6 hours ago, bluehaze said:

Beasant saving a penalty! He was underrated Bluehaze! 😁

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2 hours ago, chi blue said:

Beasant saving a penalty! He was underrated Bluehaze! 😁

To me it showed what a travesty it was getting relegated the gulf between us and clubs like Walsall was huge we could have had double figures that day.  I hated that season to be honest I thought I'd left going to places like Walsall behind in 1984. The hangover from the Boro game lasted until we beat Leeds 2-0 and then it was pretty much a cakewalk City away was a good day and that was it.

7 hours ago, bluehaze said:

To me it showed what a travesty it was getting relegated the gulf between us and clubs like Walsall was huge we could have had double figures that day.  I hated that season to be honest I thought I'd left going to places like Walsall behind in 1984. The hangover from the Boro game lasted until we beat Leeds 2-0 and then it was pretty much a cakewalk City away was a good day and that was it.

That was the early days of supporting for me and I was amazed as the season progressed after beating City and Leeds that at times though we did not play well we still normally won.

7 hours ago, Scott said:

That’s some trophy, The Glasgow Charity Cup!

 

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23 hours ago, bluehaze said:

To me it showed what a travesty it was getting relegated the gulf between us and clubs like Walsall was huge we could have had double figures that day.  I hated that season to be honest I thought I'd left going to places like Walsall behind in 1984. The hangover from the Boro game lasted until we beat Leeds 2-0 and then it was pretty much a cakewalk City away was a good day and that was it.

After the years of being totally sh*t through my childhood, 1984 seemed we had arrived, to be relegated in 1988 it just seemed what the f**k has happened, the 88/89 promotion was never the same as the earlier one, one thing I will say is, has a better team ever been relegated! 

3 hours ago, erskblue said:

 

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Is that at Ewood Park?  One of my least favourite grounds, got done over on a bus after the match in the early 70s.

Edited February 18, 20215 yr by charierre

5 hours ago, chi blue said:

After the years of being totally sh*t through my childhood, 1984 seemed we had arrived, to be relegated in 1988 it just seemed what the f**k has happened, the 88/89 promotion was never the same as the earlier one, one thing I will say is, has a better team ever been relegated! 

John hollins and Ernie Walley were the problem. There were  issues with Spackman and Speedie which led to them leaving.  Micky T already gone then Pat going the season we went down. After 85/86 we didn’t bring in the right players to keep us up. We also had poor fullbacks for the top division.

2 hours ago, Richard P said:

John hollins and Ernie Walley were the problem. There were  issues with Spackman and Speedie which led to them leaving.  Micky T already gone then Pat going the season we went down. After 85/86 we didn’t bring in the right players to keep us up. We also had poor fullbacks for the top division.

Don't think Clarke, Dorigo and Clive Wilson were poor although Rougvie, Millar, Wood, Dublin, Hall definitely were.

I was just looking at the 86-87 season our crowds were really shocking but we weren't alone 33,000 against MU , 28,000 against Spurs, 32,000 against Arsenal, 17,000 against Villa, 10.000 against Leicester, 25,000 against Liverpool, 19,000 against City, 21,000 against Newcastle considering we brought good numbers to these games seems crowds were massively down everywhere I didn't realise how much.

23 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

Don't think Clarke, Dorigo and Clive Wilson were poor although Rougvie, Millar, Wood, Dublin, Hall definitely were.

Agree with you about Clarke and Dorigo but unfortunately they came too late. If we had kept who knows!!

6 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

I was just looking at the 86-87 season our crowds were really shocking but we weren't alone 33,000 against MU , 28,000 against Spurs, 32,000 against Arsenal, 17,000 against Villa, 10.000 against Leicester, 25,000 against Liverpool, 19,000 against City, 21,000 against Newcastle considering we brought good numbers to these games seems crowds were massively down everywhere I didn't realise how much.

Apparently Hooliganism raves and smiley faced tablets were to blame!!

47 minutes ago, Richard P said:

Apparently Hooliganism raves and smiley faced tablets were to blame!!

That wasn't till 88.

15 minutes ago, bluehaze said:

That wasn't till 88.

Must of been a general feeling in the country towards football. Money wasn’t the issue as it wasn’t expensive to go at the time

19 minutes ago, Richard P said:

Must of been a general feeling in the country towards football. Money wasn’t the issue as it wasn’t expensive to go at the time

It was a combination of things Heysel, Bradford fire, hooliganism a kid got killed at Birmingham - Leeds,  grounds weren't exactly family friendly and it didn't have the swagger and panache of the 60's and 70's. 

2 hours ago, bluehaze said:

I was just looking at the 86-87 season our crowds were really shocking but we weren't alone 33,000 against MU , 28,000 against Spurs, 32,000 against Arsenal, 17,000 against Villa, 10.000 against Leicester, 25,000 against Liverpool, 19,000 against City, 21,000 against Newcastle considering we brought good numbers to these games seems crowds were massively down everywhere I didn't realise how much.

Think it was the aftermath of the Bradford/Heysel/Bham disasters in 85 add trouble at our Sunderland game & Millwall at Luton the same season, gates dropped then & carried on the following season for most clubs.  Near the end of the season in 86 likes of Spurs at their peak got 8/9/10,000 at a few home games only two years after winning the Uefa cup.

12 hours ago, charierre said:

Is that at Ewood Park?  One of my least favourite grounds, got done over on a bus after the match in the early 70s.

Yeah correct it’s Elwood Park.

23 minutes ago, Carshalton Blue said:

Think it was the aftermath of the Bradford/Heysel/Bham disasters in 85 add trouble at our Sunderland game & Millwall at Luton the same season, gates dropped then & carried on the following season for most clubs.  Near the end of the season in 86 likes of Spurs at their peak got 8/9/10,000 at a few home games only two years after winning the Uefa cup.

Yes Luton Millwall the old bill getting run across the pitch was shocking for non football fans and the catalyst for Thatcher's operation own goal.

1 hour ago, bluehaze said:

It was a combination of things Heysel, Bradford fire, hooliganism a kid got killed at Birmingham - Leeds,  grounds weren't exactly family friendly and it didn't have the swagger and panache of the 60's and 70's. 

Crowds started to get bigger again and Football in General became more fashionable due to Italia 90 I believe, then with new family friendly grounds and euro 96 and Sky and premier league, football became for the masses, football shirt wearing men who 10 years before would call it soccer, and normally went to Rugby and the theatre started turning up, thankfully that has died down now, don’t see many replica shirts at the  Bridge these days, The Emirates seems to be the main place the Rugby/theatre crowd go.

13 minutes ago, chi blue said:

Crowds started to get bigger again and Football in General became more fashionable due to Italia 90 I believe, then with new family friendly grounds and euro 96 and Sky and premier league, football became for the masses, football shirt wearing men who 10 years before would call it soccer, and normally went to Rugby and the theatre started turning up, thankfully that has died down now, don’t see many replica shirts at the  Bridge these days, The Emirates seems to be the main place the Rugby/theatre crowd go.

Arsenal had more new fans then anyone in the 90's. Football started getting popular and I'm sure these geezers in their 30's felt left out of conversations at the pub and at work so they had to start supporting a team and they chose Arsenal.

 

Edited February 18, 20215 yr by bluehaze

38 minutes ago, erskblue said:

Yeah correct it’s Elwood Park.

Elwood Park sounds like an American Football ground . Me and a mate where going to go to Blackburn not sure of the year had a look at the times of the trains because of engineering works we wouldn't have made kick off and a train leaving at half eight got in later then the one leaving at half ten.

13 hours ago, chi blue said:

Crowds started to get bigger again and Football in General became more fashionable due to Italia 90 I believe, then with new family friendly grounds and euro 96 and Sky and premier league, football became for the masses, football shirt wearing men who 10 years before would call it soccer, and normally went to Rugby and the theatre started turning up, thankfully that has died down now, don’t see many replica shirts at the  Bridge these days, The Emirates seems to be the main place the Rugby/theatre crowd go.

Basically football started to lose its soul. By 2002 I'd had enough and haven't been since. Mind you it's a bit difficult now as it's an 8000 mile round trip for me!