8 minutes ago, JoseBlues said:

I doubt we were ever interested in selling Costa. The Morata rumors were for his back up or 2nd striker.

When that didn't happen, we signed Michy

 

 

 

Morata was rumoured to be 60m, that's alot for a backup striker who might only get 10 seconds. 

I can fully understand why Real got him back at the price they did, it was a bargain. 

Morata was rumoured to be 60m, that's alot for a backup striker who might only get 10 seconds. 
I can fully understand why Real got him back at the price they did, it was a bargain. 

I genuinely think Conte wanted to try his 352 system with Morata. I don't believe we had any inclination to sell Costa. Finally we get a good striker after Drogba and decide to sell him because of one bad half season where everything went wrong? Don't buy it.

10 minutes ago, JoseBlues said:

 

I genuinely think Conte wanted to try his 352 system with Morata. I don't believe we had any inclination to sell Costa. Finally we get a good striker after Drogba and decide to sell him because of one bad half season where everything went wrong? Don't buy it.

 

Michy was Contes first signing in early July because Palace had a bid accepted. The Morata and Lukuka rumours went on all summer after that deal so michy was signed before. 

Your getting it wrong, just my opinion that Morata or Lukuka was going to replace Costa not because Chelsea wanted to sell him but he might of wanted to leave and that's why Madrid left signing Gamiero till later when they knew the deal wasn't going to happen. I could be wrong or right, maybe we will find in 10 years.

In the end Conte could of given Costa some special loving and changed his mind.

This is overtaking the wrong thread now.

Edited December 27, 20169 yr by Ernie_blue

Fair enough

The more I watch Hazard, the more he reminds me of an Iniesta type player than a Neymar.

So graceful and brilliant to watch.

Rewatched some of Hazard's full-game highlights of this season and it's hard not to appreciate the fact that he does not complain when there are players in the PL who earn 50% more than him, playing considerably worse. If we could secure a deal with him for another five to six years at 250k a week that would be a great deal for us in today's market. And who knows, it might also give us some leeway for a possible Sanchez transfer, who we'd never be able to offer more than Hazard. 

 

I hope Emenalo/Granovskaia will offer him a new deal soon.

2 minutes ago, JoseBlues said:

Fair enough

Sorry wasn't being rude, just didn't want to make anyone read stuff about Costa in here. You could be right, I could be right or we could both be wrong, that's what makes forums.

Just now, JMaher94 said:

The more I watch Hazard, the more he reminds me of an Iniesta type player than a Neymar.

So graceful and brilliant to watch.

 

He is better than Iniesta in my opinion. He has more skill and scores more. It's fair to say that Neymar and Messi are the only players who are better than Eden, but that's in a much softer environment.

Just now, PythonLu said:

 

He is better than Iniesta in my opinion. He has more skill and scores more. It's fair to say that Neymar and Messi are the only players who are better than Eden, but that's in a much softer environment.

Iniesta in his prime was the best midfielder in the world and in the top 3 ever. 

Hazard is only just about better than him now. I don't think Neymar is better than Hazard, he just like Hazard last season has had a pretty dross 2016.

12 hours ago, Ernie_blue said:

Morata was rumoured to be 60m, that's alot for a backup striker who might only get 10 seconds. 

I can fully understand why Real got him back at the price they did, it was a bargain. 

I think it was pretty much confirmed we bid 60£ million for him actually. When that didn't work out we bid close to that for Lukaku as well so i definitely think Contes original plan was to use a two-striker formation. Probably the 4-2-4 that was talked about so much in the summer and that we started the season with. I remember Oscar saying quite late in pre season that, that was the formation they had been practising and drilling every day at the training ground.

 

2 minutes ago, JMaher94 said:

The more I watch Hazard, the more he reminds me of an Iniesta type player than a Neymar.

So graceful and brilliant to watch.

His brilliant to watch, I love it when he stands with the ball and no one will close him down because he can just knock it left and right with ease and make you look a plonker. 

Also in the premier league he is constantly hacked down and it don't knock him. I would like to see the best in La Liga put up with that every week and without a winter break.

1 minute ago, JMaher94 said:

Iniesta in his prime was the best midfielder in the world and in the top 3 ever. 

Hazard is only just about better than him now. I don't think Neymar is better than Hazard, he just like Hazard last season has had a pretty dross 2016.

Not really into "this player vs that player" discussions :) They usually lead nowhere.

I am just glad we have Hazard. In my opinion (and it's just an opinion), extending his contract should be as high on our priorities list as getting a new defender.

3 minutes ago, JMaher94 said:

Iniesta in his prime was the best midfielder in the world and in the top 3 ever. 

Hazard is only just about better than him now. I don't think Neymar is better than Hazard, he just like Hazard last season has had a pretty dross 2016.

Iniesta always reminds me of that game when we was so badly robbed at the Bridge.

1 hour ago, Ernie_blue said:

What sort of a dreamworld do you live in? Do you know Hazard personally? It's not about being a drama queen. In the future Real Madrid might not even want Hazard, Hazard might not even want to leave and its all hypothetical scenarios.

Haha if only football worked out how you see it, you tell a player he is staying and you get a pay rise and that will be like that. Most likely an unhappy player.

If Madrid comes calling and Hazard decides he wants to leave then he will most likely leave, that is football. It happened with Bale because he wanted to leave. Man Utd offered more money for Bale but he wanted to go to Madrid. Why keep a player who wants to leave and chances are Hazard could play like last year and you lose value in that player.

If Hazard wanted to leave and Chelsea got a good deal it will happen.

I believe Chelsea would of let Costa go if they managed to get a replacement, they was linked with Morata all summer then Lukuka, unless you are playing with 2 forwards I don't think a 60m forward was sitting on the bench. Once Athletico knew the deal wasn't happening they signed Gameiro. Just my opinion and I could be completely wrong.

Who said the same applies to every player? I am talking about Hazard, he is known to be loyal and Chelsea have treated him very well, he is a fan favourite and Roman loves him, there is no chance we sell unless as I said we get a ridiculous offer.

Hazard is not someone who has ever shown he is desperate to play for Real Madrid and Chelsea are not a club who sell their best players, you live in a dream world if you think if Hazard wants to leave then Chelsea will sell him. 

 

Just now, pacquiao said:

Who said the same applies to every player? I am talking about Hazard, he is known to be loyal and Chelsea have treated him very well, he is a fan favourite and Roman loves him, there is no chance we sell unless as I said we get a ridiculous offer.

Hazard is not someone who has ever shown he is desperate to play for Real Madrid and Chelsea are not a club who sell their best players, you live in a dream world if you think if Hazard wants to leave then Chelsea will sell him. 

 

Yeah, Real are known for ridiculous offers. It wouldn't surprise me if they offered 120-130 for him. Who else could realistically replace Ronaldo? It will probably come with the usual "Hazard wants Real move" or "Hazard close to fulfilling his Real dream" nonsense by the likes of Marca and AS. It will be important for us to remain calm and regard it as what it is - made up tosh.

Also, I am confident our board and RA will figure that no money in the world will do us more good than keeping Eden. 

1 minute ago, pacquiao said:

Who said the same applies to every player? I am talking about Hazard, he is known to be loyal and Chelsea have treated him very well, he is a fan favourite and Roman loves him, there is no chance we sell unless as I said we get a ridiculous offer.

Hazard is not someone who has ever shown he is desperate to play for Real Madrid and Chelsea are not a club who sell their best players, you live in a dream world if you think if Hazard wants to leave then Chelsea will sell him. 

 

If Hazard wanted to leave and Real Madrid was willing to pay the money he will leave, its simples. Always happened in football and always will, there's an endless list of top footballers in the past.

You don't know Hazard at all, only the player who plays on a football pitch. It's not about being Loyal, a fan favourite or how much Roman rubs his back. If Hazard said to Roman I have given this club how many years, won trophies etc. I fancy a career change at the best club in the world in a different league, culture etc. If the club get the right money it will happen, I would be more disappointed if he decided to go to PSG and that pointless league.

How does a player show he is desperate to play for another club? In every interview they talk about other clubs, no one is that stupid.

1 minute ago, PythonLu said:

Yeah, Real are known for ridiculous offers. It wouldn't surprise me if they offered 120-130 for him. Who else could realistically replace Ronaldo? It will probably come with the usual "Hazard wants Real move" or "Hazard close to fulfilling his Real dream" nonsense by the likes of Marca and AS. It will be important for us to remain calm and regard it as what it is - made up tosh.

Also, I am confident our board and RA will figure that no money in the world will do us more good than keeping Eden. 

So if Hazard wanted to leave like Bale, Ronaldo, Figo etc then it's worthwhile keeping a player who wants to leave?

liverpool had suarez, mu had cronaldo, arsenal had henry but we didn't have anyone like that during that era so when hazard signed for us, I was like FINALLY!!!

 

congrats on the 50th goals and more to come.. 

8 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

So if Hazard wanted to leave like Bale, Ronaldo, Figo etc then it's worthwhile keeping a player who wants to leave?

Emotions are never permanent. You see, heads can be turned and they want to go one week, but if you show them that they are wanted and needed then opinions can change. Be honest with yourself, how often were you seduced by something and then later realised it was wrong?

Point being - they might succeed in turning his head for some time, maybe a few weeks, but that by no means proves that he will never want to play for us again and only focus on getting the move done. Ribery, Lewandowski, Aguero, there are numerous examples when Real was successfully put in their place. 

You appear a bit resigned - a bit like you are trying to mentally prepare for his departure. I hope my view on this does not upset you any more.

Edited December 27, 20169 yr by PythonLu

3 minutes ago, PythonLu said:

Emotions are never permanent. You see, heads can be turned and they want to go one week, but if you show them that are wanted and needed opinions can change. Be honest with yourself, how often were you seduced by something and then later realised it was wrong?

Point being - they might succeed in turning his head for some time, maybe a few weeks, but that by no means proves that he will never want to play for us again and only focus on getting the move done. Ribery, Lewandowski, Aguero, there are numerous examples when Real was successfully put in their place. 

You appear a bit resigned - a bit like you are trying to mentally prepare for his departure. I hope my view on this does not upset you any more.

Oh no I fully agree with you. I am just talking with regards if Hazard did want a move. At the end of the day I don't think Chelsea would stop him if they got the money they wanted, like Spurs.

It doesn't make Chelsea any less of a club, this is football and players sometimes want to move including the best and the Robbie Savages of this world.

Utd got another year out of Ronaldo before they promised him his dream move. Did Liverpool do the same with Suarez?

At the end of the day none of us know Hazard and he might have no desire to ever leave Chelsea but I was just talking from the view of if Hazard did approach the club and said he would like the deal go through.

There's always a risk if Chelsea refused his transfer he would perform like last year and his value goes down.

This is all pointless talk really because he is staying forever ;)

33 minutes ago, PythonLu said:

Yeah, Real are known for ridiculous offers. It wouldn't surprise me if they offered 120-130 for him. Who else could realistically replace Ronaldo? It will probably come with the usual "Hazard wants Real move" or "Hazard close to fulfilling his Real dream" nonsense by the likes of Marca and AS. It will be important for us to remain calm and regard it as what it is - made up tosh.

Also, I am confident our board and RA will figure that no money in the world will do us more good than keeping Eden. 

I don't think 120-130m will even tempt us, something like Varane and Bale for Hazard would be the ridiculous offer that would tempt us

34 minutes ago, Ernie_blue said:

If Hazard wanted to leave and Real Madrid was willing to pay the money he will leave, its simples. Always happened in football and always will, there's an endless list of top footballers in the past.

You don't know Hazard at all, only the player who plays on a football pitch. It's not about being Loyal, a fan favourite or how much Roman rubs his back. If Hazard said to Roman I have given this club how many years, won trophies etc. I fancy a career change at the best club in the world in a different league, culture etc. If the club get the right money it will happen, I would be more disappointed if he decided to go to PSG and that pointless league.

How does a player show he is desperate to play for another club? In every interview they talk about other clubs, no one is that stupid.

That's the thing the money Chelsea will demand for Hazarr will no doubt be something ridiculous like £150-200m which Real Madrid obviously won't pay.

If it was as simple as you make out then Chelsea would have signed Koulibaly in the summer he wanted to come here but Napoli said no, you are mistaken in thinking because contracts mean nothing to some clubs the same applies to every club, because fact is it doesn't, teams who don't need the money don't need to sell their best players while they have years left on their contracts.

 

11 minutes ago, pacquiao said:

That's the thing the money Chelsea will demand for Hazarr will no doubt be something ridiculous like £150-200m which Real Madrid obviously won't pay.

If it was as simple as you make out then Chelsea would have signed Koulibaly in the summer he wanted to come here but Napoli said no, you are mistaken in thinking because contracts mean nothing to some clubs the same applies to every club, because fact is it doesn't, teams who don't need the money don't need to sell their best players while they have years left on their contracts.

 

Your missing the point. It's not even about if a club needs the money or not. If Hazard asks to leave and Chelsea get the money they want he leaves, how many times have I had to say it happens all the time. 

Regarding the Napoli defender who knows the truth? Like I have said all along if the club get the money they want for the player.

Chelsea won't ask for 150m, your being ridiculous and biased in your views. It's a big risk to keep a player who asked to leave whos performances could drop and so does his value.

If Hazard asks to leave and the club get the money they want it happens. 

Hazard will not leave I said it last season when everyone wanted him gone and I will say it again guy is not a drama Queen

3 minutes ago, Brutos said:

Hazard will not leave I said it last season when everyone wanted him gone and I will say it again guy is not a drama Queen

 

I dont see the relevance in saying he is not a drama queen. If Real Madrid or Barcelona really want one of your players its very hard for that player to say no. I dont know many players who turn down the chance to play for Madrid or Barcelona, thats football thats how it is. If Madrid come in for Hazard and he wants to go can we blame him? its like the pinnacle of a players career to play for one of the those 2 clubs. Add the fact that Zidane is Hazards idol and he currently manages Real Madrid just adds to the appeal.