3 hours ago, petre ispirescu said:

I agree. Not the best player, but not a donkey either. If this board can find a left winger that can actually produce goals and assists, my belief is a front line of Jackson supported by Palmer (right wing), Joao Pedro (no. 10), new left winger can look very good under the right manager and in a season without European football and plenty of rest in between matches and more time on the training pitch.

Add a very good partner next to Caicedo and two competent and solid center backs, and this team can only be transformed with 4 news moves.

Unfortunately I can't trust this incompetent board to finally wake up and take the right decisions.

I wanted that Argie at Strasbourg over Emegha to replace Jackson and the lad tore his ACL I believe.

2 hours ago, Sexyfootball said:

Let's really piss him off and loan them Delap LOL

I think you are wrong. Historicaly Germans usually like big, White, Blue-eyed, blond boys.

On 01/05/2026 at 05:19, markpitts said:

We don’t need 3 CFs though, it’s a waste of resources. Unless your CF gets injured, he will start all games. No PL has 3 CFs bar us. We just need Pedro + 1 other. With no European football, we actually need a smaller squad.

So you're saying we should NOT be bringing David Datro Fofana and Deivid Washington back?

On 30/04/2026 at 02:06, Sexyfootball said:

Jackson is very sellable if BlueCo don't get too greedy and price him out of the market, like they did last summer. Highly unlikely they will want him back in the first team squad. On the plus side they only paid £32m for him, he's on relatively low wages, and we've already had a sizeable £14.3m loan fee from Bayern. If we can sell him for £45-50m then Nico goes down as a "successful" signing for me. Book and Actual profit, and 30 goals in his two seasons. Not too shabby at all ...

Jackson and Madueke are imo two of our most successful signings recently. Two crazy player, 2/3 years later easy profit

18 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Jackson and Madueke are imo two of our most successful signings recently. Two crazy player, 2/3 years later easy profit

They are proof that 'model' works when you sign young players for 35m, not pay 95m for Gittens and Garnacho lol

1 hour ago, SydneyChelsea said:

They are proof that 'model' works when you sign young players for 35m, not pay 95m for Gittens and Garnacho lol

Nor sure we can judge Gittens and Garnacho right now. We need to wait till at least 2/3 more seasons, if we can get something close to what we paid, it is fine.

3 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Nor sure we can judge Gittens and Garnacho right now. We need to wait till at least 2/3 more seasons, if we can get something close to what we paid, it is fine.

In your dreams.

1 hour ago, dermott said:

In your dreams.

Both are only 22.

10 minutes ago, Bob stark said:

Both are only 22.

Have you seen anything to suggest we will ever recoup £88m?

5 hours ago, Bob stark said:

Nor sure we can judge Gittens and Garnacho right now. We need to wait till at least 2/3 more seasons, if we can get something close to what we paid, it is fine.

And therein lies the issue; they both need to be playing regularly, and you are right about the 2-3 seasons timeline. Problem is neither of the two will get the constant game time they need to develop here. You then throw in Quenda another LW in the mix, and it’s a big mess.

On 03/05/2026 at 16:25, petre ispirescu said:

I agree. Not the best player, but not a donkey either. If this board can find a left winger that can actually produce goals and assists, my belief is a front line of Jackson supported by Palmer (right wing), Joao Pedro (no. 10), new left winger can look very good under the right manager and in a season without European football and plenty of rest in between matches and more time on the training pitch.

Add a very good partner next to Caicedo and two competent and solid center backs, and this team can only be transformed with 4 news moves.

Unfortunately I can't trust this incompetent board to finally wake up and take the right decisions.

You also believe in flying pigs, the easter bunny and peace in the middle east.... What you believe is irrelevent. We have already seen Wacko here for 2 years. he is rubbish

12 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

You also believe in flying pigs, the easter bunny and peace in the middle east.... What you believe is irrelevent. We have already seen Wacko here for 2 years. he is rubbish

He has, as you say, been rubbish in the two years he has been with us. However Maureen aside, are any of the following players going to be keeping him out of the team / matchday squad > Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens ? If not its likely we will be seeing his name on the matchday team sheet.

I can see it now when he is reintroduced,

Nico " im really looking forward to working with Callum and the rest of the staff. When McFarlane calls you dont turn him down "

Edited May 5May 5 by OTL

1 hour ago, OTL said:

He has, as you say, been rubbish in the two years he has been with us. However Maureen aside, are any of the following players going to be keeping him out of the team / matchday squad > Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens ? If not its likely we will be seeing his name on the matchday team sheet.

I can see it now when he is reintroduced,

Nico " im really looking forward to working with Callum and the rest of the staff. When McFarlane calls you dont turn him down "

Just so we are clear -

1) you admit he has been rubbish and is not good enough...

2) and yet your strategy is to bring back a player we have already deemed not good enough, got rid of, and replaced with Joao Pedro.

lol... And people criticize our sporting directors!

14 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Just so we are clear -

1) you admit he has been rubbish and is not good enough...

2) and yet your strategy is to bring back a player we have already deemed not good enough, got rid of, and replaced with Joao Pedro.

lol... And people criticize our sporting directors!

sorry you have misunderstood

1. He has, as you say, been rubbish in the two years he has been with us. - This means you have said it and i am not disagreeing.

2. I think you are talking about someone else's strategy. I dont have a strategy, i am simply posing the question. who of these four players are likely to be ahead of him in the squad selection list for any given match day?

   For the avoidance of doubt Garnacho Guiu Delap & Gittens.

I think our sporting directors are incompetent i assume you agree?

Maureen who you often mention makes an excellent cuppa. again i assume you agree?

54 minutes ago, OTL said:

sorry you have misunderstood

1. He has, as you say, been rubbish in the two years he has been with us. - This means you have said it and i am not disagreeing.

2. I think you are talking about someone else's strategy. I dont have a strategy, i am simply posing the question. who of these four players are likely to be ahead of him in the squad selection list for any given match day?

   For the avoidance of doubt Garnacho Guiu Delap & Gittens.

I think our sporting directors are incompetent i assume you agree?

Maureen who you often mention makes an excellent cuppa. again i assume you agree?

Linking Jackson to the fate of Garnacho, Guiu, Delap or Gittens is pointless. 2 of those (Garnacho and Gittens) play in different positions, 1 is a youngster (guiu) we purchased for 5mill Euro and who has hardly played at all, and the other (Delap) is adapting to his first season at Chelsea with a smidgen over only 1000 premier league minutes - About 11 games worth....

Jackson has been here for 2 seasons , and has played. And has been rubbish. He was rightly carted off and replaced by a better player (Joao Pedro).

Now, whether or not Guiu or Delap will flourish and make it is debatable, but whatever happens to them, has no impact on Jackson being good enough to play for us.

If you are answering that Jackson should replace Guiu or Delap in the squad, then you are asking the wrong question.

The only question needed is this. In the 2 seasons he played for us, has Jackson demonstrably proven to be good enough to play for Chelsea? We all know the answer...so the the rest is irrelevent.

16 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

Linking Jackson to the fate of Garnacho, Guiu, Delap or Gittens is pointless. 2 of those (Garnacho and Gittens) play in different positions, 1 is a youngster (guiu) we purchased for 5mill Euro and who has hardly played at all, and the other (Delap) is adapting to his first season at Chelsea with a smidgen over only 1000 premier league minutes - About 11 games worth....

Jackson has been here for 2 seasons , and has played. And has been rubbish. He was rightly carted off and replaced by a better player (Joao Pedro).

Now, whether or not Guiu or Delap will flourish and make it is debatable, but whatever happens to them, has no impact on Jackson being good enough to play for us.

If you are answering that Jackson should replace Guiu or Delap in the squad, then you are asking the wrong question.

The only question needed is this. In the 2 seasons he played for us, has Jackson demonstrably proven to be good enough to play for Chelsea? We all know the answer...so the the rest is irrelevent.

I beg to differ the only question i am asking is if there is a matchday squad to be selected of say 20 players and we have a squad of say 24 players

are Garnacho Guiu Delap and Gittens likely to be selected ahead of Mr Jackson, in said squad specific positions are not totally relevant whereas i would suggest that Nico is likely to affect the game to a greater extent than the other four - which may justify his inclusion, if you disagree and you are entitled to then please educate me as to why? I have seen little with these four amigos that would lead me to believe that they can affect a game in the near future. Is there anything you can enlighten me to, maybe a special characteristic which one or all of these four possess?

They appear to be one legged men applying for the job of Tarzan ( Peter Cook and Dudley Moore) in comparison to a fella who has contributed 12-14 goals in each of the two seasons he has graced us with.

Edited May 5May 5 by OTL

52 minutes ago, OTL said:

I beg to differ the only question i am asking is if there is a matchday squad to be selected of say 20 players and we have a squad of say 24 players

are Garnacho Guiu Delap and Gittens likely to be selected ahead of Mr Jackson, in said squad specific positions are not totally relevant whereas i would suggest that Nico is likely to affect the game to a greater extent than the other four - which may justify his inclusion, if you disagree and you are entitled to then please educate me as to why? I have seen little with these four amigos that would lead me to believe that they can affect a game in the near future. Is there anything you can enlighten me to, maybe a special characteristic which one or all of these four possess?

They appear to be one legged men applying for the job of Tarzan ( Peter Cook and Dudley Moore) in comparison to a fella who has contributed 12-14 goals in each of the two seasons he has graced us with.

If affecting the game more than any of those 4 is the barometer, then we have multiple options. Choose another back up goalkeeper. Chose Jesse derry. Choose Shim Mhueka. Choose Reggie Walsh. Chose Maureen. Chose Life.

Those players all might offer something that shows they have the ability to be a chelsea player at some point in the future... Jackson on the other hand has already proven he doesnt.

If your answer is Nicolas Jackson. You are asking the wrong question.

Edited May 5May 5 by nonotnowjim

2 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

If affecting the game more than any of those 4 is the barometer, then we have multiple options. Choose another back up goalkeeper. Chose Jesse derry. Choose Shim Mhueka. Choose Reggie Walsh. Chose Maureen. Chose Life.

Those players all might offer something that shows they have the ability to be a chelsea player at some point in the future... Jackson on the other hand has already proven he doesnt.

If your answer is Nicolas Jackson. You are asking the wrong question.

All bold suggestions noted thanks, now turning to my original question , what is it that would cause Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens to be selected before Jackson.? Im keen to know because if my suspicions are correct he will, and i know its painful for you, get the nod over these four if an attacking player is required. Albeit on the bench in the first instance.

Pick any one of these four and highlight the characteristic that im failing to grasp, with specifics. Cant be simpler, can it?

Edited May 5May 5 by OTL

17 minutes ago, OTL said:

All bold suggestions noted thanks, now turning to my original question , what is it that would cause Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens to be selected before Jackson.? Im keen to know because if my suspicions are correct he will, and i know its painful for you, get the nod over these four if an attacking player is required. Albeit on the bench in the first instance.

Pick any one of these four and highlight the characteristic that im failing to grasp, with specifics. Cant be simpler, can it?

1) because they are all Chelsea players - and Jackson isnt. We have already got rid of him.

2) because 2 of them play in different positions, a position where we dont have anyone else (LW)

Why are you focusing on those 4 players? All very odd. You ignore every other player we have available to us, or who we might purchase in the future - as a way to try and justify shoe horning a player, who has demonstrably, and consistently over 2 seasons, shown himself not to be good enough.

The cartel is strong in this one....

If your answer is to chose Nicolas Jackson over these 4 players that you single out, then you are asking the wrong question.

3 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

1) because they are all Chelsea players - and Jackson isnt. We have already got rid of him.

2) because 2 of them play in different positions, a position where we dont have anyone else (LW)

Why are you focusing on those 4 players? All very odd. You ignore every other player we have available to us, or who we might purchase in the future - as a way to try and justify shoe horning a player, who has demonstrably, and consistently over 2 seasons, shown himself not to be good enough.

The cartel is strong in this one....

If your answer is to chose Nicolas Jackson over these 4 players that you single out, then you are asking the wrong question.

1.Alas he is still our player and is due to return in the summer.

2.Exact position isnt that crucial in a matchday squad we dont deploy 9 of comparable positions but we do have attacking players , defensive players and so on.

what im asking is ( and you know really your just teasing ) if we are looking for an attacking option to enter the field of play and we had a choice of Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens which one ( or all) would be in front of Jackson in the selection process and why?

For the avoidance of doubt the answer is not Nico Jackson. im hoping you are going to enlighten me as to the identity of this player ( Clue: you have a choice of up to four. )

Edited May 5May 5 by OTL

5 minutes ago, OTL said:

1.Alas he is still our player and is due to return in the summer.

2.Exact position isnt that crucial in a matchday squad we dont deploy 9 of comparable positions but we do have attacking players , defensive players and so on.

what im asking is ( and you know really your just teasing ) if we are looking for an attacking option to enter the field of play and we had a choice of Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens which one ( or all) would be in front of Jackson in the selection process and why?

For the avoidance of doubt the answer is not Nico Jackson. im hoping you are going to enlighten me as to the identity of this player ( Clue: you have a choice of up to four. )

Very well argued mate 👍

20 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:

1) because they are all Chelsea players - and Jackson isnt. We have already got rid of him.

2) because 2 of them play in different positions, a position where we dont have anyone else (LW)

Why are you focusing on those 4 players? All very odd. You ignore every other player we have available to us, or who we might purchase in the future - as a way to try and justify shoe horning a player, who has demonstrably, and consistently over 2 seasons, shown himself not to be good enough.

The cartel is strong in this one....

If your answer is to chose Nicolas Jackson over these 4 players that you single out, then you are asking the wrong question.

Jim. You keep going on about some imaginary question that you claim everyone is asking. . While I would have wanted anyone but Jacko last season, there were long periods when he clearly was the only and best option. . So, that would have been my answer at the time to the question ( who is the player at the current time, best for us to play ) .

unfortunately it was true, and your continuing failure to provide an alternative, I think, demonstrated it. I hated his attitude, but he was clearly better than Delap.

You in Vietnam Nam Mate??

On 04/05/2026 at 02:46, SydneyChelsea said:

They are proof that 'model' works when you sign young players for 35m, not pay 95m for Gittens and Garnacho lol

Hey Syd, wrong thread I know, but do you know why the club borrowed from Ares at such high rates of interest ? I thought only those with dodgy credit ratings were forced to go down that route?

Olympic Lyonnais got into a big mess after their loan from Ares racked up insane amounts of interest on the loan

4 hours ago, nonotnowjim said:

You also believe in flying pigs, the easter bunny and peace in the middle east.... What you believe is irrelevent. We have already seen Wacko here for 2 years. he is rubbish

My prediction is based on our current financial situation, not really on my prefence.

They will look at the squad and probably think "Ok, we already have Jackson in our ranks, no need to spend another fortune on another striker. We can play him there, Joao Pedro in behind him and let's move to another areas on the pitch where we have a problem".

11 hours ago, OTL said:

1.Alas he is still our player and is due to return in the summer.

2.Exact position isnt that crucial in a matchday squad we dont deploy 9 of comparable positions but we do have attacking players , defensive players and so on.

what im asking is ( and you know really your just teasing ) if we are looking for an attacking option to enter the field of play and we had a choice of Garnacho Guiu Delap Gittens which one ( or all) would be in front of Jackson in the selection process and why?

For the avoidance of doubt the answer is not Nico Jackson. im hoping you are going to enlighten me as to the identity of this player ( Clue: you have a choice of up to four. )

We don't just have a choice of 4 though. You are the one limiting to those players for some strange reason.

For the avoidance of doubt, I would choose all 4 of them over Jackson. I would also choose any other youth player we have over Jackson.

I would prefer to give a bench spot to someone who might at some stage prove good enough to play for chelsea, rather than give it to a player who has ALREADY proven, over 2 seasons playing consistently, that he is not good enough.