Posted December 27, 200816 yr Phil brown gives his teamtalk on the pitch. This kind of playing to the cameras usually ends in tears. His players will have lost a lot of respect for him today.
December 27, 200816 yr Phil brown gives his teamtalk on the pitch. This kind of playing to the cameras usually ends in tears. His players will have lost a lot of respect for him today. i thought exactly the same thing. and its not like hull have had a rubbish season so far. considering brown was praising the team spirit last week i cant see that doing it much bloody good.
December 27, 200816 yr For what its worth I agree with what he did. Will the players lose respect for him? Time will tell but chances are they won't want to be humiliated like that again in which case - job done. One things for sure, you would never have seen Avram do that after all he couldn't even give the team talk before extra time in a cup final. Edited December 27, 200816 yr by geezer
December 27, 200816 yr Nothing wrong with it, keeps the players out in the cold instead of being all snug up in the dressing rooms and not wanting to come back out for the second half. I like Phil Brown tbh.
December 27, 200816 yr Author Time will tell Indeed it will Geezer. Personally I don't think it's a good sign when managers play to the gallery like that but results will be the ultimate judge.
December 27, 200816 yr I was amazed at what he did, and, honestly, my amazement was positive. I don't know exactly why he did it, but I for one would have been proud to have been a part of that. Certainly a bold thing to do. I like Phil Brown.
December 27, 200816 yr They were already being humiliated in front of their fans on the pitch for 45 minutes, why not carry that through to halftime? When ever someone does anything new its considered attention seeking, I like Phil Brown, players need taking down a peg or two sometimes, depends how brave you are as a manger. You coud just be Avram Grant and take it I guess. EDIT: However, as said above, Hull have had a fantastic season so far, that was probably their only bad performance to date. We've had far more!! Edited December 27, 200816 yr by Gem
December 27, 200816 yr For what its worth I agree with what he did. Will the players lose respect for him? Time will tell but chances are they won't want to be humiliated like that again in which case - job done.One things for sure, you would never have seen Avram do that after all he couldn't even give the team talk before extra time in a cup final. on the flip side I doubt we'll see Phil Brown get a team to a CL final...maybe horses for courses Can you imagine if Grant had have attempted something like that? The crowd would have slaughtered him, it was never the Players fault when things went wrong it was his. I dont like what Phil done as he is basically to me showing the fans it was the players fault and not taking any blame himself, He trains the team and sets out the tactics and they were getting cut through time after time...a possibility some of it was down to him unyet he comes out of it as blameless and sits the boys in a naughty circle like eleven Willie Gallas's Not what I would look up to in a manager and smacks of attention seeking to me. Still we all see things different. Edited December 28, 200816 yr by Chippy
December 28, 200816 yr my original opinion going back a few years and even more so now,Brown is a total w**ker,was and always will be,if I was one of his players or staff for that little publicity stunt I would have told him to f**k off.What is he trying to prove.f**k all thats what.
December 28, 200816 yr I cant see what he'll achieve in the the long term by doing that , apart from getting people talking and getting headlines . They came out second half and were just as bad . Brown comes across as somebody who's loving the limelight and the more he gets , the better it is for his ego . Unless he gives a different team talk on the pitch than in the dressing room, i fail to understand the reason behind it . f**kin idiot.
December 28, 200816 yr well, to be honest, I hadnt thought of the attention seeking end of what he did to his team, mostly because his explanation after the game was pretty low key: Basically, he said they owed the fans better and he wanted them to sit and look at the traveling support while he reamed them out. What a humiliating experience that mustve been, though. They looked like school children sitting around him like that. I dunno about Phil Brown. Im not ready to anoint him a managerial genius until Hull survive the inevitable sophomore slump in the Prem
January 1, 200916 yr As far as I could tell, the players didn´t even get a nice warm cuppa. Poor lads.
January 2, 200916 yr I thought the fella was spot on to be honest. It was boxing day and fans have made their holiday plans around this fixture, and all for their side not to bother turning up. He saw some players who didn't fancy it and pointed it out to them in front of the people who pay their wages!!!! The supporters, the one's who left their familys at home and paid to go to the game! He could have haulled them off and sent them out early but it wouldn't have had the same effect. They did eventually go into the dressing room but I doubt he'd have got the same message across from down the tunnel. He may have a few players moaning, but if they don't want to play for you, get rid of 'em, just don't turn up and not 'be up for it.' Hull have got where they are this season by the tremendous team spirit Brown has installed, and if you're not pulling your weight, you don't deserve to wear the shirt - a lesson a few Chelsea players could take note from this season! I'm not sure what effect it'll have on their general placement this season, because I think they have been punching above their weight for some time, but we're at the halfway stage and they don't look the relegation fodder most of us presumed, do they?! I think Hull and Brown have been a refreshing reminder of how well a club can do, on a limited budget, if they all pull in the right direction, and they're all together. When they're not, it's upto the manager to give them a kick up the backside, a few more high profile managers could take note, including our manager with Deco. Well done Phil Brown!
January 2, 200916 yr The thing is he has in some peoples eyes totally exhonorated himself from any blame with that little showpiece, If he had have dealt with them in the usual manner instead of people saying Hull got found wanting at the weekend and Phil Brown let them know all about it, people would have been saying "Phil Brown and Hull got found wanting" and thats what really happened in my view. If it happened here last year or this the manager would be slated by the fans as most would believe the 4 goals were down to him. I think the win as a team lose as a team thing is something he needs to learn and he was likely as much at fault as the players.
January 15, 200916 yr Heard him and Kinnear were sent into the stands after they got into it. I'd take Kinnear in that matchup. His rants are far more entertaining.
January 15, 200916 yr Phil was at it again tonight, like a poor man's Jose. And Joe was at it again, like a poor man's Filipe
January 15, 200916 yr Author And Joe was at it again, like a poor man's Filipe About 20 years ago during one of the international tournaments Joe was on a live teatime discussion programme on Irish TV. He told a story about Vinnie Jones to which the punchline was "And Vinnie said if you do that again I'll rip your 'ead off and sh*t in the 'ole" Cue stunned silence in the studio. Joe never appeared on Irish TV again.
March 1, 200916 yr Author Phil was unhappy when Giovanni played to the gallery today when he was substituted. You should be happy Phil. At least he's learning something from you.
March 2, 200916 yr Phil was unhappy when Giovanni played to the gallery today when he was substituted.You should be happy Phil. At least he's learning something from you. Giovanni is a decent player on form, but he hasn't been on form for a while, although he did show some decent touches against us a few weeks ago.
