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To be honest, I'm not really disagreeing with you. He might well turn out to be very good, but at the moment he is a liability and worse than playing with 10 men. Telling me (with or without pictures and charts) how great he was in Germany is of absolutely no relevance at all. We have a long, long list of players who were supposedly "great" at their previous clubs and turned to w**k when they arrived with us. Until I see some actual playing ability from Havertz, I'll consider him another Torres or Sheva, but without the long history of actually BEING great..

Why is that? Are you only able to be insufferable about one of your man-crushes at a time?

Now here's a quandary to ponder. What club's shirt will he be w**king into if both Jorginho AND Havertz get binned off to different clubs?

I've just had Hermes collect some cows' arses and a box of ukeleles

Without getting too political, it comes about because the racists and bigots have become emboldened by the right-wing xenophobia and bigotry of the likes of Farage, Trump, Johnson, Gove at al. Supported by the majority of the british press, these racists have promoted a non-stop tirade of anti-foreigner propaganda and that has made all of the racists feel able to be more open Don't get me wrong, there has always been a racist element in british society, it's now become more acceptable to show it in public. Previously, these people mostly expressed their views with friends and like-minded bigots, but now they see their own government and newpapers expressing the same or worse views and they think it's OK for them to do it. It's why we are in this brexit sh*tshow, bigots voted to get rid of brown people.

You're only as good as your latest results and I call it hypocrisy to clamour for the sacking of our manager after a few poor results and yet defend a rival manager for what is on the face of it a worse set of results, regardless of what they might have done last season. The context of past history well suits the dippers, that's all they have, but it sits ill with me in a Chelsea forum.

Don't be a childish prick. You are better than that. Lampard and Klopp have both led their teams into a mid-season slump. What they did in a previous life has no relevance to that, same as Havertz being amazing in the Aachen under-11's Sunday league has no bearing on him playing like a twonk in a Chelsea shirt, or Werner's record-breaking scoring record in Germany having any relevance to him not being able to connect with the ball in an empty penalty area last match.

https://www.besoccer.com/new/liverpool-no-pl-goals-in-2021-and-438-minutes-without-scoring-946748 A worse crisis than us, and yet our fans WERE batsh*t insane and wanted rid of Lampard.

Context is irrelevant when it comes to racist abuse, and the intent of a racist is always racist. Doesn't need any interpretation..

That aged well 🙂 Perhaps Klopp's job is under threat from the social meeja warriors now.

I wonder how many "fans" are on the Dippers forums now demanding a change of manager, given they are in a slump similar to ours.

How did we manage to miss out on the genius that is Eddie Howe when he was available when so many top experts in here were saying he was the man to take us forward into the glory days of successive promotions from the 3rd division up to the 1st and back again.

That first bit you can't be serious. Most of those matches weren't even the worst this season. And I know you have an agenda, but to morph an Arsenal side with 2 or 3 first team players missing into an "Arsenal C team" is just disrespectful to our team. But you were one of the most vociferous in here about getting rid of the manager.

And you know these two things to be fact exactly how? Are you really an insider, one of the club's higher echelon staff? Board member, perhaps? Senior coaching staff? I don't think so. I think you are just making up bollocks to suit your very limited agenda, and it'[s getting a bit boring now. You and the other f**kwits got what you wanted, got the manager sacked and so now you gotta let it go. You're sounding a bit like all those brexit bigots who "won" their great victory and now keep on fighting the same xenophobic arguments over and over again, refusing to own the debacle that it is.

No. and stop being silly.

Ok, that's your view. I think you're wrong, but, anyway, picking up a losing streak last season as an exemplar isn't really correct.

I don't think last season comes into it, that was such a weird situation with the transfer ban and all the other factors that have been rehearsed in here ad nauseam. But, as soon as we hit a minor blip this season the knives were out, people in here and in the press started whining and eventually that pressure affected the board.

Not what I was responding to, though.

Tell that to Gianfranco, Desailly, Gullit, Ballack and many, many more.

Actually, she is slack. But fair, obviously.

Because he came round to the side of light and truth and obviously accepted I was correct 🙂

No, they aren't. X-Boxes, Harry Potter and colouring-in books are solely for children.

I do love how these google experts know all about what player X wanted and what manager Y would do if he could go back in time and what that manager's motivations and targets are/were. You and me are know-nothings, mate, and there are graphics to prove it.

I'm not convinced because he seems unable to trap or control a football or pass to a team mate. Or not lose the ball 2 yards outside our own penalty area costing us goals against.

I don't care what he did in Germany, he is currently a liability in a Chelsea shirt and you claiming he is some sort of footballing giant just makes you look stupid when everyone watching the matches can see the opposite. Convince me he didn't misplace passes, pass straight off the pitch and hide from the ball last night. I'm sure google can help you with that. There must be stats and graphs. I only know what I saw with my own eyes.