Blue_Boy Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...e.html?ITO=1490 What do you think? For me he would be a fantasic signing as he can play all across midfield apart from DM. He would be perfect for left wing to replace Malouda (we should sell him for sure) but he would not come as cheap as 15M i think he would cost around to 25M or more. I just hope Roman is ready to spend this summer. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think AShley Young is excactly the player we should be targetting (or at least one of a few) but I agree that we would never get him for £15m. Bring in one winger, get Joe COle back to fitness, get rid of Malouda and Quaresma and promote Stoch. Actually that would only leave us with 2 orthodox wingers which wouldn't provide enough cover (I still don't see Joe as an orthodox winger). Of course all depends on what happens next season in terms of managers and formations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gem Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I think AShley Young is excactly the player we should be targetting (or at least one of a few) but I agree that we would never get him for £15m. Yep, they forgot to add the £10m standard English tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Sun Tzu Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Although I am all for signing good young British players and I rate Young pretty highly I am not convinced that he is the world class winger that so sorely need. Would he step up to the challenge? Or would we have another SWP situation on our hands? I think we need a winger that has proved himself. That is already the finished article. That man is Ribery. I suppose since we supposed to be spending £100m in the summer (ⓒ every tabloid) why not get both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I see both Sturridge and Young as potentially great signings. Both young, hungry for football. Young is the perfect replacement for Malouda. But crux though. If we do get Sturridge, where does that leave Di Santo? I think AShley Young is excactly the player we should be targetting (or at least one of a few) but I agree that we would never get him for £15m.Bring in one winger, get Joe COle back to fitness, get rid of Malouda and Quaresma and promote Stoch. Actually that would only leave us with 2 orthodox wingers which wouldn't provide enough cover (I still don't see Joe as an orthodox winger). Of course all depends on what happens next season in terms of managers and formations. Get rid of Malouda and Quaresma? Malouda, yes yes yes, Quaresma? I can't see your thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Also, if that 6+5 rule came in, he'd be another English name down. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't rate Ashley Young at all, he has had a couple of good games and that's about it. He's been made to look average by many defenders in the league and the Uefa Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue_Boy Posted March 29, 2009 Author Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't rate Ashley Young at all, he has had a couple of good games and that's about it. He's been made to look average by many defenders in the league and the Uefa Cup. He played great in the last game against us and crosses good too. We should try and sign either him or david silva for the left wing, two great players but neither would come on cheap ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loz Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Get rid of Malouda and Quaresma? Malouda, yes yes yes, Quaresma? I can't see your thinking. My thinking, and I suspect I am alone in this, is that I have seen nothing from Quaresma to suggest he is worth forking out the best part of £15m on. I do acccept he has not had huge opportunity to prove himself but when he has played what I see as being very average performances have been disguised by the fact he puts in one good cross every 45 minutes. The total sum of his contribution when he has played has been pretty minimal. Clearly Ribery is the man most peple would want but if he moves it is going to be for massive money and I am not sure we are going to fork out that much on one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PloKoon13 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 I don't rate Ashley Young at all, he has had a couple of good games and that's about it. He's been made to look average by many defenders in the league and the Uefa Cup. You could say the same about Ibrahimovic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abramovich Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Young is a talented player but it remains to be seen whether he's capable of taking his game to a higher level. SWP, for one, looked a great prospect at City and and is still their best player on form now, but looked out of his depth with us. Plus, like all English players, he'll cost a fortune. If I we are willing to overpay, I'd rather go for world class quality like Ribery or Silva. In fact, the kind of money Villa will ask for Young(20 million +) I'd imagine will be quite comparable to Silva's fee. I know who I'd rather have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g3.7 Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 have been on the ashley young bandwagon for a while- can play left or right, can take a decent set peice, capable of scoring goals, and best of all, he's a winger who can actually cross! can't see it happening, though when villa fail to make the CL maybe he will become unsettled. unfortunately lerner and villa don't need the money, and if they were capable of refusing £15m for gareth barry, despite him being unhappy, older than young and with less years left on his contract, the amount of cash that would need to prise young away would be significant. I think even more than £25m. (having said all that his form hasn't been that great since the new year, but the previous 18 months have done enough for his reputation) as for quaresma, I think he'd be a good squad player for us long term, but not for the kind of cash he'd cost. and certainly not when it appears bayern and preparing to sell ribery this summer. p.s. silva is not a winger. just ask just. very good footballer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWestwayWonder Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 If we can add a winger of Young's ilk (i.e. pacey, quick, incisive) but not necessarily him, to the current crop of Cole, Quaresma (hopefully), and Stoch I think we will finally have the kind of variety on the outside that will allow us to play wingers appropriate to unlock the opposition. Whether that be just lashing balls into the box, having a go at their fullbacks, or just trying to run their defense ragged. I would lose it if we got Ribery, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nofizzleforshizzle Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 (edited) You could say the same about Ibrahimovic... thats cause ibrahimovic, like young is just very average. we wingers comparable to messi and ronaldo. The last thing we want to do is sign a bunch of mediocre players and then be in the same position at the end of next season Edited March 29, 2009 by nofizzleforshizzle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 My thinking, and I suspect I am alone in this, is that I have seen nothing from Quaresma to suggest he is worth forking out the best part of £15m on. I do acccept he has not had huge opportunity to prove himself but when he has played what I see as being very average performances have been disguised by the fact he puts in one good cross every 45 minutes. The total sum of his contribution when he has played has been pretty minimal. Clearly Ribery is the man most peple would want but if he moves it is going to be for massive money and I am not sure we are going to fork out that much on one player. I can see your thinking now. And that's a pretty decisive arguement that I haven't got a counter to. We'll just have to wait and see if he's given the chance of not. Ribery - he's my favourite player in the world atm. He's just amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geezer Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 p.s. silva is not a winger. Nor is Malouda, in fact Malouda isn't even a footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruh Buh Juh Posted March 29, 2009 Share Posted March 29, 2009 Nor is Malouda, in fact Malouda isn't even a footballer :D I laughed. And I would say Silva is a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evissy Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 There was a story somewhere that Malouda is happy to stay with Chelsea(along with Drogs)... okay so much with bad news. I would keep Quaresma if we are able to have him on loan next season as well. Depends on his pricetag should be buy him. He's been good everytime he's come on except maybe Spuds game. Ashley Young is relatively unknown player to me. All I know he is pacy and as his name indicates, young. As he is an English player his pricetag will be ridiculous but for Premier league we need more English players. We miss Joey. Is Young a regular starter for England? I think Bosingwa would do very well in the wing if he didn't have to back track so much. I would try this season putting Jose on the wing with Paolo or Ivanovic as fullback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Complete side note, but does anyone else think that letting the Toilet Seat Thief go was a big mistake? We have spent a LOT of money finding another attacking right back (Bosingwa + Beletti = about £22 million) and yet every week I see Glen putting in decent performances for Pompey, and showing some real attacking flair. He will never been the world's best defender, but neither is Bosingwa, and for games where all out attack is needed (ie most home games when the opposition are content for a draw) he would have been a great option. Now I will caveat this with saying that I am happy enough with Bosingwa, I guess, but given how much more he cost, I'm not sure we've really been that smart about this. Granted, our managerial circus has meant that inevitably players would be let go who didn't fit the 'then' system, but who would fit the 'now' one, so I suppose it's just one of the crosses we have to bear for our instability, but it just seems a shame really. Side note over. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeyMS Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) I don't rate Ashley Young at all, he has had a couple of good games and that's about it. He's been made to look average by many defenders in the league and the Uefa Cup. I`ve seen him on few occasions in EPL and Uefa Cup. He appeared to me as a very live player, explosive I can say with some flair undoubtably. Maybe some defenders made him look average, but from what I`ve seen the most threat has came exactly from his flank. And I agree with G4, he has the quality, which winger needs in England very much, - crossing. His crossing is really amazing. But if Gem is right, and standard tax for English players is J10 mln than, for me, it`s better to pay J15-18 for Zhirkov. No, Lozzy, you`re not alone in your opinion about Quaresma. I also think his contribution is very questionable, having a lot if trickery and technique he has nothing to do with it, but to show it to journos. His hair-cut is adding his abilities perfectly. (In this department he`s very similar to Robin Van Persie for me). Even in Porto he wasn`t the key player, the team could rely on. L.Lopez and l.Gonzalez did the job. I wonder what for JM needs him? Edited March 30, 2009 by sergeyMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolo_88 Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think Quaresma is masivly under rated ATM. You dont become a bad player overnight and it werent but a few years ago that he terrorised us in the Champions League dont forget. As for Ashley Young i feel he is exacly what we need atm, and as for SWP comparison, Young is an out and out winger and quality at that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zola's Love Child Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 I think Quaresma is masivly under rated ATM. You dont become a bad player overnight and it werent but a few years ago that he terrorised us in the Champions League dont forget. As for Ashley Young i feel he is exacly what we need atm, and as for SWP comparison, Young is an out and out winger and quality at that!! Cannot agree with you on Ashley Young. Since his good run of form earlier this season he has drifted into obscurity in games, become a moaning little so and so, and goes down easier than a 20 year old Emile Heskey. I don't think he can cut it in the big time games, or competitions, unless perhaps, he is wrapped in cotton wool, cuddled and pampered by a manager, and unless he produces like Ronaldo did last year, that is not what I want to be seeing playing for us next year. Agree on Quaresma, he is under rated, especially in terms of the chances he has been given, although I would like to point out that there are some awful teams defensively in the Champions League, even teams like Real Madrid have been completely found out, with a reputable defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charierre Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Before we entertain the thoughts on who we should or shouldn't sign the most crucial signing of all has to take place, Who will be the coach in charge next season? This really needs to be done, dusted and put to bed by the end of this one. No player worth his salt will seriously consider us until this sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizeH Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 Oh, Ashley Young... the one player who over two games has made Bosingwa look like a top notch defender. No thanks. Quaresma is better, more available, and would be a lot cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizeH Posted March 30, 2009 Share Posted March 30, 2009 (edited) Also, anyone who is rating Quaresma on his contribution to Chelsea are clearly mad - he's played only a handful of games, has never been given a full 90 minutes, or even a small run to help him find his way into the team. He's quick, he's skilful, he's got great vision, and can put in an awesome cross and score some spectacular goals when he spots an opportunity to cut inside. Edit: Oh, and he's essentially two footed too! Edited March 30, 2009 by blizeH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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