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I am not sure what to think about this. On one hand I am glad to hear that a large club in Europe are paying attention to this young player, so it's easy to see that we're not the only ones who sing his praises.

However, is he good enough to make it onto our bench already? I think he is!

Scott

Sorry, posted before entering comments.

I am not sure what to think about this. On one hand I am glad to hear that a large club in Europe are paying attention to this young player, so it's easy to see that we're not the only ones who sing his praises.

However, is he good enough to make it onto our bench already? I think he is!

Scott

Oh, I'm glad they they want to take him on loan. Good praise for the lad. Doesn't mean we shouldn't tell them to do one though. A two year loan deal for a lad his age, with a lot of upside, coming off a serious injury is stupid.

If we part ways with more players than we take in during the summer Kakuta might get to our bench. Reality is that whoever coach we hire he will use the more experienced players. That is the way with Chelsea. There is so much pressure on the coach that they usually decide to go with the safer choice...



Isn't he the kind of player they'd want to sign on at the end of it though?

If we do that and he becomes Greece's star player, I'll never forgive the club...

He's going nowhere with a broken ankle

It's upto whoever is our manager next year who they want to keep and loan out, although I'd let him recover from injury and get him fit to see if he's useful to us, prior to agreeing any loan deal.

that's an odd one... I wouldn't want him to get into our side "by default", because I expect us to buy players to improve us, but I do think (like many), he could have an excellent future with us. greece... for 2 years?

if he's going on loan anywhere I'd want it to be england- he needs to get used to english football at a competitive level and english crowds etc... I don't think he needs to go abroad and learn a new language, I don't see much benefit for him to go abroad rather than to the championship.

that's an odd one... I wouldn't want him to get into our side "by default", because I expect us to buy players to improve us, but I do think (like many), he could have an excellent future with us. greece... for 2 years?

if he's going on loan anywhere I'd want it to be england- he needs to get used to english football at a competitive level and english crowds etc... I don't think he needs to go abroad and learn a new language, I don't see much benefit for him to go abroad rather than to the championship.

On the flip side, though, Greek football is much more competitive than English second division one. They certainly have a bunch of quality players and some quality teams. Furthermore, some European pedigree might help him mature faster.



the championship is hugely competitive... exposure to european competition would be the only advantage, but that's it.

Certainly a league in which the two top teams are regulars in the CL is a marginally better place to mature than the Championship ?



Kakuta has been the shining light in the academy over the last 18 months, I cant see us loaning him to anyone.

Nonetheless better.

across the entire league? very debatable. and certainly not as competitive either. we might as well loan kakuta out in italy or spain to extend your argument... it doesn't make sense though, for a young foreign player to gain experience in another country. he needs to learn what competitive english football is about, surely?

across the entire league? very debatable. and certainly not as competitive either. we might as well loan kakuta out in italy or spain to extend your argument... it doesn't make sense though, for a young foreign player to gain experience in another country. he needs to learn what competitive english football is about, surely?

Yes, quite possibly across the entire league. Two or three or four consistently decent teams will not come out of a poor league and I say that from personal experience. I also find it hard to believe that such a league isn't more competitive than the Championship. (And by "competitive" I mean possessing more quality. If by competitiveness you mean more than 2 or three teams can challenge for the top places, I agree. But by the same token, no first division football league is competitive.)

In the end, the argument comes down to whether you value the possible experience of the Greek league, which is better in terms of football, over the possbile experience in the Championship, which is better in terms of cultural compatibility to his future career. I hold the former view, but I can understand why you would support the latter.

Mind you, if we were to hold him AND use him in the next season, I would be all for that. That, however, is unlikely to happen.

across the entire league? very debatable. and certainly not as competitive either. we might as well loan kakuta out in italy or spain to extend your argument... it doesn't make sense though, for a young foreign player to gain experience in another country. he needs to learn what competitive english football is about, surely?

but is it not also a good idea for him to learn other ways of playing football, ways that are totally different to the way hes being taught now? if he learns many ways of playing the game then it can only be to his and our advantage.



How about sending him back to France? I'm sure there'll be a few clubs there willing to take him on loan and there won't be any culture/language problems for the youngster to overcome.

but is it not also a good idea for him to learn other ways of playing football, ways that are totally different to the way hes being taught now? if he learns many ways of playing the game then it can only be to his and our advantage.

he's a french player. the majority of his development was in france. if he were an english player then sending him abroad is a good idea. as he isn't, keeping him local makes more sense.

across the entire league? very debatable. and certainly not as competitive either. we might as well loan kakuta out in italy or spain to extend your argument... it doesn't make sense though, for a young foreign player to gain experience in another country. he needs to learn what competitive english football is about, surely?

I agree , I doubt very much the Greek top League matches up to the Championship. Top couple of teams will be decent but the 'they play in the champions league' argument doesnt wash. Celtic and Rangers play in the Champions League and i think they would struggle to get out of the Championship. How many wins in Champions League have Greek teams had in the past 5 years excatly anyway ?

The Championship is one of the most competitive leagues in Europe and sending Katuka to a local club with decent management and reputation for playing young kids such a Watford or Palace would benefit him so much more than a move to Greece, in fact its not even debatable.

The whole story is bollocks anyway, surely.

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How many different types of football are there?

How about a 2 year loan at the San Francisco 49ers?

your not being serious are you? theres many different ways to play football. just compare the prem to la liga and seria a. each is totally different in build up, pace, power, skill level etc...

The whole story is bollocks anyway, surely.

That's certainly my thought.

This lad is highly thought of with a fair bit of expectation and he's just had a bad injury. We're hardly lightly to say "right, we're sending you off to Greece - see you in two years"!!

We need him back 100% fit and playing in the reserves for a good time before we even consider if a loan move would benefit the player and CFC. And then it should be to a Championship side without any long term commitment.

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