mean that either Alex or Ivanovic are on their way?LINK I'm starting to wonder the same Bluebeard. JT is available again and Ricky is now back from injury. Even if Alex has an injury at the moment we still have temporary cover in Ivanovic. However if we were planning to sell one of the 4 then we would want Mancienne back as our 4th defender for the rest of the season. So that leads me to think you are right. If Alex really wants to leave I think we will probably cash in on him although Ivanovic is possible too . Scolari knows he needs to sell if he wants to bring in new players. Bridge and Alex/Ivanovic could raise at least 20 million for new signings. Apparently Mancienne may start tomorrow now too according to BBC. I'm excited by that news and hope to see more of him this season. Lets not also forget that he is very effective at right back too so would be great cover for Boswinga.
January 2, 200916 yr I am very excited to see Mancienne in the royal blue and see a few other youth products as well. However, my joy will be crushed if they sell Ivanovic over Alex. Alex is good, but Ivan the Terrible is clearly a stud in the making. IMO he has been our best defender since Riccy went down, bar none, and the club would be mad to sell him for anything less than a king's ransom, so its better not to bother at all
January 2, 200916 yr Yeah, I agree but even though Scolari says there will be changes, he doesn't seem to give youngsters a chance, Di Santo only plays about 2 minutes a game, Stoch, only play about 5 minutes. But only time will tell...
January 3, 200916 yr IF we do let a few youngsters play, I think this might be a signal of good things to come. Keep an eye on one or two prospects...bleed them in with the experience that we have in the team, and give them a shot to try and prove themselves. Think Mancienne's recall is a sign that we may lose Alex right enough
January 3, 200916 yr Scolari seems to be giving hints to this defense for tonight's game: --A Cole------------------------------------------------------------Ivanovic-- ----------------------Mancienne-------------Carvalho------------------------ Or perhaps.. --Belletti------------------------------------------------------------Ferreira-- ----------------------Mancienne------------Ivanovic------------------------- I wouldn't mind either, though the first one is much more balanced than the second one.
January 3, 200916 yr I have a feeling Carvalho will start alongside Ivanovic in the centre and Mancienne will be on the bench.
January 3, 200916 yr I have a feeling Carvalho will start alongside Ivanovic in the centre and Mancienne will be on the bench. I read on the official site (but now can't find it) that Bosingwa has a slight injury and might not play. So maybe our defence would line up like this?: Ash - Riccy C - Mancienne - Ivanovic
January 3, 200916 yr More about the squad(from the official site) So...Ballack, Terry, Alex, Malouda are out. Belletti, Ferreira, Cudicini, Mancienne, Kalou and Drogba are in.
January 3, 200916 yr Really excited that Manc could start (some sources say he will). Great stuff...Chelsea actually bringing through players...who would have thunk it! :D
January 3, 200916 yr I read on the official site (but now can't find it) that Bosingwa has a slight injury and might not play. So maybe our defence would line up like this?:Ash - Riccy C - Mancienne - Ivanovic i`d actually expect to see ivanovic play central and mancienne right back.
January 3, 200916 yr Doesn't it say somewhere that Paulo should start? Hopefully he does to give Ash a much deserved rest!
