Danilo by himself said that we wanted him, but he choice them. Probably higher salary and we can't agree for the fee with Real. Candreva was linked in the winter, but who knows if we really wanted him. And he obviously is a 4 or eve a 5th choice of our manager. Cause the board failed with the others. And how we can know if Conte or Emanalo wanted Oxlade ? Chamberland is kinda like Moses, and we all see Conte like such players. And even if Candreva play 1-2-3 matches as a rwb, he is not a wing-back. Not even a good alternative. If once you are successful (Moses), that doesn't mean your next try for changing player position will be successful. Candreva is too slow for a rwb. Not good enough. But the board doesn't even want us to spend the money wetake from selling player, from the winter till now.

Lmao you have to be a troll

9 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

Lmao you have to be a troll

Well £25m for a 30 year old winger not wanted by a second rate Italian team then included me in the troll group...

Edited August 19, 20178 yr by doctorblue

29 minutes ago, doctorblue said:

Well £25m for a 30 year old winger not wanted by a second rate Italian team then included me in the troll group...

Yeah, thats not the point we were arguing. I dont think its a good buy either, far from it. But this is clearly someone Cobte wants

10 minutes ago, Xfaxtor said:

Yeah, thats not the point we were arguing. I dont think its a good buy either, far from it. But this is clearly someone Cobte wants

Of course it is, anyone thinking otherwise is an idiot. 

There are many idiots, on both sides. Many sides have idiots. 

Edited August 19, 20178 yr by TheChelsRVA

42 minutes ago, TheChelsRVA said:

There are many idiots, on both sides. Many sides have idiots. 

Idiotically, idiots are represented on both sides and their idiocy is quite idiotic....what are we talking about ? 

I think you're all massively underestimating how good Candreva actually is.

15 minutes ago, DonAntonio said:

Idiotically, idiots are represented on both sides and their idiocy is quite idiotic....what are we talking about ? 

Not sure anymore but it's trendy to be irrational so I thought I'd hop on board 

34 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think you're all massively underestimating how good Candreva actually is.

I remember him being one of the key players for Conte at the Euros until he got injured.

56 minutes ago, timetowaste said:

I think you're all massively underestimating how good Candreva actually is.

Yeah didn't he get the golden boot in 1863?

I'd take him, we need depth, Conte has worked with him and Conte likes him. 
Age is just a number, Conte proved that with Pirlo
P.S Not saying Candreva is as good as Pirlo...

I just don't get why on earth we need a bang average 30 year old winger from an average Serie A side. From what I've heard from Serie A fans, he's a headless chicken who makes awful decisions and will cross the ball to absolutely no one in the box and on his best day, he's decent. What exactly does he offer that Musonda/Boga can't offer? I'm so confused. How exactly does this signing comply with Conte's recent "building for the future" comments? I mean, if we were signing a 30 year old who happened to be world class, I don't think anyone would mind. But this looks like a useless deal to me. 

For all of Conte's qualities, he seems to be hell bent on certain weird decisions as well. Look at how Madrid have done business since 2014. They haven't signed any player above 25. Matter of fact, I don't think they've signed a player who wasn't young since they signed 27 year old Modric. Now compare all of that to signing 30 year old Candreva from 7th placed Inter Milan.

Can't even have an extended period of peace of mind from Chelsea, can we?

25 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

I just don't get why on earth we need a bang average 30 year old winger from an average Serie A side. From what I've heard from Serie A fans, he's a headless chicken who makes awful decisions and will cross the ball to absolutely no one in the box and on his best day, he's decent. What exactly does he offer that Musonda/Boga can't offer? I'm so confused. How exactly does this signing comply with Conte's recent "building for the future" comments? I mean, if we were signing a 30 year old who happened to be world class, I don't think anyone would mind. But this looks like a useless deal to me. 

For all of Conte's qualities, he seems to be hell bent on certain weird decisions as well. Look at how Madrid have done business since 2014. They haven't signed any player above 25. Matter of fact, I don't think they've signed a player who wasn't young since they signed 27 year old Modric. Now compare all of that to signing 30 year old Candreva from 7th placed Inter Milan.

Can't even have an extended period of peace of mind from Chelsea, can we?

Because Conte wants him. 

Not as a winger, but as a wing-back, not a position suited for Boga/Musonda.

Moreover, you cant build for the future with a sh*t present. Currently if Moses got a long term injury (not unthinkable, look at his last 3 years' injury record) we would be in grave danger. 

Maybe Aina can takeover in 3 years' time, but if Conte thinks Candreva is a decent solution for us, I would go with it.

4 minutes ago, didierforever said:

Because Conte wants him. 

Not as a winger, but as a wing-back, not a position suited for Boga/Musonda.

Moreover, you cant build for the future with a sh*t present. Currently if Moses got a long term injury (not unthinkable, look at his last 3 years' injury record) we would be in grave danger. 

Maybe Aina can takeover in 3 years' time, but if Conte thinks Candreva is a decent solution for us, I would go with it.

And exactly what proof do you have that Conte actually wants him for a wing back spot rather than his natural forward position? Where are you getting that from?

Edited August 20, 20178 yr by Barrettinator

6 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

And exactly what proof do you have that Conte actually wants him for a wing back spot rather than his natural forward position? Where are you getting that from?

The FACT that Candreva started 3 games as a WB in euros for Italy (the last team conte managed) before his injury.

Just now, didierforever said:

The FACT that Candreva started 3 games as a WB in euros for Italy (the last team conte managed) before his injury.

So we're after Candreva AND after Aurier/Cancelo/etc as well? I think not.

Just now, Barrettinator said:

So we're after Candreva AND after Aurier/Cancelo/etc as well? I think not.

Why not? Its late in the window.

We have pissed close to 4 months of doing a simple job: get back-up/upgrade LWB/RWB and CMs. Now it wont be a  surprise if we are after all 3 just to finally get one of them.

I dont know what the priority order of the club is (but I am guessing Aurier will be no.1) but I can imagine us showing interest/having talks with Plan A, B, C, D and E just to make sure we do get someone in by the end of the window.

7 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

So we're after Candreva AND after Aurier/Cancelo/etc as well? I think not.

I literally signed in just to say your a nugget. Poster above has clearly give you the explanation your post craved but you don't want to know you just want to slag conte off. Conte managed Italy before us, he was Italy's starting wingback and played great for them that's why conte wants him. You've been told that but you just want to keep ranting on about it because he's not who you want. Sad man

2 minutes ago, didierforever said:

Why not? Its late in the window.

We have pissed close to 4 months of doing a simple job: get back-up/upgrade LWB/RWB and CMs. Now it wont be a  surprise if we are after all 3 just to finally get one of them.

I dont know what the priority order of the club is (but I am guessing Aurier will be no.1) but I can imagine us showing interest/having talks with Plan A, B, C, D and E just to make sure we do get someone in by the end of the window.

There is no scenario where CFC come out of deadline day having THREE players to play RWBs (Moses/Candreva/Aurier). That's just not happening. Why splash 30 odd mil on Candreva when we can get Cancelo (young, high ceiling, an actual RB) for less? Conte doesn't rate Aina one bit so don't even mention him lol. 

I'm going to try to stay away from transfer stories to the best of my abilities until the window closes. I've done my head in worrying too much about our transfer business this summer and getting disappointed most of the time.

2 minutes ago, I Am Gay 4 Diegod said:

I literally signed in just to say your a nugget. Poster above has clearly give you the explanation your post craved but you don't want to know you just want to slag conte off. Conte managed Italy before us, he was Italy's starting wingback and played great for them that's why conte wants him. You've been told that but you just want to keep ranting on about it because he's not who you want. Sad man

I'm just going to assume you've had a long day.

2 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

There is no scenario where CFC come out of deadline day having THREE players to play RWBs (Moses/Candreva/Aurier). That's just not happening. Why splash 30 odd mil on Candreva when we can get Cancelo (young, high ceiling, an actual RB) for less? Conte doesn't rate Aina one bit so don't even mention him lol. 

I'm going to try to stay away from transfer stories to the best of my abilities until the window closes. I've done my head in worrying too much about our transfer business this summer and getting disappointed most of the time.

I think i specifically wrote "get one of them".

How do you know that Conte does not rate Aina?

1 minute ago, didierforever said:

I think i specifically wrote "get one of them".

How do you know that Conte does not rate Aina?

I think Aina got even less playing time than RLC last season. We almost ran Moses into the ground last season and he was clearly burnt out towards the end of the season but Aina never got a look in. Conte even preferred to play Pedro there ahead of Aina. That's how you know.

28 minutes ago, Barrettinator said:

I think Aina got even less playing time than RLC last season. We almost ran Moses into the ground last season and he was clearly burnt out towards the end of the season but Aina never got a look in. Conte even preferred to play Pedro there ahead of Aina. That's how you know.

Aina was 19 years old.

We played a match a week for most of the season which meant not much chopping and changing AT ALL. People were giving the same reason for Michy that Conte did not rate him and yada yada yadda. Yet, Michy was the person who led our line for the first game. That should be telling in itself that game time in a season with no CL and a very early league cup exit should hardly be a criteria, AT ALL.

Moses was unavailable for a complete of 2 games last season.

So thats how I DONT know.

1 minute ago, didierforever said:

Aina was 19 years old.

We played a match a week for most of the season which meant not much chopping and changing AT ALL. People were giving the same reason for Michy that Conte did not rate him and yada yada yadda. Yet, Michy was the person who led our line for the first game. That should be telling in itself that game time in a season with no CL and a very early league cup exit should hardly be a criteria, AT ALL.

Moses was unavailable for a complete of 2 games last season.

So thats how I DONT know.

Aina's age has absolutely nothing to do with his talent level. Wasn't Rashford 18 when he broke out at United? Or Shaw at Southampton? Or even Mbappe at Monaco? That's even going too far. But anyway, you get the point. Talent is talent, age means absolutely nothing if you actually rate the player enough to give him a chance.

Michy played because Morata's fitness level is behind the rest of the squad. Don't kid yourself. Michy will be riding the bench every time Morata is fit and rested this season. We played in the league cup and the FA Cup too, you know. And even got to the FA Cup final. 

The point isn't about how available Moses was. As I pointed out earlier, Moses was burnt out towards the end of the season. It was clear to everyone that his form had dropped compared to the first half of the season and understandably so as he was playing in a very tasking position for the first time and playing it week in week out. Aina could have gotten a shout here and there. Aina had ZERO minutes in the PL last season. Personally, I don't really rate him that highly either tbh. I think Tomori is a better talent and looks more confident. Just pointing out to you that Conte doesn't rate him. And apparently, most PL teams don't rate him either. We sent 5 players on loan to PL teams and sold 2 more, no one came knocking for Aina. I don't think he has a future at Chelsea.