Great night tonight.

One interesting thing was to watch JT after he came off. At one point, he was the strongest voice on the sideline, directing the players on the field (I think he was trying to get Luiz to go up to midfield after his injury).

Anyway, it was the right call, and it was almost like he was in charge rather than Roberto (who I really like and respect).

But I could not imagine JT doing that when standing beside Jose.

We had success under Jose, and maybe that's the way to go in the future.

But another model could be, in essence, a player-managed team, where the key senior players have a lot of say in what goes on in terms of selection, formation, and tactics.

I work with a lot of different businesses and the trend is towards more team-dertermined decisions, as opposed to the top-down edicts.

Maybe that's the way to go in the future for the team.

The advantage is that the core of the team buys in to what is happening, because they have had a big say in it. The downside might be things like a lack of discipline, or junior players feeling unsure who's in charge.

Probably the best thing is to have a brilliant manager who is a leader and who is iron-firm (Fergie even though I loath MU). But if you can't find such a person, then maybe you're better off with a manger who let's the key players have a big say?

Hmmm...

I could see JT getting into coaching when he is done, but I don't think it is a good idea at the club while he or anyone else, is till playing

I could see JT getting into coaching when he is done, but I don't think it is a good idea at the club while he or anyone else, is till playing

Yeah, I think you're right.

It is hard to think of a very successful team that did not have a "dominant" manager.

Maybe the point is that a great team can never be based on a democratic model.

Everyone in work is saying Terry is a disgrace for acting like the manager on the sidelines, and they hasd the usual pop at drogba.

Ah well :)

I think if you look in most industries it can be useful for everyone to have a say, not just management, and of course last night it seemed JT was certainly louder than others... I've heard the same comments as Zola but frankly, as long as he's not undermining the manager I couldn't care less if we perform like that.

Saying that, this thread is pretty disrespectful for Robbie D who clearly set out the team well last night, got them well prepared and motivated. Yes, it doesn't hurt for JT, or anyone else for that matter to chip in and try to help out, but we shouldn't underestimate Robbie's impact either.

What JT (and others) showed last night is that they are right beside the Robbie!

Robbie has got all of the senior players onside in a very short period of time, which goes to show that you don't have to be the next big thing to understand the basics of man management!

Everyone in work is saying Terry is a disgrace for acting like the manager on the sidelines, and they hasd the usual pop at drogba.

Ah well :)

any of them still in the champs league?

In the short term sure, anything can work.

In the long term, the players are biased. John Terry, bless his soul, would always put himself on the park, even if he had only one leg, and you wouldn't want it any other way. But you need a strong manager, ultimately, to choose the tactics and the side.

I'm just hoping people here are finally realizing that while a good manager can help make a side better than the sum of its parts, a bad one is worse than none at all and that AVB was not a good manager for Chelsea. He might go on and be one at another club, but he wasn't here.

Also a strong manager, is a manager who chooses his backroom staff, chooses who comes and goes and isn't interfered with from above. hint hint Abramovich.

Edited March 15, 201214 yr by Guest

any of them still in the champs league?

One of them is a very bitter West Ham fan

One of them is a very bitter West Ham fan

Is there any other kind of west ham fan?

Everyone in work is saying Terry is a disgrace for acting like the manager on the sidelines, and they hasd the usual pop at drogba. Ah well :)

f**k em Zola, theyre just mad because we defied the odds. One glance at the press today and they are all lining up to give us credit. That's enough for me.

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,12088_7598641,00.html

I think he speaks a lot of sense - JT has many qualities that would make him the perfect manager for us one day, and this article written by Sam Tillen goes a long way to confirm that - http://pastebin.com/Ucshrii9

But for now I'm very happy with Robbie. I know it's early days, but we're getting good results, playing well and I have an optimistic outlook for the remainder of the season at least.Lots of pe

Lots of people were talking about JT's involvement on the touchline yesterday as if it was a bad thing but personally I don't see that, sure other teams may mock us, but it showed that he spotted a potential problem and along with Robbie D made sure a solution was clearly communicated on the pitch, to be honest I'd have been annoyed if he spotted it and didn't get involved in the way he did.

Captain, Leader, Legend. Manager?

Everyone in work is saying Terry is a disgrace for acting like the manager on the sidelines, and they hasd the usual pop at drogba.

Ah well :)

...And we're moving on while they're clubs aren't... Must be terrible to hate and suffer from jealousy...

But another model could be, in essence, a player-managed team, where the key senior players have a lot of say in what goes on in terms of selection, formation, and tactics.

That's what we have right now, isn't it?

http://www.skysports.com/opinion/story/0,,15134_7598641,00.html

Thoughts?

While im sure the current players would listen to him. I think he would struggle with moving on the likes of Lamps and Cole. Also im sure JT isnt finished playing yet. Maybe once he has we could offer him a job coaching the youth team or something like that.

http://www.skysports...7598641,00.html

Thoughts?

One day definitely and I'd support it all day long. At the moment I'm quite happy with RDM to stay on and would also like to see Drogba extend and Lampard, Cole and Essien staying put for the immediate future/playing parts of the game where appropriate ...

Edited March 16, 201214 yr by Fast Eddie

The criticism of Terry 'managing' from the sidelines realy hacked me off. He's a player, but he's also a fan. Who wasn't shouting instructions at the telly during that game?

The timing and choice of RDM's subs was superb.

Like me, Terry probably had his own ideas at the time, but the manager called it.

Nah, eventually he could be given a coaching role then work his way up, but not a player manager. I'd also still get rid of Drogba, Lampard and Cole.

I think Chelsea as a club is too big with too many ego's on and off the pitch to make a player manager work nowadays.

Expectations are sky high, and a player, who albeit bleeds blue doesn't have the experience or the managerial nous to be able to run football matters in the club on and off the pitch.

Go trough the learning process, and hopefully he'll work his way to Chelsea manager in the future. I know we'd all welcome him. Just bring Lamps along too.