April 29Apr 29 The solution is to ship ALL 3 of them out because none of them are good enough and find better back-up for Pedro.
April 29Apr 29 Well yeah, if the alternative forward lineup on the table was Pedro, Ekitiké, Barcola, and Alvarez or something then we'd happily let Jackson go.The problem is that both Delap and Guiu are significantly worse than him, we apparently have no money, and the people hired to make the decisions have a history of signing worse players than the ones we already have (at a huge loss).
April 29Apr 29 42 minutes ago, bisright1 said:Yeah fair enough, this season in the PL and CL, Gusto has one goal every 827 minutes whilst Delap/Guiu combined have one goal every 706 minutes. Prolific. Jackson for the last 3 seasons, 1 goal every 115 minutes this season, last season 224 minutes and season before every 200 minutes.But I reckon you're right. Delap and Guiu are just about to turn a corner and really really smash em in next season. Lets ship Jacko out and put our faith in these two.I don't care about whatever stats you promote. You could tell me a stat that points to Wacko scoring a goal every 6 seconds for all I care - but the truth is, you have seen Jackson play. We all have. Many times. You have watched him with your own two eyes. You have seen him get red cards. You have seen him miss sitter after sitter. You have seen him be petulant. You have seen him get caught offside 5000 times. You have seen him sulk on the bench. You have seen him be anonymous on the pitch. Watch the games. Stats are not needed to see how utterly rubbish he is. I will pass on the Delap and Guiu points, because this is not their thread... But whatever the merits (or not) of those 2 players, If you think Jackson is the answer... then you are asking the wrong question.
April 29Apr 29 13 minutes ago, Nibs said:The solution is to ship ALL 3 of them out because none of them are good enough and find better back-up for Pedro.Correct. Guiu: £5-15millJackson: £20-30millDelap: £25-35millCombined: £50-80millEmega, Pedro + another striker in that price range, and we in a half decent space.
April 29Apr 29 6 minutes ago, PloKoon13 said:Well yeah, if the alternative forward lineup on the table was Pedro, Ekitiké, Barcola, and Alvarez or something then we'd happily let Jackson go.The problem is that both Delap and Guiu are significantly worse than him, we apparently have no money, and the people hired to make the decisions have a history of signing worse players than the ones we already have (at a huge loss).sorry - but this is nonsense logic. If we are saying that we shouldnt sell a player due to a fear of the SDs replacing with trash, then we would never transfer anyone again. Sanchez in goal - oh thats ok, they are not good enough, but we should keep him because he is better than Jorgensen, and we cant trust the SDs to replace. Gittens/Garnacho - oh, they are not good enough, but keep them, because they are better than George or Mudryk, and and we cant trust the SDs to replaceBaddy/Tosin - Oh, they are awful, but we should keep them, because they are better than Disasi, and we cant trust the Sds to replace themThe idea that we should keep and play Jackson, just because we dont have ekitike, barcola or Alverez, or because we dont trust the SDs is silly. He has demonstrably proven, time and time again, that he is not good enough for Chelsea. Full stop. He has no place here.
April 29Apr 29 Maybe its because your answer to replace Jackson is with Emegha, a player who looks more prone to flop in the Premier League than Marko Marin.
April 29Apr 29 20 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:Maybe its because your answer to replace Jackson is with Emegha, a player who looks more prone to flop in the Premier League than Marko Marin.I am not sure who you are talking/responding to.But I am not sure anyone is advocating to replace Jackson with Emegha. In fact, Jackson is not even in our squad, and therefore does not need to be replaced in any way shape or form. If anything, we have ALREADY replaced Jackson with Joao Pedro. If anything, it is Emegha to replace Guiu, who will almost certainly go on loan or be sold, and then there is a question of if we replace Delap - which I think is likely.
April 29Apr 29 3 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:I am not sure who you are talking/responding to.But I am not sure anyone is advocating to replace Jackson with Emegha. In fact, Jackson is not even in our squad, and therefore does not need to be replaced in any way shape or form. If anything, we have ALREADY replaced Jackson with Joao Pedro.If anything, it is Emegha to replace Guiu, who will almost certainly go on loan or be sold, and then there is a question of if we replace Delap - which I think is likely.Guiu, Delap, and Emegha aren’t better than Jackson no matter how much you try to spin it.
April 29Apr 29 23 minutes ago, Sconnie Blue said:Guiu, Delap, and Emegha aren’t better than Jackson no matter how much you try to spin it.Joao Pedro is...aka the guy we have already replaced Jackson with.
April 29Apr 29 32 minutes ago, nonotnowjim said:Joao Pedro is...aka the guy we have already replaced Jackson with.Yes. Pedro is our striker next year. Jackson is the best option on the table to be our backup. That's the argument. Because our board are not going to sign anyone decent. The only alternatives that our useless board will come up with are not better than Jackson. Note: Yes I would not advocate selling Sanchez. Because that would mean our keepers next year will be Penders and Jorgensen. I would rather we have Sanchez in the squad in that instance.
April 29Apr 29 So...let me get this straight. Your strategy is:a) buy a player - in this case Jackson.b) try him for 2 seasons, where he proves to be a liability.c) decide he is clearly not good enough, and go all out to sign a new player (Joao Pedro) to replace himd) having decided he is not good enough, then try to get rid of him.e) loan him out - which see's him miss almost a full season of football - with him hardly playing, and when he does, getting a few sporadic appearances as a back up player in a farmers leaguef) having failed to play regularly in that farmers league, then decide that maybe a miracle has happened, and actually, maybe he IS good enough after all - so we decide to bring him back....... I mean, come on dude. There are long shots, and then there are long shots..... with a "strategy" like the one you are advocating set out above, it is little wonder Winstanley and Stewart remain in employment.....edit: and then you have the brazen audacity to advocate for Sanchez to be kept. I am sorry, but a poster who advocates for Jackson and Sanchez being good enough to play for us, seriously lacks credibility. Edited April 29Apr 29 by nonotnowjim
April 29Apr 29 1 hour ago, nonotnowjim said:So...let me get this straight. Your strategy is:a) buy a player - in this case Jackson.b) try him for 2 seasons, where he proves to be a liability.c) decide he is clearly not good enough, and go all out to sign a new player (Joao Pedro) to replace himd) having decided he is not good enough, then try to get rid of him.e) loan him out - which see's him miss almost a full season of football - with him hardly playing, and when he does, getting a few sporadic appearances as a back up player in a farmers leaguef) having failed to play regularly in that farmers league, then decide that maybe a miracle has happened, and actually, maybe he IS good enough after all - so we decide to bring him back....... I mean, come on dude. There are long shots, and then there are long shots..... with a "strategy" like the one you are advocating set out above, it is little wonder Winstanley and Stewart remain in employment.....edit: and then you have the brazen audacity to advocate for Sanchez to be kept. I am sorry, but a poster who advocates for Jackson and Sanchez being good enough to play for us, seriously lacks credibility.I've said since day one, Jackson would be an ideal back up striker. Nothing I've seen has convinced me that isn't the case. You seem to think this ownership are planning to sign a new keeper. They aren't. They are just going to bring Penders in.You seem to labour under this impression that the ownership are going to buy great players. News flash, we are the type of club who should be grateful to have Sanchez and Jackson in the squad. We are going to be fighting relegation in a few years time.If I am in charge, I wouldn't make any of these decisions. Unfortunately I am not. These idiots are. So I am just talking about the least worst outcome. Whereas you seem to be living in 2015 when we used to buy good players. Jackson is the second best striker we've had at the club in the last 5 years whether you like it or not. Edited April 29Apr 29 by bisright1
April 29Apr 29 With JPedro we have a player able to play as a 9 or behind the striker.Delap and Guiu have had limited opportunities in the latter case , and have failed to make any real impact in any appearances this season. They are probably deemed to be unsuitable for the 1st team.Emegha is a bit enigmatic feisty and in my estimation medium quality I think our SDs will hope he develops but it's far from certain. I think he will get a squad place and have an unremarkable time next season.Panichelli ain't coming, he should be but SDs know best. Might make the grade but I suspect he would struggle in Premier League.Satpaev I think he's Strasbourg bound. If I was a gambling man I would throw him into the 1st team squad and see how he fairs, he got more desire than most and likes a shot from distance.We aren't getting any of the top strikers that appear available in the summer it's all b.s we haven't got the funds.Which leaves us with Nico Jackson, our SDs will try to sell him and will fail again and I expect him to join the 1st team squad ...Like it or not he will be back. Edited April 29Apr 29 by OTL
April 29Apr 29 2 minutes ago, OTL said:With JPedro we have a player able to play as a 9 or behind the striker.Delap and Guiu have had limited opportunities in the latter case , and have failed to make any real impact or a n any appearances this season. They are probably deemed to be unsuitable for the 1st team.Emegha is a bit enigmatic feisty and in my estimation medium quality I think our SDs will hope he develops but it's far from certain. I think he will get a squad place and have an unremarkable time next season.Panichelli ain't coming, he should be but DDs know best. Might make the grade but I suspect he will struggle in Premier League.Satpaev I think he's Strasbourg bound. If I was a gambling man I would throw him into the 1st team squad and see how he fairs, he got more desire than most and likes a shot from distance.We aren't getting any of the top strikers that appear available in the summer it's all b.s we haven't got the funds.Which leaves us with Nico Jackson, our SDs will try to sell him and will fail again and I expect him to join the 1st team squad ...Like it or not he will be back.JP has had good games for us -- some were even great performances, but they were all playing as #9. I keep hearing that he can play behind a striker, but I don't see it. He lacks mobility for that role, but I would concede if I see him doing well there. I haven't.Jackson is just twice the footballer Delap is. Someone said that Delap's second touch is a tackle, and it is not far from the truth. I honestly don't understand what Chelsea saw in him when playing for Ipswich; his (few) strengths weren't a match for elite football.A very young #9 is very very tricky to pull off; they usually end up lacking minutes to develop or are truly wonderkids (Endrik) which aren't that attainable at "investment pricing."
April 29Apr 29 Jackson is very sellable if BlueCo don't get too greedy and price him out of the market, like they did last summer. Highly unlikely they will want him back in the first team squad. On the plus side they only paid £32m for him, he's on relatively low wages, and we've already had a sizeable £14.3m loan fee from Bayern. If we can sell him for £45-50m then Nico goes down as a "successful" signing for me. Book and Actual profit, and 30 goals in his two seasons. Not too shabby at all ...
April 29Apr 29 1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:Jackson is very sellable if BlueCo don't get too greedy and price him out of the market, like they did last summer. Highly unlikely they will want him back in the first team squad. On the plus side they only paid £32m for him, he's on relatively low wages, and we've already had a sizeable £14.3m loan fee from Bayern. If we can sell him for £45-50m then Nico goes down as a "successful" signing for me. Book and Actual profit, and 30 goals in his two seasons. Not too shabby at all ...His book value is £22m. Minus the loan fee.
April 30Apr 30 On 29/04/2026 at 17:34, nonotnowjim said:So...let me get this straight. Your strategy is:a) buy a player - in this case Jackson.b) try him for 2 seasons, where he proves to be a liability.c) decide he is clearly not good enough, and go all out to sign a new player (Joao Pedro) to replace himd) having decided he is not good enough, then try to get rid of him.e) loan him out - which see's him miss almost a full season of football - with him hardly playing, and when he does, getting a few sporadic appearances as a back up player in a farmers leaguef) having failed to play regularly in that farmers league, then decide that maybe a miracle has happened, and actually, maybe he IS good enough after all - so we decide to bring him back....... I mean, come on dude. There are long shots, and then there are long shots..... with a "strategy" like the one you are advocating set out above, it is little wonder Winstanley and Stewart remain in employment.....edit: and then you have the brazen audacity to advocate for Sanchez to be kept. I am sorry, but a poster who advocates for Jackson and Sanchez being good enough to play for us, seriously lacks credibility.I reckon that some bloke called Harry Kane might be the reason Jacko didn't get much playing time.Anyway, Delap isn't a better replacement, not in a football sense, but he has a far better attitude.. We keep buying players who aren't " good enough" , it's a f**king continuing nightmare ridiculous transfer strategy.I heard Jacko is in Vietnam on holiday, look out for some bloke tripping over his own feet and blaming some poor local fella for it. Edited April 30Apr 30 by The Rising Sun Information
May 1May 1 5 hours ago, The Rising Sun said:I reckon that some bloke called Harry Kane might be the reason Jacko didn't get much playing time.Anyway, Delap isn't a better replacement, not in a football sense, but he has a far better attitude.. We keep buying players who aren't " good enough" , it's a f**king continuing nightmare ridiculous transfer strategy.I heard Jacko is in Vietnam on holiday, look out for some bloke tripping over his own feet and blaming some poor local fella for it.Delap has not replaced Jackson though. J Pedro has. We have already replaced Jackson. I heard the same - that Jacko was looking forward to his trip to Vietnam once the season ends. Unfortunatly, he was wide of the mark, and ended up in North Korea.... no surprise I guess.
May 1May 1 1 hour ago, Sexyfootball said:Athletic reporting that we want £60m for Jackson.Best of luck with that BlueCo !MU paid £76m for Šeško, Arsenal £67m for Gyökeres. It's a funny old world.
May 1May 1 48 minutes ago, dermott said:MU paid £76m for Šeško, Arsenal £67m for Gyökeres. It's a funny old world.Both players were coming off decent seasons, and were not branded damaged goods which Jackson is. We are not getting £50m for him in a limited market. The only interest in him is from Italy, and we know they love a loan deal. The best we might get is £40m.
May 1May 1 On 29/04/2026 at 15:09, nonotnowjim said:Correct.Guiu: £5-15millJackson: £20-30millDelap: £25-35millCombined: £50-80millEmega, Pedro + another striker in that price range, and we in a half decent space.We don’t need 3 CFs though, it’s a waste of resources. Unless your CF gets injured, he will start all games. No PL has 3 CFs bar us. We just need Pedro + 1 other. With no European football, we actually need a smaller squad.
May 1May 1 1 hour ago, markpitts said:We don’t need 3 CFs though, it’s a waste of resources. Unless your CF gets injured, he will start all games. No PL has 3 CFs bar us. We just need Pedro + 1 other. With no European football, we actually need a smaller squad.Job done then....unless we think that we can get an upgrade on Pedro as starting 9.
May 1May 1 On 29/04/2026 at 16:09, nonotnowjim said:Correct.Guiu: £5-15millJackson: £20-30millDelap: £25-35millCombined: £50-80millEmega, Pedro + another striker in that price range, and we in a half decent space.Sorry to be that guy, but those prices would only give us about £10-15 million of profit so you’d lose three players without really giving yourself any leeway toward purchasing an upgrade. Agree in theory, though
May 1May 1 1 hour ago, markpitts said:Both players were coming off decent seasons, and were not branded damaged goods which Jackson is. We are not getting £50m for him in a limited market. The only interest in him is from Italy, and we know they love a loan deal. The best we might get is £40m.I wouldn't be surprised if he goes back to Bayern for another year on half the fee or less. He'll be okay for them to use to occupy space when the games are done and Kane needs to save energy.
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